Giantess, Fembot, Wedgies, Bimboification. Whatever your fantasy is, Custom Video Creator Miss Whitney Morgan will fulfill it. We talk the wide world of kink, buying 54 pies and her most interesting requests. Then, we unveil a new Candle of the Month and it’s White Christmas vs. Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer as we countdown the Top 5 Christmas Songs of All Time.
Miss Whitney Morgan: 01:28
Pointless: 30:33
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Top 5 Christmas Songs: 52:18
Interview with Kink Custom Video Creator Miss Whitney Morgan
Nick VinZant 0:00
Nick, welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick VinZant Coming up in this episode, custom videos and Christmas songs,
Miss Whitney Morgan 0:20
for example, the giant test you want to have a shrinking you want to have eating. You want to have feet stepping on them. You want to have, you know, breast mothering or ass mothering. 2400 for three models, two camera men and 5054, pies, plus cleanup. I think it is crazy if any girl does not want to have their feet worship like that is top tier. Let me sit back you massage and worship my feet all damn day long.
Nick VinZant 0:52
I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance subscribe, leave us a rating or a review. We really appreciate. It really helps us out. If you're a new listener, welcome to the show. If you're a long time listener, thank you so much for all of your support. So I want to get right to our first guest, because whether it's wedgies, giantess, Bimbo, ification, whatever you're into she's made a video for it. This is custom video creator, Miss Whitney Morgan. When I look at this from an outside perspective, I had no idea a lot of this stuff existed. Surprise.
Are you surprised by it?
Miss Whitney Morgan 1:39
I'm surprised by the fact that I find out something new and interesting. Still, to this day, even got some new customs last night that I'm like, I How is this? Okay? This is a thing, alright? So I'm amazed by being able to still find something new and interesting. Do
Nick VinZant 2:01
they all have anything similar when we talk about like giantess or wedgies or bad breath Bimbo, focation, these kind of things? Is there something that seems to the
Miss Whitney Morgan 2:11
one thing that I would say does tie it all together is the psychological aspect of it, where most fetishes, not all, you know, all them, they are developed during like puberty kind of stage. So when you're kind of becoming aware of your sexuality, something here, something there, sparked it. They stuck it, stuck in the back of your head, and from there on out for the rest of your life, either you already knew I like feet or, you know, you watched 50 foot woman when you were pre teen, and now all of a sudden, you are really into Amazonian women when you start, you know, yeah, progressing into your sexuality, that seems to be the biggest aspect of it. I mean, I have had fans tell me all the way back to remembering what they were like five years old that something hit them. One example was his teacher made him carry her shoes back innocently after recess, and he got caught have a little sniff. And instead of her going, don't do that, she was like, it's okay to be curious. And was very, you know, motherly towards him, and didn't humiliate him for it. And from there on out, he developed a foot fetish.
Nick VinZant 3:27
It seems like it's more. It's not really about the thing, necessarily. It's about the psychological aspect related to that thing. And
Miss Whitney Morgan 3:37
it is, it is weird, but it happens more to men than it does women.
Nick VinZant 3:43
I don't ever want to sound judgmental about any of these things, but I'm fascinated as to the why. Like, why did that? What is it about some of these? So let's kind of get into them. Um, no, no, particular order, giantess and shrinking.
Miss Whitney Morgan 4:00
The shrinking aspect is one thing where I use some sort of magical power or ray gun to shrink them down as kind of a power control thing, where I am, I'm controlling them. I'm overpowering them. I am, well, we can't reuse really use the word force in our content anymore, but I'm forcing them to become something that I can toy with and make mine like, you know, a little pet or a little tiny man to eat. Toss around, throw in my mouth. Stomp on, squish.
Nick VinZant 4:41
It's about control. A lot
Miss Whitney Morgan 4:42
of it's about, yes, about control. For more of the the mean giant tests, um, there's also gentle giant tests, where you're kind to them, you're loving to them. Um, it's almost like a maternal thing, where you're, you're playing with them. Want them to be your little pet forever, or you are eating them so they them become part of you. I have one custom client that he calls every single freckle on my chest, a tiny guy that I've eaten. So every single time I consume one, another freckle pops up on my chest as a trophy, basically freezing
Nick VinZant 5:22
or getting stuck in places, because I was looking, like, at some of your videos, just the thumbnails and like, it shows you getting stuck in, like a window sill or getting frozen. Like, what
Miss Whitney Morgan 5:32
are those ones? Those are kind of controlling for the viewer, because you are in a situation where you are very vulnerable, and they can do anything they want to you.
Nick VinZant 5:44
Oh, that makes a little bit sense. Is there certain things they want you to, like, Okay, you get, you get stuck in certain situations, or is it? How does that work? I mean,
Miss Whitney Morgan 5:53
think of the mean, step brother, I'm stuck. So now you're stuck in a situation where that that your step brother could do anything he wants to. So it doesn't really matter too much as to where they're stuck. Um, like, I've been stuck in Windows. I've been stuck under the bed. The window seems to be a really popular one, because I can, you can get angles of both my front side hanging out of the window, or either way. I mean, most of them, my front side has been hanging out of the window, the back sides hanging inside the house still. So that gives access points to both, whereas with the stuck under the bed, stuff you're really only seeing like the bottom half, same with like washing machine and dryers or other two popular spots to get stuck. Dishwasher too. Was another one,
Nick VinZant 6:43
the getting stuck. Now, did that kind of go mainstream a little bit? Because I feel like a lot of it's
Miss Whitney Morgan 6:49
in porn now, because it's a good lead into, Oh, she's stuck. Do
Nick VinZant 6:55
some of these kind of more custom, more niche requests, do they make it to mainstream? Or do some of them? No, they kind of just stay where
Miss Whitney Morgan 7:05
they are. I mean, foot fetish has become extremely popular in mainstream. They are. You see a lot more big name studios, uh, really focused, not focusing, but throwing feet into certain sexual positions just to show them off. You see a lot of girls not flat footed. They're pointing their toes a lot or showing off their arches or souls and whatnot. So I do see a lot of that getting put into there as well. That kind of number one I did, that's the number one fetish I see thrown into porn a lot,
Nick VinZant 7:40
they're kind of catering to it without specifically catering to it
Miss Whitney Morgan 7:43
exactly. And I mean, that's a lot of things for like fetish content as well. You don't want to you might want to have one main focus point, but you want to pepper in little things as well to kind of cater to everybody in that fetish again, for example, the giant test. You want to have a shrinking, you want to have eating you want to have feet stepping on them. You want to have, you know, breast mothering or ass mothering. When
Nick VinZant 8:06
we talk, I know we mentioned it briefly, but just to follow up a little bit, when we talk about the vore that's eating things, yeah, are they wanting you to eat something specific, like, do they? Is it them?
Miss Whitney Morgan 8:16
You eat them?
Nick VinZant 8:17
Oh, I didn't know that.
Miss Whitney Morgan 8:19
It's like point of view. Like, if I was holding a little tiny guy right here, right now and then having him literally on my hand, typically shop, I shoot him with a GoPro. Oh, where? Yeah, I would be eating them. Or I do have use, like, little tiny figurines and whatnot, if it's a kind of a fly on the wall, third person view,
Nick VinZant 8:38
oh, I didn't realize it was always a person. I thought it was just like food or something I do
Miss Whitney Morgan 8:42
have, and that's more of the eating kind of mukbang mouth fetish kind of a thing like I do have a custom to shoot later today that wants me to eat oatmeal, very grossly, loud, open mouth, showing it my teeth, that kind of burping with it, that kind of more rudely. I guess what you wouldn't really do in real life be rude and open mouthed and making a mess. But, yeah, but more eating food stuff is there are various food fetishes and eating fetishes, and mukbang is the one where you have everything, and you're more of a sampling. And then there's space stuffing where you just throwing it all in,
Nick VinZant 9:29
I guess, if you're going to want, I know what we were talking about, a little bit either. Like, if you want to see something eaten in a gross way, like, oatmeal has to be up there on that list of like, oh, I don't really want to see somebody eat that
Miss Whitney Morgan 9:40
pudding's another good one too. You want to drip down. Oh,
Nick VinZant 9:44
cottage cheese. Oh,
Miss Whitney Morgan 9:46
I didn't think of that one.
Nick VinZant 9:47
Oh, like, I don't want to see people eat that normally, be honest. But whatever, that's your thing.
Unknown Speaker 9:54
Do your thing.
Nick VinZant 9:55
Whatever floats your boat. Um,
Miss Whitney Morgan 9:58
bimbo.
Nick VinZant 9:59
Vocation. I have no idea what that
Miss Whitney Morgan 10:03
is, um, kind of more of your ditzy valley girl kind of aspect to it, where you're basically like a mindless sex doll. So the BIM of vocation typically goes from being a tomboy, more dominant self, assuring female, where you know you wouldn't want to dress in all pink, have giant tits and Dick sucking lips, to the point where you slowly have your mind melt, and you become a mindless sex doll, um,
Nick VinZant 10:47
robots and Fembot that seems to be picking up.
Miss Whitney Morgan 10:52
That's also another control thing, because typically the Yeah, I do a lot of robot fetish, it's really hard to do because it's monotonous. So it feels like you're feels like you're doing the same thing over and over again, and you shouldn't. You should be switching it up. But it's a lot of repetition as the FEM bot malfunctions, and a lot of times it'll start as like a normal person, an Android, maybe your maid service, and she malfunctions in some way, shape or form, and reverts to a sex bot. So again, another power control where the female, as the femme bot, is there to please and service the male
Nick VinZant 11:37
wedgies,
Miss Whitney Morgan 11:39
which is just fine. I think a lot of that reverts back to the guys being bullied when they were younger. I do have a constant custom client that has me and other girls dress up as school bullies, and then we beat him, beat him up, POV and pretend to pour his lunch on top of them, and inevitably, wedging him. So I always have like, Man panties, tighty whiteies, and we yank him over the screen to show like we're wedging the viewer. A lot of so a lot of that goes back to being bullied. And I think maybe that, if they were bullied back in the day, watching two girls do it to each other is maybe a comfort thing.
Nick VinZant 12:28
Is there generally, kind of what I would consider to be like mainstream sex involved in these there's like, No, it's not really,
Miss Whitney Morgan 12:38
I personally not do anything that would be considered mainstream sex in my content. I mean, I don't even really get naked in the vast majority of my content. That's
Nick VinZant 12:51
interesting to me in the sense that, like, it's something that's sexual, but not sexual. A good way of putting it. Is there a Have you ever had any insight into, like, why somebody would be attracted to a non sexually attracted to a non sexual thing.
Miss Whitney Morgan 13:06
For instance, I do have some foot fetish fans that do not want to see even the legs they want, like leggings all the way down to your ankles, so it focuses more on the feet, and when that is your certain thing, that you, you Coven, you objectify, and you, I don't want to say, require it to come, but it's up there in something that this is, this is all you want to think and focus on in order to make yourself Come, that you don't want the distractions from other things.
Nick VinZant 13:42
That's got to be hard. I feel like is this. I feel like this would be a difficult thing for people to kind of exist with in judgmental society.
Miss Whitney Morgan 13:52
Most certainly, I will say, Thanks to that, though, because that means most fetish contact is not as pirated as stereotypical vanilla porn, because they do have more of a sense of loyalty to those of us that want to learn, want to listen, that are open and understanding about it. You know, it almost makes them feel like they're cheating.
Nick VinZant 14:17
Yeah. Are they like? What do people say to you when they request one of these, first
Miss Whitney Morgan 14:23
always starts off with, do you shoot custom videos and no other detail.
Nick VinZant 14:30
They don't. They don't want the judgment.
Miss Whitney Morgan 14:31
They don't want the judgment. And then it'll be a very vague email after that, when I say, give me the information. And then I normally get up. Well, this might sound really weird, but like, Honey, it doesn't. I said the ones that I reject are the ones that I say are weird. I
Nick VinZant 14:51
want to get into some of the ones that you reject, right? Because that's gotta be really, really fascinating. Um, bad breath. I don't get that one. They just want you to have a. Yeah,
Miss Whitney Morgan 15:00
it's a girlfriend experience, kind of thing, like a dominant well, it can go either way, whether it's like a nice just Good morning babe, kind of thing, rolling around in bed. So more of that's more of a girlfriend experience. There are a lot of those that are very normal day to day, things like hair, washing, shaving, that are more of a you know, a lot of cam models get more of these are more of a connection with a girl for their day to day life. So it's virtual girlfriend kind of an experience. But
Nick VinZant 15:37
are you? Are you interested in any of the things that you do? Like, is it your jam in any way? Without you don't have to get any specifics. But Are any of these your jams? Oh, yeah,
Miss Whitney Morgan 15:50
I definitely have a big handful of them. Like, I love tickling. Is a big fetish of mine. I love being a lead. Take a lead where I get to or tick Aler, where I'm the one tickling somebody. It's just a new year. You have to smile when you're being tickled. It's like a forced adrenaline and euphoric, kind of a rush and boost serotonin, and you're getting some exercise in it. Um, I think it is crazy, if any girl does not want to have their feet worship like that is top tier. Let me sit back. You massage and worship my feet all damn day long. So that just blows my mind. When I get a lot of girls guys emailing me, saying, Help. I don't know what to do. My girlfriend isn't into this. Do you have any advice? That's definitely a big thing, choking I am out into some breath play and asphyxiation, receiving and giving I do, like both switch with bondage as well. I mean, I guess some fairly vanilla stuff is spanking. How
Nick VinZant 16:55
much, like, I would say, for, like, a custom video, like, how much do you charge for one?
Miss Whitney Morgan 16:59
I mean, it really varies base base rate, no camera person, no special effects, no extra talent, just me, myself and I tripod. Basic edits is $10 a minute, and then it goes up from there, doubles in price. If you want a another model, um, I charge for a cameraman. If you want someone charge, obviously for a bondage rigor, if you want me tied up for anything,
Nick VinZant 17:26
what was like the most expensive one you ever did? 2400
Miss Whitney Morgan 17:29
for three models, two cameramen and 5054, pies, plus cleanup.
Nick VinZant 17:43
What were you doing with the pies? Oh, just putting them in each other's faces.
Miss Whitney Morgan 17:48
Yeah, each other's faces, tits, asses. I wanted to be the ultimate Pie in the Face queen and I had two other co stars that we basically a pie fight, but very specifically with the pies, very specific brand of pies as well that have, I guess, the best quality of cream ratio And sticking ability they want it specified where you slam the pie, you twist it so the crust comes off of the aluminum, and then pull it and then wants to watch it slowly drip off. But yeah, 54 pies was one hell of a mess, and so careful the next day, because we did do it on trash day.
Nick VinZant 18:41
Why 54 like, why not 55 or 50?
Miss Whitney Morgan 18:45
Uh, well, they came in a case, well, six, no, they came in cases of six.
Nick VinZant 18:51
Oh, okay, that makes sense, right? Like, so you get so many, yeah, so 54
Miss Whitney Morgan 18:54
or 60 I, yeah, I had to buy them from, like, a catering service company.
Nick VinZant 19:00
What did you tell them? Like, I just need 54 pies. Don't ask me any questions.
Miss Whitney Morgan 19:04
Fourth time going in there and buying and each time it got went up in the amount of pies. So I told them I was a photographer and we were doing a trash the dress shoot. That was the first thing I could come up with on the fly. So that's what
Nick VinZant 19:21
always fascinates me about these kind of things. Is like, but how do you do this in the real world without something like, Well, you gotta get 54 pies. That's a lot of pies. What was the brand of pie? Do you remember the brand of pie chef Pierre,
Miss Whitney Morgan 19:32
which, for my understanding, is the generic mass production quality of Sara Lee pies.
Nick VinZant 19:43
Do you get the sense like, are a lot of these things, your content and others like it is the only out for these people, because I couldn't imagine that this person has a relationship where he's regularly like, hitting his significant other with pies.
Miss Whitney Morgan 19:59
No. Yeah, most of them reach out to us. Again. I get a lot of emails from guys confessing that their girlfriends, wives, partners, are not into what they're into. So seeking talent out like me and others is the one and only way they're able to satiate that fetish. I mean, if there's anything I can recommend to them to try to break the ice with a significant other, I do my absolute very best and hope that they are able to make that connection, to make their life more fruitful. But, you know, some people are just close minded and don't care. I mean, that's kind of an outlandish one. So I could see most women, like, no, absolutely not. But I mean, like little things like tickling and foot worship, face sitting little things. And I'm like, there's a way to make let her at least try and, you know, see if y'all can work on that relationship.
Nick VinZant 20:55
Um, are you ready for some harder slash, listener submitted questions? Sure. Most popular request,
Miss Whitney Morgan 21:01
beaten all variations, beat feet, beat and chastity.
Nick VinZant 21:06
Most interesting request, like, Oh, that was, ooh, not judgmental, just like, Oh, that was I. That was an interesting request, besides the pie one, I feel like it's gonna be pretty hard to beat the pie one. I
Miss Whitney Morgan 21:20
have one where he wants to be transformed into a horse.
Nick VinZant 21:26
And that's it, like he doesn't want anything to be done to him once he's a horse. He just wants to be transformed for
Miss Whitney Morgan 21:31
dramatic effect. Oh,
Unknown Speaker 21:32
okay,
Miss Whitney Morgan 21:33
I am a this is it's interesting because I don't quite understand the psychological aspect of it, and it is something that I've never received from anyone else. The content from a previous one does sell, but I never get any feedback. I want feedback. I want more information. I want to know what's going on. That is the like he has sent me some like artist renderings of, you know the the progression, but he is a innocent male coming to hang out with me, a cowgirl, farm girl on the farm. And I tell him he's never leaving by this I magically start to transform him into one of my ponies, my horse by milking him. And with each stroke, he be more and more and more like my pony, my horse until he drops to all fours, and slowly his body changes. And upon coming, he is nothing but a brainless animal to me. So he stays forever on my farm.
Nick VinZant 22:50
It's so specific,
Miss Whitney Morgan 22:52
yeah, that is one that was very specific, but has always stuck out is, I want to know why
Nick VinZant 22:59
is does he view the being turned into a horse as a punishment or as a reward? A little bit
Miss Whitney Morgan 23:06
of both, because he likes humiliation and degradation, degradation as he turns into it. But then that's kind of a dominance thing is, well, now you're my pony. Now I own you. Now you're never leaving. You're fine. Which a lot of the femdom stuff, a lot of the femdom stuff kind of really goes into that where I'm going to humiliate you, I'm going to put you in chastity, I'm going to peg you, I'm going to basically dehumanize you. But in the end of everything, you're my pet. You're my slave. I covet you, I keep you. So it's a privilege to be, you know, have to serve me or be my entertainment. This
Nick VinZant 23:44
isn't directly one of our questions, but it hints at it like, what is somebody then think when they, like the electrician comes to your house, or like a plumber comes to your house and like, Oh, what is all this?
Miss Whitney Morgan 23:54
So I have a very openly Christian exterminator, and he let me know this information like, I don't know if he had any idea, but was talking about how his underage at the moment, son, like he was distraught, had been peering out of the window and watching porn from the neighbor's house because the neighbor left their windows open, and they seem obsessed with it. And now he is of age, and he works for his dad's company, so he comes here is where I typically store lights, rocks. I have this entire wall set up for like a BDSM Gunton look. I have a five foot teddy bear in a corner. I have a giant bunny head in my closet, a Teletubby comes to. That are sticking out, because I have so much in there, it's pouring out. Um, so I'm sorry I asked that they don't bother in this room. My husband, one day, let them kind of go willy nilly through the house on their own. They came in here. They still come every three months. It's a lot more quick, and we do the job and get the out. So there has yet to have to be a serious explanation. I am lucky that my husband does most of the plumbing and electrician work. Because the last time the electrician was here, I was editing adult content, and he definitely heard some of it, because I didn't realize he was in the other room. I thought he was out of his truck, whoops. And then told me, Don't worry, I'll do the the work with the wire, with the power live, because you are obviously doing something right now, and I don't want to interrupt you, so he knows. And here's a real good one. I hadn't even, it hadn't even been too I'm not even, actually, I don't think it's been that was an entire month living here and I had lightning strike my house. I was not home at the time and had started a small fire. Neighbors didn't even know one of them yet. I think we just exchanged numbers. That was it. That was all neighbors called the fire department. They broke in through one of the bathroom windows, which is very small, and since, quote, unquote, the little guy in so I'm wondering why all of these because I have five firemen standing around me. It's pouring rain at this point. I'm freaking out. You know, luckily, nothing was damaged. I had a million calls from all the neighbors they were coming over. I have five firefighters, including the little one, all around me, asking me if I'm going to be okay. Do you want us to stay here with you until your husband gets home? And humiliating the little guy who was yeah, probably five feet tall, and pull thin so they're making fun of him. Um, they cleared the house. There are muddy footprints in all of the rooms with fucked up shit, and I didn't realize, like, they didn't just let him in. He opened the door and let other ones in as well.
Nick VinZant 27:38
They all came for a look, huh? I now get
Miss Whitney Morgan 27:41
waves from them because I live two blocks from the fire department, which wonderful. They were here in 30 seconds. So my house was burned down, but I can't
Nick VinZant 27:51
wait. Now they all know exactly who you are. Well,
Miss Whitney Morgan 27:55
purple hair and tattoos, don't really you know, make it blend in.
Nick VinZant 27:59
Is that strange knowing or anything? I don't want to put loaded words in there, right? But like, how do you feel about the idea? Like, you know what people are doing with this stuff? Yeah,
Miss Whitney Morgan 28:11
I'm happy about it. I I don't appreciate getting photos or videos of it, because I know what you're doing. That's cool. You can email me and tell me, Hey, which I used to get a sneeze? Because that was one of the first things you asked about me a few weeks ago. I used to get a sneeze client that would let me know down to the second, what part of the clip was his pop shot. I'm like, You know what? That's actually good knowledge. At first you might feel like, but then when you think about like, well, this is really good information, because now I know specifically what you guys are looking for. So when I get messages back saying, you know, when you did XYZ, that was, that was perfect. I love that. That was the best spot. Oh, I explored everywhere, blah, blah, blah, whatever you know connotation you want to put it in. It helps me make better content in the long run. Because I'm like, oh, okay, I should do more specifically that. That's what you guys like. Let me integrate more of that and not focus on other stuff that you obviously didn't message me about so you don't care about that's pretty much
Nick VinZant 29:15
all the questions we got. Is there anything that we you think that we missed, or anything like that?
Miss Whitney Morgan 29:19
I don't know. Again I shoot everything except
Nick VinZant 29:23
set balloons, except balloons. So when people, if people want to get a hold of you, what's the best way they want to all that kind
Miss Whitney Morgan 29:31
of stuff, lots of ways. I am pretty good with my search engine optimization. So typically, if you Google Miss Whitney Morgan, I pop up at least that better, um, Miss Whitney Morgan. Com, Ms. Whitney Morgan on Twitter, because I'm not allowed to have any more characters than that. Miss Whitney Morgan, 3.0 on Instagram, because y'all know how much they love the entertainment industry. Yeah. I mean, I'm on tick tock till they take it down, I'm on threat. Yes, I'm on blue skies, the new fun thing, but all the kids are using
Nick VinZant 30:04
I want to thank Whitney so much for joining us. If you want to connect with her, we have linked to her on our social media sites. We're Profoundly Pointless on Tiktok, Instagram and YouTube, and we've also included her information in the episode description. And if you want to see some of the things that we talked about, the YouTube version of this episode will be live on December 5 at 12:30pm Pacific. Okay, now let's bring in John Shaw and get to the pointless part of the show. Are you an easy person to get gifts for?
John Shull 30:41
Yeah, I'm pretty easy. I have a lot of interests.
Nick VinZant 30:44
I have reached a stage where I don't really even want anything. The only thing that I really want is for people to get rid of things. That's the gift to me, is that I'll get you a gift, but in return, you have to get rid of three things in the house.
John Shull 31:01
How does that work out for you? Has that ever been working out? Well,
Nick VinZant 31:05
no, it hasn't worked at all. It's just as shocking to me the sheer amount of stuff that you accumulate over a lifetime. Like, what is all this stuff?
John Shull 31:15
I'm gonna take another angle of that. And actually, as I get older, I'm noticing, especially my wife, God, love her. All the stuff that we, quote, unquote, hoard, a lot of it's coming to use. So I can't, really, can't blame her, you know, I can't, you know, it's I looking at it. I may be the hoarder. Actually, I might be the problem in our relationship. Oh, you
Nick VinZant 31:38
keep stuff. I'll get rid of things. So quick. I can't wait to get rid of stuff
John Shull 31:42
like, I know I keep, like, the things that don't matter, like T shirts, clothes. I'll, you know, blue jeans and any of those type of thing. I'll give them away in a heartbeat. Or if they have a rip in them or something, I'll throw them away. But, you know, action figures, video games, books, I keep pretty much every of every one of those that I've that I've ever owned.
Nick VinZant 32:03
It's hard to get rid of a book like you just feel a little bit dumber if you get rid of a book. I
John Shull 32:12
actually feel kind of smarter when I look at my collection and I see some of the books I've read over the past decade.
Nick VinZant 32:19
It's like an achievement. You have to keep it if you actually read a book, you have to keep that book like there's no way I'm getting rid of a book that I actually spent time to read.
John Shull 32:31
All right, well, I do have some shout outs for some very lucky people. Lindsay, Hey, Michael sun, Nick Eric Green, Daniel Warhol, Jordan, lardon, or it could be Laird, and maybe it's not lard
Nick VinZant 32:46
it's probably Laird, and I don't think you want to be called lardon.
John Shull 32:49
Uh, Hussein, Haji, Jocelyn, June, Brett. Dicke, sure, sure. He never, Brett. She never. Got made awful
Nick VinZant 33:01
whatsoever for him. Yeah.
John Shull 33:05
Actually, a great guy. So he, you know, good guy.
Nick VinZant 33:08
Oh, do you know Dickey Brett?
John Shull 33:10
I do. I do know Brett Dicke, I do.
Nick VinZant 33:13
How does he feel about being named Brett Dicke?
John Shull 33:17
He, you know, he's a very if I had to describe Brett in kind of a couple words, I'd say he's a very well put together nice guy, like, he just goes with the flow. Okay,
Nick VinZant 33:29
how often would you have to be made fun of for you to change your name? Like, where you would go in and actually change your name?
John Shull 33:39
I mean, I so I've never been bullied to that extent. So I don't want to talk for people who have, but I don't think any type of bullying or being made fun of would make me change my name. I just don't think, I don't think I would care enough. Oh,
Nick VinZant 33:52
I think that you probably would if I if it came up in every conversation, I would probably consider changing my name.
John Shull 34:00
What bothers me as an adult is people still can't get my name right the spell it. I'm like, It's not that hard. It's five letters.
Nick VinZant 34:09
I mean, if you were just if I didn't know your name and you said my name is John Shaw, I wouldn't know how to spell it.
John Shull 34:17
Well, first I'd probably slur my words, so I probably sound like I'm saying Jim Shaw.
Nick VinZant 34:22
Shaw, yeah, dude, I don't know how to spell Shaw.
John Shull 34:27
I mean, I think I still have you on my phone as Nick Van Zant,
Nick VinZant 34:30
right? You already have my name correctly. My name is really easy. It's VinZant. Vin Zan, and people misspell that all the time. Shawl is a harder name to spell than VinZant, I
John Shull 34:41
think just because you have the at the beginning of mine, anyways, no one cares. Let's see COVID Haddad, Jack bogaris, Leo Armand and Kelly stoby. Appreciate all of you.
Nick VinZant 34:56
Solid, solid. Kelly, female or male. I. Female,
John Shull 35:00
by the looks of her Instagram picture, okay,
Nick VinZant 35:04
okay. Kelly's one of those names that like, oh, that can really go either way. Logan, one of my son's names also can really go either way.
John Shull 35:14
Alright. Well, got some dandies here for you. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. I feel like we have to start. I feel like I had to bring this up, just because, you know, we do talk about current events in a fun way. So as we know, there's if you're the president or president elect, apparently you can pardon anybody, including yourself, and do anything and get away with it. So my question to you would be, if you had a family member that you could pardon, we'll say for a less serious crime. So not murder, you know, armed robbery, sexual assault, but it was like a less crime, right, lesser crime. Would you pardon them if you could?
Nick VinZant 35:49
I think if it was the same kind of circumstances in that, okay, did he really do this, or was it kind of all played up as part of a political strategy, get to the Father through the Son. If it was that kind of circumstances, yeah, I would go ahead and do it. And also, the guy's what, like, 80 and he's the President of the United States, like, what are you gonna do to him?
Unknown Speaker 36:15
Yeah? Like,
Nick VinZant 36:16
if you mean, I'm a big believer of play the hand that you were dealt.
John Shull 36:21
Yeah. I mean, listen, we don't have to get into the current political landscape. I just think, if I have that much power to par I'm pardoned. Just the most random people, like, I'm just gonna be, oh, you fucked a turkey. You're pardoned.
Nick VinZant 36:33
I don't know about that. I feel like that one should stick right. Like, that's the kind of person that probably doesn't need to be back in society. But, I mean, there's some stuff that people that's kind of a crazy idea of pardoning someone, that you're just like, You know what? Never mind. Yeah.
John Shull 36:53
I mean, forget you. No, I know you did this, but you're fine. You're good, you're kind of rich, kind of powerful. At one point, you're good. You're good to go. The
Nick VinZant 37:02
only thing that I have to say in a political sense of that, and we are not a show that goes into political but I will wade into it briefly, whatever your opinion is, you just need to be consistent. You can't look at this side and say that that's wrong and then not apply the same logic to the other side, right? So you you gotta be consistent. Pick your position and then stick with it. Don't change it based on the team that you personally root for.
John Shull 37:30
Speaking of teams is a perfect segue. The past weekend, one of the dumbest, and I've said this privately for a long time, one of the dumbest traditions in college football, and I'll call it a tradition, is when an away team takes down a rival, and we'll use Michigan, Ohio State, as a Just
Nick VinZant 37:52
one second, my son is playing Zelda, and he needs to show me his latest achievement. So Okay, I gotta talk to you about later. This is very important. Okay, good. Oh, you got the hyaline trousers? No, I got dick. Oh, the champions thing. All right, go play. Just
John Shull 38:12
for you that can't see this. This is amazing. Hopefully you are watching live on YouTube right now.
Nick VinZant 38:17
He got, man, he had a big accomplishment. Man, that's a great I know that's a great honor as a father, that your son is excited and all he wants to do is show you something. I don't care what it is, I'm gonna look at it and think it's the greatest thing
John Shull 38:29
in the world. I'm with you. I'm not, I'm not, I'm more power to you. You're a great dad. Good for you. Oh,
Nick VinZant 38:35
thank you. Thank you. Okay, finish your finish your thing.
John Shull 38:38
Anyways. Anyways, when you have, I don't know where I left off, but college football, you have a rival, playing arrivals, playing the away team, wins. It happened between Michigan, Ohio State, and then there was a fight broke out, and then somehow, in the fight the Ohio State, some Ohio State Troopers got some mace and started macing everybody because they were freaked out. And this was that wasn't the only college I mean, it happens. I think it's so I'm going to go on another 10 second ran. I think it's stupid. I think students should not be allowed on any kind of playing surface in college sports, basketballs, arenas, college, you know, football stadiums, that it should be banned. Everything should be banned in terms of flag planting, you know, goal post uprooting. Like, it's just, it's too much
Nick VinZant 39:25
like, I completely disagree. I think that everybody should have to reap what they sow. I think everybody should have to reap what they sow. And I think all these announcers like, Oh, my God, there's a fight. Oh, they're fighting on the field. How terrible. After they just spent the last however many hours slamming their heads into each other. Now it's somehow terrible because they're getting into a fight. I just think all of this is the most hypocritical thing in the world that like, Oh no, let's get all these people together. Let's give them a bunch of beer. Let's encourage them to be all rah, rah rah, support their team and. Then just when it's over, like we should just be able to wipe our hands with it and oh my gosh, this is so terrible, right? Like, it's okay to get everybody all riled up, but then when the consequences come, suddenly everybody's sewing up against it. You don't get one without the other. I mean,
John Shull 40:19
that's not a bad that's not a bad, bad way to put it, or a way to look at it. I just, I don't know it just bothers me, but it bothered me before Michigan, Ohio State, it's always kind of like Vanderbilt beat somebody this year, so they drag the goal post two miles into the into a river outside of Nashville or in Nashville, like that's just, it's just, it's excessive, I mean, excessive sportsmanship sometimes goes to go
Nick VinZant 40:44
too far. But I just think that the sport, the powers that be, so to speak, whether that's the teams themselves, the announcers, the broadcasters, whoever you want to put in there, they completely encourage everybody to support their team, to tune in to watch this violent game, and then when it turns around on them, suddenly they're clutching their pearls like it's one or the other. You don't get to have both. I can't believe people acted like people how awful this is. I mean, the same time all the players are loving 18 to 22 year old kids anyway, so the ones
John Shull 41:19
that are to get maced, all right? And I'd like to talk to that state trooper that just started spraying mace everywhere because he thought one of the players was getting murdered on the field.
Nick VinZant 41:26
He thought a player was getting murdered. I was surprised. It would be encouraging just bring Mason out of time, right? Like, oh, that's getting out of hand. And those aren't exactly like, those aren't exactly the kind of people you're going to win in a fight easily with. Like, I feel bad for those police officers that have to go out there. You're like, you want me to do what you want me to. Hold on. I'm gonna I'm the person that's supposed to separate these five 300 pound giant people from these other five 300 pound giant people. And it's just me. Everybody's getting maced. I'm not even, like, waiting. I'm just walking onto the field Mason, anybody I can see, because you're gonna lose that.
John Shull 42:06
You're just walking people are being cordial, and you're spraying them in the face. If somebody
Nick VinZant 42:10
had a press conference and they're like, Officer statinko, why did you mace everyone and be like, well, it was the Ohio State football team about, oh, okay, all right. Well, that makes sense. Yeah. That
John Shull 42:21
fly great, because, you know, it's flown so well, alright, this has caught my eye, because you know how much of a Dwayne Johnson fan I am. Apparently he is wearing a body suit for the live action Moana film. And it got me thinking,
Nick VinZant 42:45
Wait, is this this one, or is this the next one? Is this the film that's currently out, or the film that's coming up? This
John Shull 42:50
is a live action, not a not a, what do they call it an animated movie? That's the live action. Yeah. But it just got me to think, like, if that guy needs a suit, like a muscle suit, a body suit, we're all fucked like we're it's all over, right?
Nick VinZant 43:06
Imagine how much roids he would have to take to get to that point.
John Shull 43:09
He's never done roids. Oh, right,
Nick VinZant 43:13
right, right. That's what, like, it's just one of those things, like everybody's gonna lie to you and then expect, then get mad when suddenly you call them out about telling the truth. Oh no, I can't believe these players are fighting after we got them all hyped up, told them the other team is the enemy and to attack them, and that this game where reputation was on the line, but no, now they're in a fight. Here's your pearls. Here's watching your pearls.
John Shull 43:42
Here's something I don't know. You know, I dabble in social media from time to time, as we all do, it seems like there's been multiple UFO sightings in the last two weeks. And I know they're probably all bullshit, but it makes me wonder if the aliens are getting ready for an invasion.
Nick VinZant 44:04
I think it tells you, I think that this is a sign of how stressed out and stretched to the limits our society has become here in the United States, like people are losing their minds. Yeah, people, people are going off the deep end, and we're in for it.
John Shull 44:21
I think we're yeah for it. I think the term from both sides, not just one side, is, you know, fuck around and find out. So I guess we see what happens. I
Nick VinZant 44:29
think 2025, is the year of us finding out. We've been fucking around on a lot of things, and I think we're about to find out.
John Shull 44:39
Do you want to, like, join our families together. We can live in one duplex,
Nick VinZant 44:44
no, dude, I don't want to live with your family. You got all your in laws moving in. I'm not dealing with that.
John Shull 44:50
Yeah, that's, that's a whole nother story. Um, that's for another time. Uh, that's pretty much it. I was going to bring up about how Elton John apparently lost his eyesight. But I don't know. I don't know if anyone cares so well.
Nick VinZant 45:03
I mean, Elton John does. I
John Shull 45:04
mean he cares. But
Nick VinZant 45:05
that's going to be tough man to have a sense that whole time, and then you suddenly lose it. Like I know that we don't talk about this a lot, but I'll make this really quick so there. So I was born without a sense of smell. My wife is telling me there's, apparently now some procedures where they're having luck restoring people's senses of smells. That would be insane. Hmm, one day have us like, never have had a sense for 30 plus years of your life. And then one day you have it,
John Shull 45:31
speaking of, are we ready?
Nick VinZant 45:33
Is it that time
Unknown Speaker 45:35
watch?
Nick VinZant 45:41
It's time the outlaw candle connoisseur Rides Again. Candle of the month. Zip up your pull up. Get serious.
John Shull 45:54
This might be the most when you're talking about candles. This might be the most consequential, important candle that you're gonna buy of the entire year, the Christmas time candle. It's important because, you know, we're hosting people you want your house to smell good. It's getting cold in most parts of the country or world, unless you're, of course, like in Australia. So anyway,
Nick VinZant 46:19
no idea. What downtime like? Do you have any idea about, like, the other side of the world, like, what season it is?
Unknown Speaker 46:26
No,
Nick VinZant 46:27
it's, I know it's summer somewhere, but I have no idea, not a
John Shull 46:32
clue. Think it's summer in South America, like, I know Africa, South of the equator. I
Nick VinZant 46:37
don't know southern hemisphere, I assume. Yeah. Anyways,
John Shull 46:41
so the candle of the month this month, probably a candle of probably a top three candle for me of all time. Bold has a great name that's over at Bath and Body Works. It's on sale right now. Go check it out. Get the three wick. It's gonna cost you about 17 bucks, plus shipping. It's only there for the winter, and it's called the perfect Christmas
Unknown Speaker 47:08
Whoa,
Nick VinZant 47:09
that's a bold statement to get it back it up.
John Shull 47:11
So if I had to describe it quickly but efficiently, it starts off as a Christmas tree, so you get a little bit of pine, little bit of, like, starchy pine, like, it doesn't hit you, but it kind of just flows over things. Then you're gonna get some, then you're gonna get some cinnamon after that, you know, maybe, like, like, kind of a sweet smell, like a, like a nutmeg spice, cinnamon spice type smell, and then you're gonna, then it sues off, and it ends with, like, some, I almost want to call it candy, but it's supposed to be like, Marshmallow, and it's just it takes you through like, like, the best parts of Christmas time. Which are, you know, Christmas trees, winter food, sugar, marshmallows, cake or pie, everything.
Nick VinZant 47:58
It's delicious. That's what I was going to say is, it sounds like it takes you through the Christmas journey of preparing for Christmas. Oh, Christmas is kind of here. You're making cookies, you're making the food. And now it's Christmas Day,
John Shull 48:09
and it was, you know, it comes in a red glass, so once you burn through it, you can always, you know, the glass can be reused for, you know, throughout the season, you can put other candles in it, you know, like I just started doing where, literally, I'm taking candle wax. When the candle gets down to a certain point, right? The wax isn't usable anymore because the wick is it's too short, so it won't burn, like that little bit of wax the bottom. So scrape it up. And after you do that, after five or six candles, you have enough to burn for maybe five or six hours. You know, another candle out of that wax. So that's what I've been doing.
Nick VinZant 48:47
So the part of the show, I would like to remind people that John has had sex with a woman he claims at least twice. He has two children. He has known a woman intimately. Has he satisfied or disappointed her most likely one of those. My money's on one. My money's on one more than the
John Shull 49:07
other. Yeah, it's, it's one of those.
Nick VinZant 49:09
It's definitely one of those.
John Shull 49:12
Let me tell you that, you know, it's not always happy in my house. Um, so,
Nick VinZant 49:16
but when you start this candle here, okay, right? When you say it transition smells is that through as it burns through the entire candle, or just as it's burning. So let's say you're gonna light it for an hour. You'll get all three of those smells in the hour. You have to wait for the candle wax to, like, burn down. You get it in segments, or you get it
John Shull 49:37
as it flows. Yeah, no, you get it as a flows, not You're not like it's not going to go through in an hour. But, you know, I was talking to someone probably a month or so ago about candles because, you know, I really think we should copyright this thing, normal cup, copyright this, but whatever candles are, kind of like records, like most records, take you through a story. Through a journey, candles are the same way, okay? And yes, I have at least had you know love twice. That's a fact. So have
Nick VinZant 50:12
you? Have you ever become aroused shopping for candles or looking at candles? Have you ever gotten a slight chub?
John Shull 50:21
No, not at all. But I will tell you that if any of you out there that are listening see me in the wild at a candle store and you come up to me and call me the candle, kind of candle, kind of sewer, I don't know what I would do. I'd probably start crying.
Nick VinZant 50:36
It would probably be the high I would assume that would be a highlight of your life, marriage, children being recognized as the candle connoisseur. What if they asked you for advice? What if they didn't just receive you, but they said, Hey, John, I know you're the candle connoisseur. I mean, I think I should get
John Shull 50:51
I've had people ask me for like I work in in my personal life. They asked me,
Nick VinZant 50:56
it has to be a random has to be a random person. That's John. What do you think about this? Well,
John Shull 51:01
well, send me a DM, send us messages. We're all we're all over social media. Any of your candle quest? I mean, this is important. This important time of year for candles.
Nick VinZant 51:13
Is there anything that is like as runner up as Christmas to Christmas time is the most important time for candles?
John Shull 51:21
I mean, I can't think of anything on top of my head in terms of, like, new ones. But, I mean, I'm a big pine fan, like piney, like Christmas tree, I would try to find something like that. I mean, think about it, right, what is, what is your favorite? Actually, let me go back two steps. There's a candle called Christmas wrapping paper. Can't remember who makes it, but it literally smells like wrapping paper, like on Christmas morning, like, if you were to walk into whatever room the presents were in, and it has like, that paper smell like, that's nostalgia, like, that's, that's, that's a great smell. Cool. Anyways. Alright, I listen for all of you out there. I could talk candles for days. I could have my own podcast about candles.
Nick VinZant 52:08
You can have a candle connoisseur podcast. I don't understand why it's doing stopping you, besides lack of effort. Yeah, that's
John Shull 52:13
what it is. Lack of effort. Lack
Nick VinZant 52:15
of effort. Okay, everything else, understandable.
John Shull 52:18
You ready for our top five gin? I am ready for a top five.
Nick VinZant 52:22
Gin is so gross. Gin is like the worst. The bottles are the least appealing looking. The name is the least appealing. Like, what do you want? Gin? It just reminds me of, like, gin just seems like leftover alcohol. Like, what do you got at the bottom of this trash heap? Well, we call it gin? No.
John Shull 52:42
I mean, I think I'm a I'm a big fan. Obviously, it's one of my top three liquors, and I enjoy it. I enjoy it nice gin over Scotch or whiskey most days.
Nick VinZant 52:55
Okay, alright. Well, that says a lot. Okay, so our top five is the top five Christmas songs. To number five.
John Shull 53:02
So just for the record, I went with the song, not the person who sings it. Oh, I don't so I don't know if that changes anything, but my number five, I went with rocking around the Christmas tree.
Nick VinZant 53:17
Okay, I got no issues with that. I can understand rocking around the Christmas tree. It's a good song I went with last Christmas by wham, last Christmas,
Unknown Speaker 53:31
yeah, okay,
Nick VinZant 53:33
probably the saddest, popular Christmas song, his last Christmas by wham.
John Shull 53:40
I mean, I know it, but I don't know if I could like if I actually know it. You know what? I mean,
Nick VinZant 53:44
it's hard. It's an emotional journey. Thank you, William, sorry. Okay, number four,
John Shull 53:51
Holly Jolly Christmas. Holly Jolly Christmas. It's the best time of the year. Now go to my house, grab a beer, sit down and let's
Unknown Speaker 54:02
cheer, cheer.
John Shull 54:04
See, there you go. So yeah, Holly Jolly Christmas, my number four. I
Nick VinZant 54:09
don't know if I've ever listened to this full song, but I like this song. It's a good song, White Christmas, Bing Crosby. Bing Crosby, that they like. That's an iconic voice
John Shull 54:23
Christmas Yeah, I would. I've actually had this debate with people, and I don't know if I'm educated enough to have this debate, but I think him, Frank Sinatra and Elvis Presley are the reasons why Christmas music is what it is today.
Nick VinZant 54:40
I think you could throw in Nat King Cole on that,
Speaker 1 54:43
yeah, for sure. Uh,
Nick VinZant 54:47
Mariah Carey. I would say Mariah Carey has probably been more influential towards Christmas music than any other artist.
John Shull 54:55
I think if I didn't know Mariah Carey, you know, like, not like nowhere, but if, like, I wasn't. Yes, like, with her, like, in terms of seeing her as an artist and things, maybe I'd agree with that, but I don't know why, but she just rubs me in the wrong way. And I don't know why.
Nick VinZant 55:08
I think because you and I are of the generation that remembers that she was pretty out there for a while, like, she had some personal views issues that really kind of like, wow, it's good. You're very talented, because otherwise, what number are we on?
John Shull 55:25
My number three, which is Felice Navidad,
Nick VinZant 55:30
think that's too low.
John Shull 55:31
Feliz Navidad,
Nick VinZant 55:33
that's a great song.
Unknown Speaker 55:35
Yeah, I have
Nick VinZant 55:40
that higher. My number three is easily the funniest Christmas song. Grandma got ran over by a reindeer.
John Shull 55:46
Grandma Got Run Over By reindeer.
Nick VinZant 55:52
You put that on there because you're
John Shull 55:54
from Kansas, that that's kind of up there with the All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth. Song for me, all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth. Two Front Teeth. So I have
Nick VinZant 56:08
a son, actually, who lost his two front teeth, and he wants him for Christmas my daughter too. They're destined. They're okay,
John Shull 56:17
uh, alright. My, my, what? Where am I? My number two, so it's a tie, and they're both from shows, so it's, you're a mean one, Mister Grinch and Frosty the Snowman. Okay,
Nick VinZant 56:33
I don't there's not a lot that I would really have a big issue with my number two. All I want for Christmas is you. Mariah Carey,
John Shull 56:41
oh, I left that off. That should be on the list, probably, but I left it off because, like I said, not not a not a big fan. She
Nick VinZant 56:50
can sing, Christmas is her time. She owns Christmas. Turs, sirs, what's your number one? Then,
John Shull 56:57
let it snow. Let it snow. Let it snow.
Nick VinZant 57:04
I don't even have that on the list. It's just, it's, I
John Shull 57:07
mean, it's a classic. It's just, you know, and it's, if you know that what I just sang or said, you know the song, and everyone knows that. That quick verse, my
Nick VinZant 57:17
number one is Felice Navidad. I think that's the best Christmas song. It's the most uplifting Christmas song. Yeah? I mean, it's, it's
Miss Whitney Morgan 57:26
globally, it's probably
John Shull 57:29
one of the most popular as well, if not the most popular.
Nick VinZant 57:33
Yeah, I bet it's up there. It might be like the number one overall, globally, really upbeat, happy. I like those. Our American Chris classic Christmas songs are a little bit too slow,
John Shull 57:50
yeah, but mostly I think it's because the crooner made it, made them famous. Good
Nick VinZant 57:54
you have on your honorable mention. I have a ton,
John Shull 57:58
uh, Holly Jolly Christmas, um, Silver Bells, anything. TSO, which, if you don't know TSO, you know, not going to go into it. But what child is, this is one of my more favorites.
Nick VinZant 58:12
What's Tso? I don't know what TSO is. Tran
John Shull 58:15
siber, Trans Siberian Orchestra.
Nick VinZant 58:18
Who do you think wins in a fight Manheim steamroller or Trans Siberian Orchestra.
John Shull 58:26
Well, I've never seen Manheim, but I will tell you there are a couple of kick ass rockers in in TSO, so I'm going to go with TSO,
Nick VinZant 58:37
Okay, keep going with your honorable mention and I'll go.
John Shull 58:41
Alright, I have Mariah Carey on there last Christmas, like you said, Baby, please come home. It's the most wonderful time of the year. Jingle Bell Rock. Jingle Bell Rock, boom, boom, boom. And then I gotta find it, because I can't. I was trying to, I ran out of time. Oh, hallelujah, Rudolph, the Red Nosed Reindeer. And then the song that I have to find real fast because I can't, I can't remember it. Oh, it's Santa Claus is coming to town. Trans
Nick VinZant 59:14
Siberian Orchestra has way more people. Manheim steamroller has six people. Trans Siberian Orchestra has 24 plus 832, 3436 Trans Siberian Orchestra has like 40 plus people. So they could definitely take Manheim steamroller in a ruckus.
John Shull 59:35
How many people are in Manheim steam roller? Six people, but
Nick VinZant 59:38
they play 20 instruments. I would have thought about more than that impressive. I like Trans Siberian Orchestra and Manheim steel Rogers. I wasn't really listening when you were talking. So let me know if I covered any of there. If you already did any of these. Let's consider and finish my drink. It's the most wonderful time of the year. Andy Williams, wonderful Christmas. Time Santa Claus is Coming to Town town and walking around the Christmas tree. Brenda Lee,
John Shull 1:00:05
thought you said you had so many that was like, three.
Nick VinZant 1:00:09
Oh, I thought I wrote them all together. So I thought I had more than I really did. I had like, eight. I try not to make my list too big, right? It's
John Shull 1:00:18
better to be small and compact than big and wild.
Nick VinZant 1:00:21
Don't go tracing waterfalls. That's what TLC said a long time ago, and it's just as two today as it was then. Oh, okay, that's gonna go ahead and do it for this episode of Profoundly Pointless. I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance, leave us a quick review. We really appreciate it really helps us out and let us know what you think is the best Christmas song. John seems to like him a little bit slower. I like a more upbeat Christmas song, like it's gotta be more upbeat and happier for me, less nostalgia, more upbeat.
