JD King is one of the best Elvis Impersonators in the world. For the last twenty years he’s been winning competitions and performing all over the world. We talk the life of an Elvis Impersonator, why Elvis is still going strong and his favorite Elvis conspiracy theories. Then, it’s The Simpson and The Wire vs. Friends and South Park as we countdown the Top 5 Most Quotable TV Shows.
JD King: 01:26
Pointless: 28:18
Top 5 Most Quotable TV Shows: 51:14
Interview with Elvis Impersonator JD King
Nick VinZant 0:00
Nick, welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick VinZant Coming up in this episode Elvis and quotable TV shows. So
JD King 0:23
we put the record on, and I just My mind was blown by hearing that music for the first time. And Elvis, in a sense, was almost like the original pop music superhero. I'll tell this story. This is some almost embarrassing, but I'll tell the story that, um, I did it. I did a show to nudist camp.
Nick VinZant 0:42
I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance subscribe, leave us a rating or a review. We really appreciate. It really helps us out. If you're a new listener, welcome to the show. If you're a long time listener, thank you so much for all of your support. So I want to get right to our first guest, because he's one of the best Elvis impersonators in the world. And everything surrounding Elvis impersonation is fascinating, from the business to the social aspects all of it. This is World Champion Elvis impersonator. JD King. So why Elvis?
JD King 1:28
For me, it's just a very deeply personal relationship that goes back to a strong memory I have when I was about I think maybe five years old. I have this memory of looking through my mother's record collection. And I remember saying to my to my mom, you know, well, who's this? What is this, you know? And she said, Oh, that's, that's the king of rock and roll. That's Elvis Presley. So we put the record on, and that first side was full of all of those classic rock and roll tunes. Blue Suede Shoes, Hound Dog King, Creole Jailhouse Rock, and I just My mind was blown by hearing that music for the first time. And from then on, I was just totally hooked. You know, even if I was thinking about other things, doing other things in my life, growing up, I always had Elvis in the back of my head, always listening to that music, and then evolving my interest as as I got as I grew up and got older. Does
Nick VinZant 2:24
that seem to be a uniquely Elvis thing that people seem to get into Elvis more than they get into other musical artists? Because you always hear about Elvis impersonators. You don't necessarily hear about other Tribute Artists or impersonators. I
JD King 2:41
think there has to be, there was something larger than life about Elvis. We think about superheroes a lot today. You know, with the Marvel Cinematic Universe and things like that, and Elvis, in a sense, was almost like the original pop music superhero. For those who saw it for the first time, must have been quite an interesting experience. And if you were young, it would have been extremely, extremely exciting. If you're a bit older, you probably would have found it a, obviously, you know, bit grating. Who's this guy, you know, thrusting his hips on stage and saying, you ain't, no matter how I'm done. What does that even mean? That's not, that's not a beautiful love song, you know, that's not very descriptive, that's just crude and rude. But what it was is it was a it was a visceral connect, connection to the music, rather than just being a man standing on a stage singing about a beautiful day. Isn't this lovely with my my beautiful lady walking down the street, or whatever it was, it was someone feeling the music and expressing it through their body in a way that no one had ever really done before. And the amazing thing with Elvis is that he expresses the feeling of what you're listening to, even if you're just listening to the record, and then you see him perform it, and it's even it's 3d then it's even bigger. And that didn't just apply to rock and roll. It applied to beautiful ballots. It applied to gospel. It applied to soul, every genre that Elvis
Nick VinZant 4:00
touched. So when did you start the impersonating? I think I started to
JD King 4:04
sing at home when I was about 1314, years old, I started to experiment with playing the piano a little bit, trying to play some songs and but I didn't perform in public until, I think, I was 17, and I I went to a karaoke night with a friend. And I remember I was, I was really nervous about getting up and singing, but I really wanted to do an elder song. And in fact, I picked the song. It's now never, which is appropriate, if you think about the title, it's now Never. You know I'm going to do it. I've got to do it now. And it was very scary, but I enjoyed the experience, and it came off well, and I started just going regularly to karaoke nights with friends, and I always did Elvis songs. I was such a nerd about it. By that point in my life, I knew so much about Elvis music, I would bring my own custom backing tracks with me to the karaoke night, and I'd give him a CD and say, put this on, you know, with random, obscure songs. You know that most people never heard of a lot of them, but I. Just love singing. So I became known as the Elvis guy, you know, in the neighborhood. And eventually it was just really, it was really just suggested to me. It was never my plan to be an Elvis impersonator, or an Elvis Tribute, whatever you want to call it. It was just someone said, why don't you do, why don't you training a show? You love Elvis. You always do Elvis songs. Why don't you do a show for a bit of fun? And I thought that's a cool idea. And funnily enough, around the same time, one of the pubs I sang in were having a Christmas party, and they needed a a slot filled for an entertainer. And they said, why don't you come and do some Melvin songs? I really, you know, took it seriously, and I did the show. And that was that was back in 2002 just after Christmas, in 2002 and and it just built from there. More people just started offering me opportunities to do shows because they saw me and just got working on the circuit. And now I travel all over the world doing another show. And it's crazy because it was never my career plan. It just happened, and I it's just like an elaborate hobby in my head, and I feel like at some point I've got to stop and figure out what my real career is going to be, but I'm doing it up for 20 years now, so I guess I'm stuck with it for better, for worse. That's
Nick VinZant 6:04
the thing, right? Like, and I don't want this to sound a certain way, but like, this is not my world. So to me, it's kind of like, why would someone do this? Why would someone go watch someone do this? What do you think is the big appeal for people to come and see an Elvis impersonator. I think
JD King 6:21
it's that longing to see Elvis. Elvis was always described as one of the most electrifying performers to see in the flesh. You know, unfortunately, I was born seven years after he died, so I obviously never get the chance to do it, and so many people didn't get a chance to see him like,
Nick VinZant 6:41
would you say, for somebody who maybe didn't experience how big Elvis was, who would kind of be the closest other artists that you'd be like, it was like that, but maybe a little bit less, maybe a little bit more.
Speaker 1 6:52
That's a really good question. I think there are a variety of artists throughout music history who have become incredibly famous, incredibly culturally significant. I mean, you could say today Taylor Swift would be the most culturally significant musician in the world, but it's difficult to compare to Elvis, because he, I mean, every artist is unique, but he was very unique in this symbolism of what he of what his performances did to culture and music, going back to the mid 1950s when he emerged, he was this symbol of this new movement of rock and roll, and that was the birth of that teenage culture, and that's carried on through music history ever since then. So he's so important because he's so symbolic of the creation of that he is kind of the first thing you think of when you think of rock and roll as you think of Elvis.
Nick VinZant 7:50
Yeah, I would agree with that, right? Like, I can think of some other really big artists you mentioned Taylor Swift or Michael Jackson, but they weren't necessarily symbols of a cultural shift at the same time, and they also weren't movie stars, so he had kind of the trifecta going,
Speaker 1 8:07
and the one of the very endearing things about Elvis Presley was that he had a lot of vulnerability as an artist. He was incredibly dynamic on stage, but he wasn't an arrogant performer. He wasn't, he didn't, he didn't assume anyone was going to enjoy what he was doing. Enjoy what he was
Nick VinZant 8:23
doing. What's the hardest part to get right? He talked about the movement, the voice, the look, what's generally the hardest part for people to get right? I think
Speaker 1 8:31
that's quite individual. I'm quite lucky in that I'm able to do naturally quite a good impression of Elvis's voice when I'm singing. But then there might be someone who just naturally looks a lot like him. So they've got the look nailed right without having to do much. When I go on stage, I put a lot of contouring and highlighting on my face. I've got a smaller round of face than I was, so I try to elongate it with makeup, etc.
Nick VinZant 8:56
What for you was the thing that you really had to work at?
Speaker 1 8:59
I'd say the number one thing I've worked at over the years is improving my look. But also, I'd say aspects of his movement, because I grew up loving his concert years the 1970s that was really my, my great love, even though I mentioned to you when I first discovered it as a kid, it was all about the 50s, and that's what that was initially what I was into. But as I grew up, I got into the later stuff, the Vegas the jumpsuits, all that stuff. So I find that aspect of Elvis's dancing movement quite straightforward. Not all of it's easy to do, but I it's so deeply ingrained, because I've seen so many hours of video, and I've done it so much, but if I'm performing as a young, Elvis and his dancing was very different when he was younger. It was a totally different style. It was more Jive based. I find that much harder part because I don't do it so often, but also it wasn't my particular interest. The irony is, as I started off when I was 20, trying to be the 40 year old Elvis, and now that I'm 40, I'm doing more and more of the 20 year old Elvis.
Nick VinZant 9:53
Now, is this a full time living Yes, okay, I'll just ask you to how much money do. Make every
Speaker 1 10:00
year. It's different because it depends on what work you get. But what I will say is that it's, it's, it's a reasonable living. It's a reasonable living. It's, it's above average for me, six
Nick VinZant 10:12
figures or high fives, sounds like high fives, low sixes, high fives. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 10:18
There are guys out there, you're well into the six figures, yeah, yeah, absolutely. I don't know how many, but there are quite a few who are up there.
Nick VinZant 10:27
Where is that? Where is is that just from, like, performing, or is it from? Okay, you can sell merchandise, or you can, like, where is the money made? So to speak,
Speaker 1 10:36
most of the money will come from theater productions, big concerts, because they're the big gates. So those certain Elvis Tribute Artists who work big theater tours and big concert tours, they're the ones who are going to make the most money. Because I do. I do that as well, but I don't do it on the same scale as some of those guys. And I also do a mixture of lots of other things. I do hotels, I do festivals, I do race courses, and I do private events. They're all a bit different. How
Nick VinZant 11:10
competitive is the industry?
Speaker 1 11:14
Very competitive. It's also in a nice way. It's actually mostly very pleasant in terms of how we all interact with each other. We kind of call ourselves a brotherhood of Elvis tributes, because we all share this incredibly unique thing that that isn't really, doesn't really exist anywhere else. I mean, like you say, there, there have been huge artists like The Beatles, like Michael Jackson, but you don't get Michael Jackson tribute festivals like he do with Elvis Tribute festivals. You know, it's such a unique world, and we all talk about songs and makeup and dancing and sideburns and silly stuff that no one else would ever really understand that the way we do in the context we're talking about are
Nick VinZant 11:56
you ready for some harder slash, listener submitted questions?
Unknown Speaker 11:58
Absolutely. Let's do it. Easiest
Nick VinZant 12:01
song, hardest song. Easiest
Speaker 1 12:04
song would be something that just doesn't really challenge your range in any way, and is quite simple, straightforward, something like, Love Me Tender, pretty simple. Hard to there are nuances to it, but it, it's hard to sound really bad singing that song, I'd say hardest song. Again, it does depend on the individual and what their natural range is. One would be considered to be one of the hardest songs would be a song called hurt, which Elvis recorded 1976 the year before he died. Because it has a big range. It has a very operatic sound, which is the sound that Elvis had developed by that time in his voice, but it also has some big notes at the end that are very exposed. It's kind of just like a drum roll underneath while the while the big notes are hit. So you can't hide behind an orchestra. You can't sort of pull the microphone away. If you're having a bad vocal day, you're kind of, you're exposed to everybody singing it. So from that point of view, it's both hard technically, but it's mostly hard psychologically, because it's a, it's a you're being exposed. You know, if you get it wrong, you you've got nowhere to go.
Nick VinZant 13:11
Parts of the country, slash parts of the world, that are really into Elvis. Like, you know, if you're going to this location, they're going to be they are all about it.
Speaker 1 13:21
Honestly, you will find big groups of Elvis fans almost anywhere. The UK in particular, has a very big following of Elvis, one of the biggest outside of the United States. Australia is also another place which has a big following, where you countries where you see a lot of Elvis tributes, traveling to and working in is a good indicator that they've got a big following. But around Europe, the Netherlands, Germany, which I'm off to in a few days. You know, there are, there are specific countries which have very passionate followings. But honestly, I think virtually any country, Japan, Japan has a massive Elvis following. One of the former Japanese Prime Minister was a huge Elvis fan, and he was given a private tour of Graceland a few years ago. So pretty much anywhere you go, there are Elvis fans. What
Nick VinZant 14:06
are some of your favorite little Elvis gestures, like little things that he would do with his face, with his movements, those kind of things.
Speaker 1 14:15
One of them would just be this kind of, I mean, the obvious one is the lip obviously, you know. And he'd tell jokes about that, like, you know, I got a fish hook right here. You know, they said he's trying to be sexy. No, I got a fish hook right here, you know. And silly things like that, you know, that's the obvious one, everyone knows. But just things like looking around and just sort of go, you know, blowing his lips a bit, like, wow, this is a big thing, you know. Another thing he'd do is, sort of, he'd make little jokey gestures with his face. His thing with Elvis is that he had great sense of humor as a performer as well. He didn't take himself too seriously. Took his music seriously, but never himself too seriously. So he do sort of, you know, cross his eyes, or do this, you know, look around in funny ways, and putting those little bits into the show, I think, helps to create that sense of him as a person. Listen
Nick VinZant 15:01
on a scale of one to 10, like one is me trying to do Elvis 10 is Elvis himself? How close to that 10 would you say that you get? And how close would most impersonators get?
Speaker 1 15:16
That's a hard question. I could get in trouble for saying this, I don't know whether to be to be bolshy or whether to be to be conservative, you know, just so I don't offend anybody, right? It took no one's a perfect 10. Obviously, if perfect 10 is Elvis himself, no one's a perfect 10. If the very best Elvis tributes in the world were, let's say an let's say a nine, just to fake, sake of argument, you could say 876, whatever. Let's say they're a nine. Um, I think it's very hard to say exactly based on everything you could say vocally, I give myself a nine on sounding like Elvis in most of what I do vocal technique. Probably would give myself a nine, maybe a seven or an eight, but actual sort of singing technique, but sounding like Elvis. Yeah, I think not everything, but certain songs, I could sound a lot like Elvis, but so I overall, I probably in myself when I combine all my look and my moves and everything, I probably give myself around, let's say, an eight, maybe if the very best of nine, I give myself an eight, I could be a nine, though I have the I have the skill to the innate, the innate skill to be, but I just have to get off, get off my ass and go to the gym. Basically put a bit more work into it. But your average Elvis Tribute that you might see, the average level. Well, I guess it sounds, sounds crap to say, but let's say it's five, right? You know, it's about five. You know, the people there are something like 55,000 Elvis tributes in the world. Is the last figure I heard quoted, which is kind of crazy.
Nick VinZant 16:55
Do you inadvertently end up looking like Elvis all the time, like in order to kind of appear like Elvis on the stage, do you basically have to look like Elvis all the time in real life?
Speaker 1 17:09
Well, as you can see from this video, obviously, I've got sideburns, and I've got a bit of the Elvis hair going on here, so you don't have to do that. I was talking the other day to a very famous elves tribute. He's completely bald, so you would not see him in the street and think Elvis, because he just sticks it on. If you are in my position, you do inadvertently get attention for being Elvis, and people will looking, right? Elvis, this is British accent coming up, right? Elvis, go, well, they just walk past and go and, yeah, oh, great, yeah,
Nick VinZant 17:43
thanks. Never heard that one before. Every job has its ups and downs. That's right.
Speaker 1 17:47
It's not a bad down to be fair. Like, if you're obviously looking
Nick VinZant 17:50
and sounding like Elvis, you know how some people are, does Elvis impersonation have some residual benefits after the show? Are people like, Oh, I've always wanted to hook up with Elvis. This is a
Speaker 1 18:05
question I asked my wife when we first met. I said, is it about me, or is it about Elvis? Because we actually met. When I was I was presenting an award, so Ronnie just as Elvis. So she said, No, don't worry, it's not about Elvis, although she did tell me a story, because she's slightly older than me, my wife and she was three when Elvis died, and apparently she cried and told her mum that she was really upset because one day she was supposed to marry Elvis. Is what she said as a three year old, apparently. So marrying me, you know, not the same thing, but sort of, but, no, no, she, she, she doesn't feel that way, but it does make you wonder. You know, um, it's part of the appeal. If you, if you can, Elvis was an incredibly handsome man. Let's be honest. He's one of the best looking men ever. I think so. If you can, if you can, if you if you're handsome, naturally, if you can look handsome on stage, that does help, because the sex appeal is part of the appeal. I'll tell this story. This is some almost embarrassing, but I'll tell the story that, um, I did it. I did a show at a nudist camp a few years ago. I didn't know it was a nudist camp before I got there, by the way. And they said, Don't worry, we'll put our clothes on for the actual show, you know. And most of them did, apart from some middle aged men who didn't sort of stood in doorways, you know, leaning against the door frame, looking at me like this. So I spent most of the time looking at the ceiling, but afterwards, I'll never forget this, the lady who booked me for the show, she said, We love the show. Thank you so much. We're all going to get in the hot tub now this. She said, It's an eight person tub, but we can usually squeeze about 16 of us in it, and we'd love to invite you to join us, but there's one rule. You're not allowed to wear swimming trunks, because that contaminates the water. So that was that's the proposition that always sticks with me. Eight person tub, 16 of. US, no crooks. So to which I politely decline. I'm terribly sorry. I've got to get home. Yeah. So, yeah, it can happen.
Nick VinZant 20:11
So he wait, he performed in the 50s, 60s and 70s, right? Yeah. Is there a harder decade to do? Like, what's the hardest decade to impersonate Elvis 5060s, 70s.
Speaker 1 20:23
Some guys will find the 50s straightforward and the 70s really hard, or the other way around. I think It partly depends on what you've done the most in your career, but also I think what it depends on what naturally you have. I mean, Elvis voice changed a lot from the 50s to the 70s, his voice got lot deeper, lot richer in the 70s, partly because he took up smoking quite a lot, the cigars and things, so that darkened his tone quite a lot. But also he was older, he gained more of an operatic singing style. For me, the 50s is the scariest era to do, because I just I don't do it very often. I normally am that Vegas Elvis, or the sort of Elvis, sort of his comeback special in the late 60s, the movies are kind of an in between, but there's some really hard, technical dancing, actually, in the movie stuff. Elvis was a great dancer, and he did some of his best dance routines in movies. Jailhouse Rock is a famous dance that he does in the late 50s. But throughout the 60s, things like Viva Las Vegas and various other songs, bossa nova, baby. They're complex dance moves. You know, really, really, you need good coordination, good core strength, good practice to do that. Well, not everyone does it particularly well. So, yeah, I'd say it's very much an individual thing. Which
Nick VinZant 21:35
era is the hardest? Where do you get the clothes? Well, luckily
Speaker 1 21:39
enough, there are a lot of vendors out there providing wares for Elvis tributes. Because the Elvis Tribute business is big. Is big business. It still is big business. In fact, it's it's getting bigger still, which is amazing. So there are several companies who make replica Elvis outfits. Most of mine come from an American company called B and K enterprises, and they actually partnered with the original designers of Elvis outfits to buy the patents the designs, and they actually had one of Elvis's original designers on their books, working for them for many years, actually making the outfits. So you can't get really any more authentic than that of actually buying a suit that is derived from those original patterns and designs, but there are other fantastic vendors around the world as well who also make amazing replicas. They're expensive, they're big investments. They cost 1000s of dollars to these outfits, but they're the tools of your trade.
Nick VinZant 22:32
This is kind of a deeper question. Do you think that what role did Elvis's end kind of have on his legacy. Do you think him dying at a relatively young age kind of cemented it and increased his legacy? Or do you think that it kind of took away from him ultimately? I
Speaker 1 22:53
think it's both. I think dying young always, always, I'm saying a good thing, it's not a good thing, but it, it freezes you in time as never having gone old. And you think people like James Dean, Marilyn Monroe, you know, members of that 27 club, right? A lot of people died at 27 you know they, they never got old. So they're always that way in people's minds. The problem with Elvis was, he did die young, but he, he died in an unfortunate way, Young. Obviously, the manner of his death was, was unfortunate, and it's, you know, is open to ridicule and things like that. In reality, it was a horrible way to die, right? He had a huge heart attack while on the toilet, you know, terrible, terrible thing. But also, of course, those last few years before he died, he had his physical appearance had gone downhill a lot. He had a lot of health problems in his later life. Obviously, his his drug problems are well documented. But he also, he also had some hereditary problems, and he suffered all kinds of consequences as a result of those health issues. Many people in his family actually died in their 40s as well, including his mother.
Nick VinZant 24:07
What is your favorite Elvis conspiracy theory?
Speaker 1 24:13
My favorite Elvis conspiracy theory? Well, yeah, we so yeah, to come back to something is the idea that Elvis had multiple brothers, so it wasn't just him, because we, a lot of people know that Elvis had a stillborn twin called Jesse, Jesse garon, who died at birth, very sadly. But there are people who believe that Jesse didn't die, and in fact, he grew up with Elvis, and when Elvis became famous. It was kind of a persona that they both took on, and they would alternate, so you would see, you know, in a certain movie or a certain scene or a certain concert, it's, it's one of them, it's Elvis, let's say, and then the next night, Jesse's on stage. And, you know, people showed pictures of two different concerts and say, this one's Elvis, this one's Jesse. Right? But it gets even weirder when it becomes a story about how there were multiple brothers. So there's, there's, there's one called Tony, and there's one called David, and there's, there's four or five or six of them, apparently, that no one ever realized that there were all these brothers living. I guess they were all living at Graceland in Memphis, right? But they just sort of tag in and out wrestling style, I don't know, and sort of swap. And they all kind of, they all kind of got the same health problems at the same time and put on weight at the same time, and all died at the same time. Maybe, I don't know, but that's, that's the weirdest and most ridiculous conspiracy theory that I've heard. But it just kind of makes me laugh that one, because it's so silly.
Nick VinZant 25:39
Where do you think the future goes for yourself, for Elvis, the world of Elvis impersonation like, what do you think the future holds? Is this declining, rising, staying the same.
Speaker 1 25:54
It's its own subculture. At this point, it's taken on a life of its own that kind of almost expands upon Elvis. What's interesting is that some of the some of the most famous Elvis Tribute Artists now, they're still dressing as Elvis, doing his songs, etc, but they've kind of, they've kind of expanded the horizons in terms of the entertainment value, the the presentation of the shows in a way that Elvis never really did, but it's very popular. I'm confident about the future of Elvis fandom, because it's not just the people who grew up with Elvis who are coming to see shows, it's kids. And then I contain the number of children who come to my shows dressed in Elvis suits, and they come up afterwards, and they they meet me, and they have a picture and say, I want to be an Elvis Tribute when I'm older, it's taken on a life of its own, which is kind of beyond Elvis. I think Elvis's mind would be blown by this, to be honest, because he was always worried that people would forget him overnight. He used to have nightmares about that, that everyone would somehow realize he was no good, and they'd Forget about him. But in a way, he's just he's everlasting at this point,
Nick VinZant 27:01
that's pretty much all the questions we got, like, what's kind of coming up next for you? Where can people find you that kind of stuff?
Speaker 1 27:08
Well, my stage name is JD King, and if you go on to Google, you put JD King Elvis in, you'll find my website with all my show listings. I'm just off to Germany for a special Elvis 90th birthday celebration. It would have been Elvis's 90th birthday tomorrow, the eighth of January, from when we're recording this on the seventh So yeah, that there's a load of events going on to celebrate that. And I'll be touring around Europe this year. I'll be going to back over the states, probably in the summer, to Memphis for Elvis week during August. So hopefully me see some folks on your side of the pond, then maybe so, yeah, a full diary of all kinds of interesting things going on from any kind of place you could imagine, because there are Elvis fans everywhere, and I'm incredibly grateful for that. I
Nick VinZant 27:52
want to thank JD, so much for joining us. If you want to connect with him, we have linked to him on our social media sites. We're Profoundly Pointless on Tiktok, Instagram and YouTube, and we've also included his information in the episode description. And if you want to see more of this interview, the YouTube version will be live on January 16, at 12:30pm Pacific. Okay, now let's bring in John Shaw and get to the pointless part of the show. Can you do a celebrity impression? I
John Shull 28:27
don't really have, I mean, to be honest, I don't really have a good one. I mean, I have accents that I think are funny, but like, they're not, they're not geared after any particular celebrity.
Nick VinZant 28:39
Oh, okay, well, give us one of your accents, and let me see how bad it is.
John Shull 28:43
I tell you what, man, we gotta go on down to that farm and get us a couple of them cows. You know, I'm saying,
Nick VinZant 28:49
What is that supposed I mean, I know what it's like. What are you in your mind? What is that supposed to be, actually,
John Shull 28:55
you know what? People that told me I can do a pretty good boom, hour from King of the Hill. Okay, let's hear it. Let's hear it, man, baby, I'm gonna get down to go somewhere to tell you what, man, I'm gonna go down and get bearing to somebody.
Nick VinZant 29:10
Okay, that's not, I feel like that's that's better than I thought it would be. I'm not gonna go ahead and say it was good, but it was definitely better than I thought.
John Shull 29:19
I actually, I don't know where you're going with us. But I do feel the need to say that I feel celebrity Well, impersonators in general, like the guy that was on Fox the NFL show, Jeff Dunham, like it's an art I mean, it is hard to do a good impression of somebody. I mean, God, who could ever forget when when Alec Baldwin played Trump? I mean, that was
Nick VinZant 29:42
gold. I mean, I can forget it, because I don't think I ever saw it, but I don't really remember any. I don't think I've I think I'm one of the few people in the world who has never actually watched Saturday Night Live
John Shull 29:54
like ever, not ever skit. I've seen
Nick VinZant 29:57
skits. I've seen skits. But I've never, like, sat down and watched the show, never, never sat down and watched friends. Never watched the office parks and rec pretty much any big TV show. I've never actually sat down lost survivor, any reality television show.
John Shull 30:21
Uh, I'm there with you, like on friends in Seinfield, but I've seen most of the other mainstream shows. I think you not for you saying you have never seen Saturday live, that's kind of pitiful, to be honest with you.
Nick VinZant 30:34
I've never really found it funny. If there's a skit that's funny, I'll watch that. But I've never really found the show in general to be funny.
John Shull 30:43
It's kind of it's funny that we're talking about this because I just had this conversation about, do you remember appointment TV? 80s, 90s?
Nick VinZant 30:54
I remember, like, racing home from school sometimes, or waking up at a certain time to, like, make sure that you saw X Men. The original X Men animated series was the one that was like, what time is that? On 8am I gotta be here.
John Shull 31:08
Yeah, I remember, like, not being social with my friends to watch, like, family matters. And, you know, TGIF on ABC on Friday nights, like from eight to 10. Oh,
Nick VinZant 31:21
I never did that. TV's never been a huge thing for me. I like animation, which is probably why TV, there wasn't a lot of that when I was growing up.
John Shull 31:29
I know I can also do like a Billy Bob Thornton from sling blade, but that's awesome. That hard. No,
Nick VinZant 31:35
you kind of look it. I don't know it
John Shull 31:39
is. I'm gonna get that there apple and cut it in half. There's a guy that we don't talk about as a society enough, Billy Bob Thornton,
Nick VinZant 31:49
I feel like we talk about him an appropriate amount. I don't think so
John Shull 31:53
for what he's done, like personally and on screen. I don't think we've talked about him enough. I
Nick VinZant 31:59
think he's fine. I think that he deserves is right where he should be, which is getting less credit for Steve than Steve Buscemi. That's where I feel like he lives. He He just needs to get less credit for whatever he's doing than Steve Buscemi, whatever his name is. He don't even start. Don't even go down this road. Fine, fine. We won't. You can't. He's not. He's not.
John Shull 32:27
Has okay. I just want to say one sentence to this. I don't think Bushey has ever even been nominated for a major cinematic award, not that that means, like that's what you got to judge it on, but I feel like that's what we kind of have to judge this on.
Nick VinZant 32:47
I hope, please I'm looking I don't know how to steal. Please be like an Academy Award winner for Outstanding Performance, Best Performance films critic award, Emmy Award, Screen Actors go. Award film tribute. Award Independent Spirit Award, news and documentary award, documentary award. Seems like he's got a lot of awards. But anyway, don't want to make this Steve Buscemi versus Billy Bob Thornton.
John Shull 33:09
He's won Academy Awards, Billy buff. But anyways, great.
Nick VinZant 33:13
Great for him. I'm very happy he's not Steve Buscemi. He's also been married
John Shull 33:17
six times, so yeah, good for him. That'll happen. Alright, uh, shout out to him, right? Where did that point was that it was that all you had, yep. All right, let's see Melissa Gatlin, David Marinelli, a good, strong like Italian name, I don't know Marinelli. It's
Nick VinZant 33:36
like a stereotype Italian name, like
John Shull 33:39
Master choli, anyways, all right, uh, pizza Jack, yeah, see you doing, okay, Italian?
Nick VinZant 33:46
No, not. I'm Italian. I'm part Italian.
John Shull 33:50
Never would have guessed that. I don't know where I was. Tony lupus, Cindy Johnson, Pietra, Dawn, Sharon ack, I don't Dawn, right? That was funny. No one else left Brian Cashman, but not to the Brian Cashman that was involved with the New York Yankees, because I had to look that up, of course, Angus Young, Amanda Johnson, and we're gonna end here with Brian Bennett.
Nick VinZant 34:25
Do you think there would be more people named Angus if it wasn't so close to anus?
John Shull 34:33
No, well, I don't think so. I think Angus is a old school Western European name that just hasn't really translated well. And like, I guess you could say, like, Australia name too, that just hasn't really translated because wasn't the lead guitarist of AC DC, isn't he? Isn't his nickname, Angus Young, or Angus something
Nick VinZant 34:53
there was. I know it's Angus, but I don't know what position within the band that he has. I'm going to go out on the limb and say. Think that the the proximity of Angus to anus has reduced. The number of Angus is by 75% it's just too close. You can't risk it. Like, if I'm a dad, and my wife says, Hey, let's I am a dad. But if my wife is like, let's name our son Angus, I'd be like, Nope, it's too close to anus.
John Shull 35:19
Angus. Young. I knew I was right. No, I don't think that's just like, do people not say Uranus because anus is in the is in the name of the plant, like whoever, you know, whoever named your technically, it's Uranus. But you know, whoever named that was, like, these freaking idiots are going to be saying Uranus for millions of years. That
Nick VinZant 35:39
was one of the and you would never have been able to guess that that was how that name was going to evolve, like they had no idea. I think the actual pronunciation isn't even Uranus. I think it's like, like Uranus, but he's one of the gods of the Greek pantheon. I believe ancient Roman history major in college finally got a chance to truck that sucker out after paying how much for it.
John Shull 36:01
Okay? State baby purpose take
Nick VinZant 36:05
I missed that bar. Okay, all right,
John Shull 36:09
let's see. I feel like we have to talk a little bit, at least a sentence about the wildfires in California, because I, I don't know, I guess being on the East Coast, you're on the west coast, but you're well north of of California, obviously, um, like, when I, like, when I hear, you know, forest fires, whatever, field fires in California, I'm like, okay, no big deal, right? Like, like, there was a couple, what, four or five years ago, like, it was the biggest fire in American history, or something. She's like, okay. But for some reason, these fires have seemed to captivate everyone's attention. I think it's probably only because of the proximity to La itself, but I also think from watching several reports, it proves that some people are just really stupid. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 36:56
I mean, I don't think it's going out on a limb to make an argument that given the current state of the climate, we have built in places that we probably shouldn't have built in, and nature does not, you don't get second chances, and it's going to hand you your ass. So I think that we're in the result. I think that moving forward, as somebody who has worked in the insurance industry, some places to live are just going to be so absolutely expensive to ensure that you're not going to be able to live there. And maybe we should now, I think that we as a society, and you can look at this from where we build to what we do with technology, I think that we have eclipsed the part of can we do this, and moved into the part of, should we do this? Should we do this with AI? Should we build in this location just because we can? And I think that we're finding out that a lot of the answers are like, just because you can do it doesn't mean that you should.
John Shull 37:53
Apparently someone is watching us because they just, they just text me and said, Why are you calling people idiots who are fleeing their homes? And here's my reasoning. Man, that was quick. Yeah, no, no kidding, it's been like 40 seconds. Here's my reasoning for that. Simply put, I've watched a lot of clips of actors who are like, I'm going to stay with my house. And once again, they're probably million dollar houses. You know, a lot of them have been through things like this before, but if someone tells me to get out. And this actually reminds me, I'm sorry, Nick for the minute rant reminds me of the Mount St Helens explosion of 1980 how does this reminds
Nick VinZant 38:29
you of that you weren't born in 1980 Hold on, live in 1980 so it doesn't remind you of this in any way. It reminds me of the three second clip I saw in the news. And now let me relate this to what I am currently also experiencing television. There
John Shull 38:45
was a movie released, and I've seen the movie several times.
Nick VinZant 38:48
But fiction or documentary, fiction or documentary,
John Shull 38:52
uh, documentary, fiction,
Nick VinZant 38:56
Animaniacs. Was it Animaniacs? Hold on.
John Shull 38:59
You're I'm going to circle the back. If you stop. I saw, I've
Nick VinZant 39:02
seen many documentaries about animals. I believe it's called Looney Tunes.
John Shull 39:08
So there was one old man who refused to leave his home, even though everyone told him to go, that if, if the if the mountain blew on the side, that it was going to blow up, the law was going to come down, he'd have no chance. It was going to die. Well, guess what happened? That happened. He ignored everyone, and he died. I feel like if someone hands you or tells you to get out of your house, there's fire coming and you don't do it. And I'm going to sound like a callous asshole here, like, Isn't that your fault if you don't listen to the warnings
Nick VinZant 39:40
I understand what you're saying. I think, though, that in reality, it's never that simple, that it's not just people can't just leave. It's never that simple as okay, you know what? Just grab your stuff and go. But what about the 88 year old man who's got his medication there, and he's lived there with his wife for however many decades, and that's the only thing that he has left of her? Like, I agree with what you're saying. I just think that in reality, it's not that simple.
John Shull 40:15
And I don't, I don't disagree with you. I just feel like it's life or it's literally possible death and I'd like to live. I don't know. Maybe, you know, I don't know. I guess I'm 88 maybe I'd have a different viewpoint. Yeah, I have no idea.
Nick VinZant 40:30
I think that they're, yeah, it's complicated, right? Like, I think that, like a lot of things in life, it becomes complicated once you really get into it. Because people, like as in people, as in all of us, we're pretty stupid. Altogether we're pretty stupid. But a person by themselves is generally not stupid, and they have reasons for the decisions that they make. And I think that if you were probably in those same circumstances and had their situation, their experiences, their intelligence level, their whatever, you would probably make the same decision as they did. I just don't think we're all we're really that different from each other at the end of the day, like you would have probably done the same thing as the person that you probably think is an idiot if you were in their circumstances, knowing what they know.
John Shull 41:20
I don't know. Well, I don't know. I think, I think it's a good I think it's a good talk to have. And I also think, with the changing climate, all you crazy people out there that don't believe in it, like you have to have wherever you live, like you have to be thinking about, like, these things could happen, like wherever you live. But anyways, oh, I don't worry, though. We
Nick VinZant 41:39
are in the we 2025. Is the year of fuck around, find out, and we've been fucking around with the climate, and now we're gonna find out, and it's not gonna be good, because nature is going to crush us. It's like, you can't even compare to it in any way, like, and there's no room for bull, like it's going to do whatever it wants to do, and there's nothing you can do about it.
John Shull 42:06
I gotta tell you, in in Metro Detroit, where I live, we're supposed to have 20 inches of snow by now, and
Nick VinZant 42:13
let's see. Let's see, right here, 17 minutes is probably one of the longest that John has ever been able to go before he brought up the weather. That's pretty impressive. That's good for you.
John Shull 42:24
Okay, I got made fun of by a co worker. And I want to get your opinion on this. I remember that person was right chime in on this. So every morning, so we have a security guard at my work, you have to, you know, badge in. They open up the gate, whatever you go through every morning. His name's John, too, by the way. Shout out. I don't think he listens, but if he ever does, I'm going to tell him about it tomorrow morning. Every morning, when I badge in, we talk about two things, the sporting events that happened the night before, whether it's the piston, Red Wings, lions, whatever, and always the weather. Does that mean I'm an old man? Yeah? Okay, yeah, it
Nick VinZant 43:00
does, dude, if it's every day, like, what? The thing that I don't understand about the conversation about the weather is, especially with somebody who was there, where you are, they know what it's like. I'm not like, what? No,
John Shull 43:13
we talk about like, hey man, like, you know, you know you're, you're a guard and a guard, you know the guard check, like, make sure you bundle up today. Which, I guess sounds kind of stupid, which kind of
Nick VinZant 43:22
stupid? Kind of stupid. Like, he's already outside. He knows what the weather is like. I wouldn't like, okay, it's 530 here in Seattle Washington right now. Seattle Washington, it's dark outside. I wouldn't walk outside and see the person on the street walking by and be like, hey, dark out here, isn't it? Like, yeah, I know I'm experiencing this thing at the exact same time that you are. You're literally telling me no new information that I didn't know. Like, hey, cold out here. Like, I know you
John Shull 43:49
know what. It's our special minute. All right, leave me alone. If you could
Nick VinZant 43:53
talk about whatever you want to talk about, but just don't try to justify it. Like, it's like, hey, He probably hates you. He probably doesn't want to talk to you about the weather.
John Shull 44:06
Do you think what he sees by car pull up? He's like, Yeah, Please, God, be on the phone. Don't talk to me. And then I'm like, Hey, how are
Nick VinZant 44:13
Oh, every single person in this planet, on this planet has at least three or four people that like, Oh, God, I gotta talk to this person about this. And they think that I want to talk to them. I can think of three people just right off the top of my head that I talk to about something, and they think that I want to talk to them about it, and I don't, I don't want to talk to them about it.
John Shull 44:39
And here I here, I think this entire time that he's liked me, and now I realize He probably hates, probably
Nick VinZant 44:44
hates your guts, because you're the kind of guy that this thinks that people should just don't worry about this big wildfire. No, that's amazing that somebody texted you 40 seconds after you said it to like, don't, don't, don't, bail out, and then you kept going. You. And then you kept it going like me, oh no, no. Listen, they bring this up again. Are you gonna do it again? You're
John Shull 45:07
about to do it again. Don't feel like you're making you're making me like, No, I just it's not that if someone hands you an evacuation order, I don't care. It's it's life over the possible, anything else, like I just don't understand, just do it. I would do it. But
Nick VinZant 45:25
I think that people who don't feel that they will lose what they the part they will lose enough of their life if they don't like okay, I may not be dead, but everything around me that I cherish and value will be gone, and I need to stay here and protect what part of my life I can. So I'm just saying that I think I get what you're saying. I get the the judgment that you have. I understand it, but I think that people have different circumstances that you probably aren't aware of, and that if you are in those circumstances, you would probably make the same decision.
John Shull 46:01
Fine, we'll move on. Uh, all right, this could work like you're a dick. You could be. I'm sure some are gonna say that, which I guess is fine, though that's not how I wanted to come across. I know I
Nick VinZant 46:12
will say this if I can interrupt you one more time. For people who may have heard this, John is actually a nice and caring person. He's not nearly as much of a jerk as he sounds like in that conversation. He's actually very thoughtful and is a good friend, incredibly small penis, which he tries to make up for by blaming people for wildfires.
John Shull 46:32
Tick tock could be the last week for tick tock, and it's probably the only social media that I actually enjoy. Um,
Nick VinZant 46:41
there's something about the algorithm that makes it because you're exposed to something new and nobody else. No other social media platform seems to have been able to capture this. I have no desire to migrate to anything else. Like, no, I think I'm just, I think I'm just kind of done.
John Shull 46:59
I just don't know what the hell is happening with x and Instagram. I've never been a huge Instagram person, so it's a bigger debate that we shouldn't have here, but it would affect us is that social media say social media, Tiktok gets banned, and whatever, Facebook blah, blah, blah isn't what it is. You know, I don't know how certain things survive. It's a whole, it's a whole cultural phenomenon that is in the the grasp of possibly being shut down because of all these social media bands they're talking about, specifically tick tock.
Nick VinZant 47:37
It's crazy. And the only difference is, is that it's, it's like, Look, I've said this many times. It's never about what someone is doing. It's always about who is doing it. It's perfectly okay for American companies to take all of our data and sell it to whoever. But if another company is doing it, it's not American it's suddenly a big problem. Like, it's perfectly okay for the American government to spy on us, but if other people are doing it, like, uh, so that's just my thing. It's just hypocrisy to me. It's not It's never about what someone is doing. It's always who is doing it,
John Shull 48:09
uh, let's see. And then I had a couple other things, but they're all kind of current events. So I'm just going to end on the question that I posed here, which is, if you could have any vein in your body, protruding, you know, like, weight lifters have a bicep vein, like The Rock has, like, the forehead vein. Would you want a calf vein? Would you want, you know, a penis vein? Like, what vein would you want to be? Like, protruding, to be like, yeah. Like, like, there it is. I
Nick VinZant 48:40
will give you a definitive list of the best veins on the body. Like the best veins on the body to show are the bicep vein, the vein that goes, like here, the shoulder vein that you can get up there, and then, if you can get, if you can get a vein on your leg, like, like a calf or something, I've had a vein on my leg where I could see veins like sticking out on my legs at one time after I got, like, I was pretty thin already, and then I got sick, and I lost some weight, but I was still, like, lifting because, you know, I know bitch.
Unknown Speaker 49:20
I know bitch.
Nick VinZant 49:21
I know bitch. I'm still gonna be lifting my boy, still in the gym with my swole mate. No, Jesus Christ. But anyway, it lasted throughout your day. I was like, oh, there's a vein on my leg. I think actually it probably stops up here. My definitive list of veins on the body are bicep vein, vein that goes down your forearm and then shoulder, right there. Okay, maybe chest. Maybe you could go chest, but then you start like, though that's too thin. How about your show? What vein Do you want?
John Shull 49:51
I would love to have, like, neck veins. Like I. What I don't know, why I just, I just think it would be, you know, because why, I don't, you know how, like, really, you probably have them. You're, you're a skinnier guy, like, you have the, yeah, like you have the ones on the side. I think those
Nick VinZant 50:10
are veins, dude, that's just, like, cartilage or no, you
John Shull 50:15
have the ones on the side.
Nick VinZant 50:19
That's not a vein.
John Shull 50:21
Like, anyways, one, yeah, or like, maybe, like, the forehead vein, or something like, I don't know, I
Nick VinZant 50:28
don't think that you've ever like, did you think about this before you said anything? I can't at all. I didn't, not at all. That's the most ridiculous.
John Shull 50:39
Yeah, not at all actually, but I'm gonna stay with it. Just okay,
Nick VinZant 50:44
yeah, embrace it. Look what. Whenever you're confronted with alternate with facts that directly contradict what you say. Just keep keep plowing through right? If you say j2 is if you say two and two is five, and somebody shows you it's four, like, nope. Stick with it. Keep going.
John Shull 51:01
Hasn't our culture shown that you can convince people of bullshit and they will believe it
Nick VinZant 51:07
so well they want to believe it. You got to get people to want to believe it. Are you done? Is that your whole
John Shull 51:15
thing done? I'm done. I'm sitting there like an old man now.
Nick VinZant 51:17
I like your what's the best vein on your body? Question, there you go. Okay, very good. I mean, I would never choose neck, but that's do your thing. Okay, so our top five is the top five most quotable TV shows. What's your number five? So
John Shull 51:36
I have a question for you before I go into my my ran here or my list. Have you seen every show that's on your list? Well, yeah, okay, all right, because I did only the shows I've seen. So yeah,
Nick VinZant 51:49
I mean, you don't have to see every episode of every show,
John Shull 51:53
Okay, that's fair. That's all right. So my my number five is South Park.
Nick VinZant 52:00
Oh, okay. I, I didn't put South Park on there, but South Park is very quotable. I If, if somebody, if somebody put that at one, I wouldn't have that big of an issue with it.
John Shull 52:14
Yeah. I mean, in most people from the age you know that are 40 and below, have seen some, some kind of South Park, a rerun something, and there's so many quotable lines. I mean, it's, it's amazing what they've done for the last 25 years. The
Nick VinZant 52:31
one that jumps out to me is they took good jobs. And I don't even watch soft Park, and I know that one,
John Shull 52:41
anything that Cartman says is just, I mean, it's just, uh, it just turns into a meme. Like, you know, any anything, anything it says, or does Mom, mom, god damn it.
Nick VinZant 52:51
Kenny, yeah, that's like, I don't have it on my list. But you could make an argument that that would be number one. You absolutely could my number five, the wire cometh the king. You best not miss. The wire is incredibly quotable. I
John Shull 53:11
wanted to put it on my on my list, but I love the wire. I've watched the wire. I could tell you what each season is, or like what it entails, but there's only literally two quotes that I can remember from the entire show.
Nick VinZant 53:25
I think the problem with the wire is that while it has great dialog, it doesn't present itself to everyday situations as much as a lot of the other shows on this list. I think that's what holds the wire back.
John Shull 53:37
I mean, obviously you have Omar, and then you have the council guy, she and that's like, all I remember, man, that's those are the two I don't remember much more other than that.
Nick VinZant 53:51
Yeah, the f did I do? That's pretty good. But come at the king you met. Come at the king you best not. Miss is probably the biggest one from the watch. Also,
John Shull 54:03
I think my number one you're gonna have a huge issue, issue with. So I'm curious to see. Was it wheel fortune,
Nick VinZant 54:10
game shows? God, you like game shows so much? I didn't at all. I didn't
John Shull 54:15
even say game shows. I don't even like game shows. Unless
Nick VinZant 54:17
you do. You bring up somebody, Pat st Jack could be another episode. Okay, I
John Shull 54:23
definitely don't, man, so there's so many, I don't know. I really struggle with the top four, because I feel like any of them could be number one. But I'll go. My number four is the Simpsons.
Nick VinZant 54:36
Oh, no, no, The Simpsons should be higher up on the list. The Simpsons should be higher up on the list. Once again,
John Shull 54:45
like, what? What are? There's one quote that that, that, that I can recall. That's the most famous quote.
Nick VinZant 54:55
What is it? Go, go. You eat my shorts. Yeah, I do. There's a ton of them, right? Like, I do one about statistics, like, 60% is, like, numbers will tell you anything. 60% of people know that, right? Like, The Simpsons has a high, dr, Nick, there's so many from The Simpsons. The Simpsons is, is higher than number four. My number four is Seinfeld,
John Shull 55:20
okay, I mean, I've never seen it, so I don't really know. I couldn't name you any of the quotes or anything.
Nick VinZant 55:27
I think Seinfeld, you know, like you want to be my latex salesman. Serenity, now, those are pretty there's some pretty good ones from Seinfeld. I think if we were 10 or 20 years back, it would have been much higher than number four, but right now, I put Seinfeld number four. All
John Shull 55:46
right, my number three is Parks and Rec.
Nick VinZant 55:51
Oh, I've never seen that, but I do see that quoted a lot. People are always like Parks and Rec.
John Shull 55:55
Treat yourself. That's Oh yeah. I said one of the most famous ones, you know? Okay,
Nick VinZant 56:01
okay, I put so many. My number five is or my, sorry, my number three is Game of Thrones.
John Shull 56:10
Okay? I mean, once again, I feel like I only know, like I've seen the whole show, but I feel like there's only a couple that I remember the and I'm gonna, I'm gonna say the one that I remember, because why not, but the one where he's like, crowd fit for King, you know? And then he pours the molten lava or molten metal over his head,
Nick VinZant 56:30
oh, you know nothing. Jon Snow, I would say, is probably the biggest quote from that. I think what holds Game of Thrones back is the same as what holds the wire back is, it's just not, you just can't bring it up in everyday conversation like it just doesn't. You don't get to transport yourself to a medieval fantasy realm and use quotes from that very often in daily situations. Well, some some people do, man, some people, some
John Shull 56:54
people do, uh, my number two, and it's really just because of one quote, though, there's many other quotes that are well known, but it's Breaking Bad.
Nick VinZant 57:05
Oh, which one are you gonna go with?
John Shull 57:07
Oh, by far, one of the best scenes in television history. I am the one who knocks. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 57:13
that's the biggest one for Breaking Bad. I haven't I didn't put it on my list, but I really thought about breaking bad up there. Okay, number two, SpongeBob. Okay, ready. SpongeBob has a lot, a lot of cultural significance, especially now I think,
John Shull 57:33
I mean, I was thinking about some kids shows, because a lot of kids shows like they, I mean, they've had their quotes, whether they're songs, whatever SpongeBob is probably at the top of that list. If we did like kid shows, okay, what's your number one? You're gonna hate it. I know I but it's a TV show and accounts, and that's the WWE professional wrestling.
Nick VinZant 58:04
I Okay. I mean, that's like stretching the definition of everything to get yourself to that. But if you're going to stretch that that far, then yeah, okay, TV,
John Shull 58:18
it's a TV program, right? It's a TV program with characters, and it's all it is is quotes. All it is is one liners.
Nick VinZant 58:27
I feel that you're technically correct, but violating the spirit of the entire thing.
John Shull 58:33
So yeah, you're technically correct. Shut your mouth.
Nick VinZant 58:37
My number one is the Simpsons, which it should be, The Simpsons. The Simpsons is the most quotable TV show. I don't think it's really that particularly close when you think about it for the length of it. I think the Simpsons is the most quotable one. There's just too many from there.
John Shull 58:50
I mean, I really think my wrestling one is like, it's by far the number one. It's by far
Nick VinZant 58:55
the number one, but it's also like, Yeah, but like, that's not exactly the way that you're supposed to do it. Like, yes, you're technically correct, but everybody would know that you're wrong.
John Shull 59:07
Are you not a real American? I'm
Nick VinZant 59:09
looks it. I'm okay with wrestling, but, like, nobody would put this on their list. I've been like wrestling, okay. But how? Like, okay, NBA basketball is a TV show at the end of it would like,
John Shull 59:23
No, that's a sport. Three pointer
Nick VinZant 59:24
sport is the most. It's still a TV show. That's it's not admitting, you're admitting wrestling's not a
John Shull 59:30
sport. It's not a it's not a TV it's not a TV specific program, right? It's sports with broadcasting, right?
Nick VinZant 59:39
This is, again, I think, an instance of where, like, you're maybe, technically you have a point, and technically you have something, but you're everybody just kind of knows that you're wrong. No,
John Shull 59:47
I bet you, if you were to pull the audience, they would be on my side. And if not, I don't care. I've literally offended half of America.
Nick VinZant 59:56
Oh, well, why stop at half? I. I What's on your honorable mention? What's on your honorable mention? So
John Shull 1:00:04
I didn't have Game of Thrones on there.
Unknown Speaker 1:00:09
The I don't know where my
John Shull 1:00:11
list went. I'm going to try to remember this, The Sopranos. I see I had the office the West Wing. Trailer Park Boys, Trailer Park Boys are hilarious. I'm
Nick VinZant 1:00:24
sure they are, but that's not a quotable TV show. No way, in any way. But okay,
John Shull 1:00:31
yeah, that's kind of it. If I can recall
Nick VinZant 1:00:33
the other ones that I had that you didn't have, Futurama
John Shull 1:00:39
king of the future Rama,
Nick VinZant 1:00:42
did you say the office? Yeah, I said the office. Office. I would say that is up there. I saw some lists online that were like talking about quotable TV shows. Flea bag was on there. I've never, I think I watched one episode of that and just couldn't get into it. So I don't have any other ones.
John Shull 1:01:00
Never even heard of it. Well,
Nick VinZant 1:01:03
get some culture in class. Okay, I'm gonna stop it if
Unknown Speaker 1:01:06
yes, some may,
Nick VinZant 1:01:10
did the rock ever specify exactly what he was cooking?
John Shull 1:01:13
Not yet. Maybe someday. Oh, okay,
Nick VinZant 1:01:16
that's gonna go ahead and do it for this episode of Profoundly Pointless. I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance, leave us a quick review. We really appreciate it really helps us out and let us know what you think is the most quotable TV show, I think, except for John's wrestling, which we'll just put that aside, I think you could make an argument, a strong argument for Seinfeld, South Park, SpongeBob, Simpsons, even the wire as some of the as the number one most quotable TV show. There's a lot you can make an argument for, so let us know what you think you.