From Robots and Androids to Planes and Phones, Technosexuals are attracted to technology. We talk technosexuality, robot lovers and more with Technosexuals, Mandroid Exotica and Robo Grrl. Then, it’s towels and books vs. t-shirts and pictures as we countdown the Top 5 Hardest Things to Get Rid Of.
Mandroid Exotica and Robo Grrl: 01:14
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Top 5 Hardest Things to Get Rid Of: 36:45
Interview with Technosexuals Mandroid Exotica and Robo Grrl
Nick VinZant 0:00
Nick, welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick VinZant Coming up in this episode techno sexuality and things you just can't get rid of.
Mandroid Exotica 0:23
Honestly, I'm going to say far back is happening. Like I'm talking four years old. There was an episode of Dennis, the menace that I was fascinated, absolutely fascinated.
Robo Grrl 0:35
Every time I get accustomed, they each want their own thing. I think in general, glitching is a big part of
Mandroid Exotica 0:46
it. There was someone in my Discord who was really attracted to airplanes.
Nick VinZant 0:53
I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance subscribe, leave us a rating or review. We really appreciate it really helps us out. So I want to get right to our first guests. This is Robo girl and Mandroid Exotica. They live a techno sexual lifestyle. What is a techno sexual so
Robo Grrl 1:15
techno sexual is someone who is sexually aroused by robots, technology, technological approaches to having sex.
Mandroid Exotica 1:27
For me, it's more leans towards androids. That means robots that actually look human and have just basically it's more of a roboticness to them. It's an uncanniness that's what works for me.
Nick VinZant 1:43
Was this something you just realized one day, or did this kind of develop
Robo Grrl 1:48
for me? It was like, I developed my skills in robotic movement over time, but then falling into the Fetish was like, literally, one day, someone DM me on Instagram, and was like, Have you heard of this thing called asfr? And I was, I was curious, started looking it up, and then just started making content.
Speaker 1 2:13
Asfr stands for what all sex fetish
Robo Grrl 2:16
robot, and that's my specific fetish that I make content for.
Nick VinZant 2:22
So for yourself, like in Android, when did you kind of realize that this was your jam? So to speak,
Mandroid Exotica 2:29
honestly, I'm going to say far back as like, I'm talking four years old. There was an episode of Dennis, the menace, that I was fascinated, absolutely fascinated by there was an Android that one of his friends made. But then I don't know what age it was. I was probably 14 when I realized it was sexual. And then I'm 16, I saw the movie virtuosity, and the Android bartender was the first time that it got me.
Speaker 1 3:09
So I guess you know, what is it about it,
Nick VinZant 3:14
right? Like, what is it about a robot that is sexually arousing, or technology that is sexual, sexually arousing to you.
Mandroid Exotica 3:22
For me is it's the the thought of control. There's there's one aspect of it, there's the non judgmental factor of it, where you feel like you can do anything and not be judged about and it's the the uh, it's the the motion of it, like the robot, the uncanniness of a person who's moving robotically, or the idea of that there's, there's machinery under someone's skin, and it's just, you know, this is all a ruse to fool you into thinking it's a person. So yeah, and I hate to say the word, I don't like using the word mindless, but I really can't really like get the word other than I can't think of another word, but it's the mindlessness of them where, like, I, you know, some people like conscious robots. I'm not one. So, you know, I like program personality, but I don't like actual personality, if that makes sense, like if it's a person. I mean, if a robot has consciousness, it might as well be a person. That's what I guess I'm trying to say, and it doesn't work. So, like,
Robo Grrl 4:50
I definitely agree with the uncanny valley kind of effect. There's sort of like, that jump that, that gap between reality. T and fantasy, and the way that your brain is constantly trying to make sense of things, and it doesn't like that sort of gap is, like, very attractive. And like, I, you know, having, like, a sort of, like, dead, dead eye kind of thing where you're off, but you're on.
Mandroid Exotica 5:21
You're not particularly looking at anything. It's just right.
Robo Grrl 5:25
Your eyes are just working. Oh, don't
Mandroid Exotica 5:28
forget, Robo girl, that malfunctioning is a huge malfunctioning
Robo Grrl 5:32
glitching, which, like I it can be a mix of verbal glitching, like stuttering or like movement stuttering or misunderstanding, uh, direction. That's a that's definitely a big thing. Um, also being destroyed, either partially or fully. I
Nick VinZant 5:53
mean, the how does this like work in a relationship? Does it work in relationships?
Mandroid Exotica 5:59
For me, it doesn't. So I'm still single. More or less. I'm not going to say I'm a virgin because I had sex, but, like, not good sex, if that makes sense,
Nick VinZant 6:12
not the kind of thing that gets you going, Yeah, that
Mandroid Exotica 6:15
gets me, like, turned on and going. I'm always just speaking. So it just, but anyway,
Robo Grrl 6:25
I got you
Mandroid Exotica 6:26
but for sexy, there are people that are in relationships with someone who is, I guess you would say, a sub and a DOM. The DOM usually has the control over the robot. Now I know someone who wants a DOM robot who wants to be able to control him but also have them dominate, which is, it's wild to think. I don't know how you're going to be able to get that, but, you know, fingers crossed. But yeah,
Unknown Speaker 6:58
that's what I was going to say. Is
Nick VinZant 6:59
like, because we've interviewed people from all kinds of lifestyles, and this one jumps out at me is like, oh, but how does that work in real life?
Robo Grrl 7:05
You know, I never find a shortage of people who want to be an actor in it. They like, think it's so interesting and fun and and sort of like this way to make a sexual scene without even being sexual. You know, once you as, as specific as people are with their what they're attracted to in this fetish, it can also be combined with anything, you know, like, like the giant test fetish. It could be like a robot giant or a robot dominatrix, or a robot Vin DOM or robot terminatrix, like you look at robot in front of anything, and it can be part of the fetish, so yeah, and
Mandroid Exotica 7:43
some people actually can have someone acting completely human, and all it is is they just say that they're a robot, and that's enough. And you know, that's not for me, but you know that is definitely something that someone could get turned on by, just like, you know, I have circuitry inside me and this that the other just, that's dirty
Robo Grrl 8:07
talk. It is. There's like, a lot of like, like, sci fi babble, or techno babble is sort of the term for
Unknown Speaker 8:16
it. Can you give me, like, an example? Like, I don't know how
Mandroid Exotica 8:19
I can give you an example. I had an ex boyfriend who would act it out every once in a while. So like, you know, it's, I have a scenario. I actually drew a little comic of it where I think you've seen it, right, Robo girl, but yes, come home and he's, he's there washing the dishes. He's like, he's kind of uncanny, and he's, you know, stilted in the way that he moves. And, you know, it's just like a hell of money. And I push a button in, well, can I say these things
Speaker 2 8:55
you already started? Might as well finish. He might as well just keep going, man,
Mandroid Exotica 9:02
well, I push a button in his anal port, let's just say that, and he switches over to sex mode. And then, you know, he's really just kind of an empty and he, he just stiffens up and basically turns into a sex doll,
Nick VinZant 9:19
whatever, whatever you want to do, man, do what you want to do. Right? Like, do what you want to do. Is there a stigma to it, though, right? Like, do people within the lifestyle, like, do they give me some leeway in the words, right? Because I don't know how to say this without just saying this, do people even in the lifestyle? Do they like, Oh, this is kind of weird. I think you know what I mean. In this, this, is there a stigma to it? Any people even in like, Oh, why? Why is this? Why is this? My thing?
Mandroid Exotica 9:51
I mean, I'll say this. I've asked myself that plenty of times. So you know, there's been times where it's like regular sense of you. Preferred, I would prefer to just be attracted to, if I'm going to be gay, be attracted to men, and that's it, you know, but that I have come to grips, or come to Yeah, grips with it, terms whatever, yeah, come to terms that this is who I am. So it's just kind of, I have to let it be what it is. I can't do anything about it. And it's not like, it's dangerous. So, yeah, do people get like, weirded out by it absolutely, like, that's outside of this the community, especially if you just tell somebody that you're into robots, they're totally confused. And then if you try to clarify, they think it's like, scary murder stuff, and it's like, I'm not trying to actually dig into your circuitry and break you. You know what I mean? Like,
Robo Grrl 10:59
I've, like, had the totally opposite experience, but, you know, being of love on everybody wants a fan bot. Like, it's, yeah, it's, I feel like the idea, and you see it more in pop culture, which you know could speak to just the overall patriarchy of having this mindless, obedient woman in your house doing as you believe. But that image is more common than seeing a Mandroid. I mean, the last time I really saw when I want to say in pop culture was this, like, amazing Michael B Jordan commercial. I think it's for Alexa. Yes. Okay, and, and that's like, what I when I'm trying to explain this fetish to people who've never seen it before, that's like, literally, what I show them, like, it's sort of like this. That's what I
Nick VinZant 11:49
was gonna say, is like, right? Okay, so how common is it? But you kind of it sounds like it's not, it's not super common.
Mandroid Exotica 11:55
Well, I say in the fin bot world, I feel like it's really common, but I don't think it's a known fetish. I think people think it's just, oh, it's just hot, yeah. But you know, when you see a man in that role, people are totally confused. And so you see that in commonly in women, but if you see a male one, it's very rare. And I can, I can give you a good example. The Stepford Wives is always subservient women, but they made a movie called The Stepford husbands. The Stepford husbands is not robots at all. It's just guys who have been brainwashed, and it's like, well, that's not the same. So, you know she, you know he's taking pills every night to be subservient. It was like, you couldn't have, you know, gone the same way. Are
Nick VinZant 12:56
you ready for some harder slash? Listener, submitted questions.
Robo Grrl 13:00
Oh, listen. Submitted question. I didn't know submitted questions best
Nick VinZant 13:04
techno sexual movie, like a movie that people were like, oh, that's I didn't know that about myself until I saw that movie.
Mandroid Exotica 13:12
I would say for me, people generally go for the not quite human trilogy.
Robo Grrl 13:21
Oh, yeah, not
Mandroid Exotica 13:23
quite human. One featured a male Android. Of course, all of them feature that statement. But the second one features a male and a feed, and then the second the third one features what random. So just, I would say that that is but I would say, as a millennial, that's probably what it did. But the one that stood out for me the most was probably the virtuosity robot. These days, this year, I would say, companions. One of my favorites are there
Nick VinZant 13:59
aspects of the lifestyle, where somebody might be attracted to inanimate objects, like the new iPhone, is just ooh, that is
Robo Grrl 14:09
I've done. I heard of a lady who has this for real. She was like on TV, or she's attracted to roller coasters.
Mandroid Exotica 14:17
I saw the guy that was that was sexually attracted to his car, and the car, quote, unquote, died, and so he kept the hood to it that. But I don't know. I wouldn't categorize that in techno sexuality, but maybe it is. It's somewhere in there. And I just don't know, there was someone in my Discord who was really attracted to airplanes. And, I mean, I couldn't relate to it, so I didn't really have anything to say when he would say things about it. And eventually he left, because no one had that, that too. So, yeah,
Unknown Speaker 14:58
that's got, like, I don't just know. What's,
Nick VinZant 15:00
I don't know what to say to you. Like, look at the new, look at the new Boeing, 737, like
Unknown Speaker 15:06
school,
Mandroid Exotica 15:10
but, I mean, it's technology, so techno sexually, like I said, it's inspection. So there's somebody out there. It's just not us.
Unknown Speaker 15:18
Um, that's
Nick VinZant 15:19
pretty much all the questions we guys, or anything else you think that we missed, or anything you'd like to add,
Mandroid Exotica 15:25
well, I would say, Well, the way that we get content is a big one for us. Getting content is hard. Obviously, I spend major hours, uh, surfing the net, trying to find out scenes, movies. I'm gonna tell you this, right? Uh, I've told this to plenty of people who send me things. If you send it to me, more often than not, I've already seen it. I'm gonna say 90% 96% of the time I've already seen that's how bad it is for
Robo Grrl 16:07
me. Got it down? Bad. You down. Bad. You don't
Mandroid Exotica 16:10
even know it's crazy. Sometimes I do think about that and I'm like, Man, I need to see somebody.
Speaker 1 16:19
There's not specific, like pornography for it for
Mandroid Exotica 16:23
females, absolutely, yeah, but male stuff is very rare, and actually, that's how I ended up starting Mandarin Exotica. I started trying to make my own Robo girl.
Nick VinZant 16:36
What would you say is your most frequent request?
Robo Grrl 16:39
Every time I get a custom they each want their own thing. I think in general, glitching is a big part of it. So I usually get some kind of request for glitch act, actually acting robotic, like no vocal tone, like really being an object and play and just playing that to the best of my ability, those, those are the my two most common, I would say, like they're common. It don't matter what kind of thing I'm getting asked to do, I
Nick VinZant 17:20
want to thank Mandroid and Robo girls so much for joining us. If you want to connect with them, we have linked to them on our social media sites. We're Profoundly Pointless on Tiktok, Instagram and YouTube, and we've also included their information in the episode description. And if you want to see more of this interview, the YouTube version will be live on April 10, at 12:30pm Pacific. Okay, now let's bring in John Shull and get to the pointless part of the show. How would do you think most people would describe you weird, normal or cool?
John Shull 18:00
Normal? Probably,
Nick VinZant 18:03
hmm, which one of those do you feel like you lean to though Pro,
John Shull 18:07
I mean, probably towards the cooler side. I think it's
Nick VinZant 18:11
pretty hard to say that when you have Spice Girls album behind you,
John Shull 18:14
maybe that makes me featured Alex. I'm i It's up there because my daughters wanted to be on display like that maybe makes me cool in some people's eyes, because I'm a good dad,
Nick VinZant 18:27
I would say, I mean, definitely in the grand scheme of things, like in the grand scheme of things, I'm a normal person in the groups of people that I, net generally run with, though, I would say I'm more towards the quirky or weird side.
John Shull 18:48
I mean, like, personally, yes, of course, I'm weird. And I, you know, we've, we've talked about it on this podcast. Like, you know, I do, I do, like, table top gaming, and, you know, and, blah, blah, blah. Like, does that make me weird? Like, it's not like, I'm in my basement torturing ferrets. You know what I mean? Like, which some people do. Like, that's weird. I
Nick VinZant 19:07
really love flavored drinks. I don't think that there's anything that I really enjoy more than flavored drinks. I will basically do anything I can to avoid drinking water. I have to be incredibly thirsty before I'll actually just drink plain water. I mean,
John Shull 19:24
I have one of those water bottles with the, you know, the leaders on it, or whatever the the outside, one
Nick VinZant 19:30
of those people like you type like a race. I definitely,
John Shull 19:33
as I get older, that you like hydration is important, like,
Unknown Speaker 19:39
but this is, I
Nick VinZant 19:40
think this is a scam. I think this whole thing is a scam. This whole hydration thing is a scam. Because, like, when we were growing up, nobody hydration wasn't important at all. Like, nobody mentioned the idea of drinking water. Water was something that you water was something that you drank, like, every three days when I. Was growing up. Like, every three days somebody like, the solution for everything wasn't to drink water, and now the solution for everything is to drink water. Like, hey, my leg is falling off because I got in a car accident. How's your hydration? You gotta hydrate.
John Shull 20:17
It's, I think, like anything through time, we've learned, you know, we've learned things science, science has proven things, and I think it's proven that if you're hydrated, that could mean a lot of good things for you. I'm just saying
Nick VinZant 20:30
it was a big it wasn't a big deal when we were young, hydration, what's the guy?
John Shull 20:34
I just don't think it was on the forefront. Like, what was big when we were young, people still thought smoking was okay. Like, actual cigarettes.
Nick VinZant 20:42
Oh, I remember people smoking in the house. I remember, like, people smoking in the house.
John Shull 20:48
God, love it. My my own father still smokes in his house. Oh, yeah.
Nick VinZant 20:51
I mean, that's one of those things. Like, you shouldn't do that. You really like, I don't think that people who are much younger than us, people who are in their 20s, probably don't realize how prevalent smoking was, like, that's something that really phased out, really phased out.
John Shull 21:11
I will say this, that one of our one of our favorite bars in Orlando, was a basement bar, or at least one of my favorite
Speaker 1 21:18
bars, tangerines, baby, who I told my wife I loved her.
John Shull 21:21
I don't even know if, oh, really, that's yeah, probably for every that doesn't matter. I just don't think I, you know, thinking back on it, you walk down there in a cloud of smoke, you spend hours of other people smoking, you know, and if you didn't have them yourself, and then you went home and it just, yeah, it was a great time. But at the same time, I'm alright with cigarettes being banned in bars and whatnot.
Nick VinZant 21:47
Yeah? I mean, that's probably an overall, generally a good thing, okay, but that,
John Shull 21:51
that's the water thing. Like we learn, and I think we've learned throughout the years that having hydration is important.
Nick VinZant 21:59
Oh, so this is pretty this is pretty evenly split. Honestly, I polled the audience, 38% of people would describe themselves as weird. 25% would describe themselves as cool, and 38% would describe themselves as normal. I think by the fact that people are voting to describe themselves as cool, that's a little weird, so automatically they get pushed into the weird category. So most people are weird, but I would rather, much rather deal with like weird people than normal people. I got no problem with weird people. Gonna
John Shull 22:32
start the shout outs with a couple of jacks here. Jack Evans, Jack Shanahan, Ivana McFarlane, Casey Sutherland, Brendan O'Leary. I always feel like when you see an O apostrophe last name, just that just puts them in two different category for me, Ayanna Adcock, Isabella Isabel. I don't know if that's an actual name, but wait, their name is Isabella Isabel. Yeah, that would be a little little weird, but whatever you the YouTube never lies. Mike McCabe,
Unknown Speaker 23:08
Dave,
John Shull 23:12
where was I? Dave Martinez, Jacob hertz, Naz Keaney and Jude Grayson. That was
Nick VinZant 23:18
like 30 people.
John Shull 23:20
No, that was 10. That
Nick VinZant 23:22
was seemed like a lot more than 10. I'm working on
John Shull 23:26
not being weird and just evening things out, you know, slowing down the way I talk.
Speaker 1 23:31
Okay, how's that going for you? It's very it's very good. It's very great. All right,
John Shull 23:38
would you say speaking is difficult for
Nick VinZant 23:40
you? No, no, that's actually for me, something that I've fairly good at is communicating succinctly and effectively.
Mandroid Exotica 23:50
Sure are you? Yep,
John Shull 23:53
uh, let's see, do you watch White Lotus?
Nick VinZant 23:56
I usually do. I don't. Okay. Let me ask you if this, if you think this is odd, I will watch 30 to 40, sometimes even 70% of a TV series and then just stop watching it like the penguin, which I thought was incredible. It was amazing like Colin Farrell should be nominated for Oscar, Oscar of the world right after I said, I right after I said, I have a gift for speaking effectively and clearly.
John Shull 24:26
Oscar of the world. Yeah, Oscar of the world,
Nick VinZant 24:29
all I've probably watched, let's say there's eight episodes. I don't know how many there actually is. I think I watched six of them, and then just stop watching it. I watched all of Breaking Bad, except for the last five episodes. I never watched the end of Breaking Bad, and watched it all the way up to the fifth season, and then never watched it again.
John Shull 24:50
I mean, it makes i i don't even know what to say, but like, why would you put in the the commitment to not see it through? I was done. That was done. I.
Unknown Speaker 25:01
But
John Shull 25:02
why? There's why,
Nick VinZant 25:04
why I watched five and a half seasons of Breaking Bad and then I just was done. I never watched the end of it, like I couldn't handle it. And I just have no desire to watch it again at all. I have no desire to finish the season the series.
John Shull 25:17
Sounds like you have a problem finishing things.
Nick VinZant 25:20
I mean, I do have two children, so obviously not,
John Shull 25:24
well, two out of how many other times? I mean, that's not a great ratio. Oh,
Nick VinZant 25:28
yeah. Listen, we only caught. Listen, you only need to succeed a couple of times. Okay.
John Shull 25:34
I mean, you're, I have two children as well that I think are mine, so I understand what you're saying. Uh, speak, I'm not decent people, and I really don't want to spend a lot of time on this. Lot of time on this, but I did feel like this was worth the reaction from you. Russell Brand,
Nick VinZant 25:49
oh, that's just one of those people that, like, Yep, I'm not surprised. Yeah,
John Shull 25:52
right. Like, yeah, surprised me. And if you're, if you're not aware out there, he was slapped with, I don't know, I don't know how many, I think at least double digit rape and sexual assault allegations, which, once again, not anything proven yet. But, you know, I think if you just know anything of him, you're kind of like, yeah, it's probably some of it's probably a little true,
Nick VinZant 26:13
yeah. I mean, you saw that coming. As soon as people kind of make that turn where they start to really buy into either a political or a social agenda, like, here it comes, and here it comes right? Like, because I think you kind of lose your mind a little bit in order to make a big turn like that, whichever direction you turn. And then that comes along with other consequences as well. Like, people don't make big changes like that and just only change in one area, like, no, they kind of go south in all kinds of areas at the same time. Well,
John Shull 26:44
then it got me thinking someone that I haven't thought of in a while. I'm like, I wonder what did he's doing now? Because got God dang right. I mean, you want to talk about somebody and his crimes are super serious, so I don't want to, like, laugh, and people out there think I'm not being serious. But, you know, you think of a guy that was on top of the world, and it's like, now noone, like, noone even he's gone. And everyone's like, okay, he's gone. Who cares? Like,
Nick VinZant 27:09
I just fascinated by, like, how people make that mistake, you know, like, how can you make this such a huge, obvious mistake that throws all of this away?
John Shull 27:22
You know? Well, I think it is. I think in his case, it wasn't just a mistake, it was mistakes.
Nick VinZant 27:28
Yeah, like, how do you keep doing that? Like, wow, I probably shouldn't be doing this highly illegal thing when I'm a very public figure and have a lot to lose.
John Shull 27:38
I mean, well, he was never a billionaire, but I think he definitely had more money than he ever probably needed, or whatever. You know. Oh, no, yeah. Now it doesn't matter. Let's get to the in memory part of the show, because someone that 300 million that we need to talk about. Rip Valkyrie,
Nick VinZant 28:01
I watched tombstone last night. That's an he, he's an actor that should have gotten more credit for the things that he did.
John Shull 28:11
Yeah, I so obviously I'm a huge tombstone blah, blah, blah fan. I didn't realize. So he gets a lot of discredit for the island of Doctor Moreau, I think was the movie, yeah, well, I don't think which kind of, like, crushed his career in the late 90s. They say he was served with divorce papers while shooting a scene, and then apparently went down a spiral and blah, blah, blah, and, like, you know, not that it's an excuse. But I when you look at his run from like, the mid 80s to the mid 90s. I mean, the dude was freaking Batman. I think people forget that he
Nick VinZant 28:46
did have a good run. There's not a lot of other actors you could put a run like that. I mean, together, he had tombstone, Top Gun,
John Shull 28:58
heat, heat. There's another one in there that I'm missing, of course. And then he finished out with Batman. And then they wanted to bring him back for another Batman movie, and he turned it down. I was reading like he turned down Batman, which, I don't know if that's a that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it's
Nick VinZant 29:15
not your thing. He seemed more artistic of an actor. There was another movie that he was in that was really good.
John Shull 29:20
Well, he did the the doors is Jim Morrison, which was pretty
Nick VinZant 29:25
that's a thing that I don't ever care about. I've never cared about the doors or, like the who, or any of some kinds of rock bands from like the 1970s the kind of like stoner acid, LSD time, bands like The who care about that. I
John Shull 29:49
don't know if I want to say this, but I'm gonna say this because you know that I do it. I don't mind a little criticism, especially from you. LED Zepp. One and Pink Floyd to me, though I I appreciate what they've done. I don't know why they became the monster global bands that they were.
Nick VinZant 30:11
I don't actually know any of their songs.
John Shull 30:15
I guess you do. You know Stairway to Heaven. Oh,
Nick VinZant 30:18
but I don't like it like, I know it Led Zeppelin, the who even the Rolling Stones, I don't really care about, the Grateful Dead. Like, okay,
John Shull 30:32
it's all right. I mean, it was just a, there was just a small, you know, era of music that they made some good music. It's just obviously, nowadays it's all country, right, or whatever. It's all country, pop or hiccup. They think they call it too. Nowadays. Was that a thing? Think it is a thing? Um, Alright, moving on. Here. Was reading a study, and I was kind of shocked by this.
Nick VinZant 30:59
Were you reading a study, or were you reading an article about a study? Like, I don't think you were reading a study. You were sitting there looking papers. Okay, exactly. Let's not listen.
John Shull 31:09
This was on the Daily Mail, and the study was done by some independent firm in America, in the UK, about streaming services that the average person because, you know, we're all cable cutters, right? Our generation and the generation below us, like no one has cable but apparently,
Unknown Speaker 31:27
according to study,
John Shull 31:30
our generation and others have at least seven streaming services that we subscribe to. Yeah, on average,
Nick VinZant 31:43
we've basically, like, we got rid of cable, and then kind of got cable at the same time where we paid for everything. No, I have but see, here's the thing where it gets misleading, is that some of them come as packaged deals, or you get them through your phone or something like that, right? We have Netflix, HBO, that's it. No, Netflix HBO, Hulu, Amazon Prime.
John Shull 32:10
I mean, I have those you throw in Disney plus, oh, we have Disney plus too. See, now you're already up to five, but
Nick VinZant 32:17
somehow, but some of them you get through other services, like, we have Amazon Prime, so we get Amazon Prime so, like, you're not specifically paying for that thing. And I think that that's kind of like if you're just straight up paying for six or seven of them, that's kind of crazy. It's not like included as part of a deal as something else. Which
John Shull 32:38
leads me to a small rant here that noone cares about, but I have to give it 30 seconds, and that is baseball. You suck. Major League Baseball, you suck. And I don't know why you want to charge people $140 for a season package of MLB TV. And we still don't get our local teams because they're blacked out. It makes no sense. It's 2025 figure this shit out.
Nick VinZant 33:02
I mean, I think they did figure that. They did figure it out. That's why they're getting all that money from it, right? It's not that their decision doesn't make any sense. It's that their decision is all about them making the most amount of money. It makes perfect sense to you, and the decision that they made is they don't really care about you. They'd much rather just make money. They don't care about what you want. This. This is the my whole brand with the economy. It's not about providing you with a service. It's about finding out how much money we can get out of you. We've stopped providing services to people. We now just try to figure out how to get in their pocket.
John Shull 33:34
Well, I would let them get in my pocket. They could play in my pocket, but I need to be able to watch my home team without having to pay for a separate, you know, service. Anyways, it's a whole thing.
Nick VinZant 33:45
I'm just the point of watching baseball. It's the most boring story. It's the most boring thing. Why don't you just want look at the my wall back here? Like, oh, look at that. Paint moves about as interesting as baseball. It's the most boring sport in the world. But baseball is so boring. The there's no way. There is no way that I could on TV, watch baseball for more than seven minutes before I fell asleep. How long could you legitimately watch baseball before you fall asleep.
John Shull 34:22
You know, with the pitch clock that they have now, and games are two hours to three hours, and they're not, you know, three to four hour marathons anymore. I mean, I watch old games.
Nick VinZant 34:32
You sit there and you're like watching the game. I
John Shull 34:35
mean, not during the day with my children, but I watch replays at night. I mean, not the
Nick VinZant 34:40
same thing I wanted. We are watching the game in the middle of the day.
John Shull 34:47
I mean, if I get a chance, I absolutely would sit there and watch an entire I mean, I did it last year when the Tigers, Detroit Tigers were in the playoffs. Watched every one of those games.
Nick VinZant 34:57
I don't think that I can name you who won the. World Series. I
Unknown Speaker 35:04
couldn't tell you. It's
John Shull 35:06
all I will say. And I get, I get why people think baseball is boring, but technically and strategically, it's one of the greatest sports in the world. Okay, sure, yeah, so that doesn't always translate to excitement, and that's fine. Okay, let me ask you this, because
Nick VinZant 35:21
I have this because I had this conversation with somebody this weekend of the four main professional sports. Wait, let me start. Zoe, okay, of the four main professional sports, hockey, baseball, football, basketball, which one could you not name all professional teams?
John Shull 35:43
I mean, I can i for all four, but I would say the one that I probably have would have the hardest time with is probably going to be basketball.
Nick VinZant 35:53
I think I could do football and basketball. I don't think I could do baseball. I definitely couldn't do hockey.
John Shull 36:02
Yeah, I, I for sure could do hockey. I Yeah, baseball, football, easy, like I said, I can do them all, but basketball, you know, I have to think a little bit just because they have. You know, teams have moved around in the last decade.
Nick VinZant 36:15
So okay, like the Cincinnati
Unknown Speaker 36:19
Reds. What's the hockey team?
John Shull 36:22
They don't have a hockey team and they have the Ohio jackets. What's Ohio's hockey team? Columbus? Blue Jackets.
Speaker 1 36:31
Okay, does Cleveland have a team? They have a baseball team. Okay, all right.
John Shull 36:38
Anyways, let's move on to our top five. Oh, I'm getting interested to see
Nick VinZant 36:43
what you're going to be in your top five. So our top five is top five hardest things to throw away, like you need to get rid of this thing, but you just can't STDs are not included in the list.
John Shull 36:56
Okay?
Speaker 1 36:59
My number five, pretty simple books. Oh,
Nick VinZant 37:07
I have that a little bit higher in the list. Oh,
John Shull 37:09
wow, yeah, I can't throw away. I mean, I have, I haven't thrown away a book, or recycled the book or given away a book in, I don't know, probably since I've been an adult. So my
Nick VinZant 37:24
number five is birthday cards. I can never get myself to throw away a birthday card, even if it's from, like, someone I don't really even know. I keep it just I can. I just can't get myself to throw away birthday cards. I got, like, stacks of them that I'll never ever look at again. But like, No, I'm getting throw it away. It's, it's a birthday card.
John Shull 37:45
Someone took the time to give it to me or mail it to me. Like,
Nick VinZant 37:49
who's Jesse Plemons? No idea. Well, I mean, Jesse, somebody's actually somebody famous, right? But he, I didn't get to believe that he
John Shull 37:57
liked, got famous. But anyways, uh, that's a pretty good actor. Oh, we could
Nick VinZant 38:02
do that, like, top five actors. You're surprised they became famous. He would be on that list.
John Shull 38:06
I mean, he'd be pretty damn close, yeah, it's like, he's
Nick VinZant 38:11
a famous actor, yeah, like, it's actually done really well, right? It's like finding out they're selling Mercedes Benz for 20 grand. Like, when was this
John Shull 38:22
tariffs? What my number four is, like, collectible glasses, you know, like, just, you know, you go to a tourist hot spot and you get a shot glass or a glass for five bucks, 10 bucks before you know it, you have like, 50 of them. And for some reason I just, I just, I can't let them go. For me, it's like, going to a brewery and getting like a pint glass, or like a snifter glass or something. I just can't, I can't let go.
Nick VinZant 38:50
I can't, I can't sympathize with this in any way, because that's something I would never, ever buy. I would never be like, I'm gonna get a shot glass from my trip to Boise, Idaho. I
John Shull 39:02
mean, oh, I mean, I will say it is. It has led to some stories, like, when I have, you know, friends over, if I'm drinking and you pull out a pint glass, like, Oh, hey, I remember this brewery, like, you know, blah, blah, blah. But other than that, I mean, they just kind of sit on the shelf.
Nick VinZant 39:18
My number four is clothes, especially a t shirt, because a t shirt, to me, can go through so many life cycles, like it can be my nice shirt, my work shirt, my casual shirt, my workout shirt, then, like the mowing the lawn shirt, and then it's a rag. I would say it probably takes me probably 25 years to get rid of a T shirt. That's not an exaggeration. The life cycle of a T shirt in my house is probably 20 to 25 years.
John Shull 39:49
I can, I can, you know, I can attest to that for you. I've, I mean, I've
Nick VinZant 39:54
got a shirt right? I've got shirts right now that I wear, that I wore in college in 2003 i.
John Shull 40:01
I mean, so do I, but I can't even I can't fit into him like you can. So congratulations to you for that. Oh,
Nick VinZant 40:06
that is kind of an accomplishment, if you think about it. Yeah, dude, we're
John Shull 40:09
20 plus years later, and if you can still fit in, you know, to medium from college you're doing. Well,
Nick VinZant 40:15
I'm gonna fill it out a little bit more in certain spots, but I'm still fitting into it. Okay? It's number three.
John Shull 40:20
Yeah, you do well that that definitely didn't go over. Yeah, still, I thought it was my stone wall. Yep, you definitely stopped right there. Alright, my number three on things that, for some reason I just can't get rid of or throw away, our action figures. I I just don't work. I just, you know, I just can't. I love, I mean, I have a display case of of figures in my basement, like, I just can't, yeah, can't let go. They remind me of so much.
Unknown Speaker 41:01
My number three is books.
Nick VinZant 41:04
I have no like, why would you ever keep a book? Like, I'm never going to read and or look at this thing again, but I'll keep a book.
John Shull 41:14
Yeah. I mean, once again, it was on my list. Number five, the thing, I actually go back sometimes and reread them so, like, they're there for a reason. Once, it's kind of like the shot or the pint glasses. For me, it's like, oh, I, you know, I read that book. I remember it. Blah, blah, blah, you know, it's just, I don't know. Just don't want to let you go. I would
Nick VinZant 41:32
never reread a book like I read it one time. I would never spend like, 10 hours doing something and be like, you know, I'm gonna do
John Shull 41:38
that again, dude. I I listen. I know you make fun of me for reading one thing, I haven't read one book about submarines yet this year. And secondly, my wife is approaching 100 books read already this year. What? How's it even possible? Cuz she, I, yeah, I know. I know
Nick VinZant 41:55
you need to be wondering how, what she's doing with her time.
John Shull 41:59
No, I've listened she, you know, she does her thing. Man, my number two are recipes, but, like, recipes that you printed out, you know, or something like that. Like, I don't know why that's funny. Like, there is no need for, like, a physical cookbook anymore, because everything you know is virtual. Maybe you haven't established it. Man, yeah, I just, I can't get rid of, like, you know, physical pieces of paper where I've scratched something down or printed something off, like, and they take up space in my kitchen. I just, just can't do it.
Nick VinZant 42:33
Okay. I don't have a single recipe for anything. I don't have a single recipe written down for anything.
John Shull 42:40
I'm sure your wife has a cookbook or something.
Nick VinZant 42:43
No, she has the internet, well, instructions on the back of the box. It's
John Shull 42:49
kind of my point is, you know, you don't necessarily need that anymore because of the adult and different apps they have. But I like it. I like pulling out the old piece of paper taking a look. My
Nick VinZant 43:01
number two is a towel. I would never throw away a towel. It would have to take an act of God to get me to throw away a towel, because that's just useful no matter what it can be the nice towel, then it can be the beach towel, then it can be like, Oh, use this towel to clean there's no way I'm getting rid of it. Is going to have to literally fall apart, to disintegrate. Is the only way I'm getting rid of a towel.
John Shull 43:23
Yeah, I think you're, I think you're right on that. I mean, we have towels here that are tattered, and I'm like, why do we have these things? And my wife will make up some excuse. It's the dog's towel, or it's the outside towel. You know, like,
Nick VinZant 43:34
you can't get rid of a towel. There's no reason to ever get rid of a towel. Somebody, I bet people who work at like, a dump, when they see a towel or, like, holy crap, somebody threw away a towel, and they probably take it home. I
John Shull 43:47
always, I do wonder that, and this is gonna sound gross, but like people who work in landfills, you know, do they ever? They probably take stuff right as stuff's getting processed through there? I'm sure they do. I
Nick VinZant 43:59
would think so. I mean, I wouldn't have a problem with it, like you want to, yeah, this.
John Shull 44:03
Mean, I wonder what the biggest get or got from a, like, landfill is, like, someone's like, Oh, that's a there's a duffel bag over there, let me open it, and has like, $10,000 cash
Nick VinZant 44:14
in there. I'm sure something like that has been found. I'm sure there's been things that have been found. People throughout What's number one, whatever
Speaker 1 44:21
want to shoot. Shoes. Oh,
John Shull 44:26
yeah, I, you know, I, I have this as I've gotten older, I have this really, like, old man syndrome in terms of, like, I will use shoes, kind of like your towel analogy, yeah, they'll, they'll start off nice, you know, or whatever. And then they'll become my lawn shoes. And then they'll become my outs, like my, like my outside walking shoes. And then, you know, they'll have a hole in the sole, or a hole in the, you know, like the shoe literally needs to be falling apart at its seams for me to to recycle it or throw it away.
Nick VinZant 44:57
I only see really the purpose for three. Pairs of shoes. You got your workout shoes, you got your regular shoes, and then you got your, like, mowing the lawn shoes. You should have no more than three pairs of shoes in your house.
John Shull 45:10
I mean, you need a I agree with you that you don't need that many shoes, pairs of shoes, but you need a pair of dress shoes. Need a pair of casual shoes, pair of flip flops, pair of summer shoes, pair of boots, right? I mean, summer
Nick VinZant 45:22
shoes, yeah, sorry, Mr. Fashion, like boat
John Shull 45:26
shoes, like, like loafers, almost. You need a pair of slippers. You need a pair of athletic shoes outside. I mean, yeah, you probably need a pair. You probably need a dozen different pairs of shoes. I
Nick VinZant 45:38
can give you five tops. I can't go beyond five. I can give you black dress shoes. I can give you brown dress shoes. I can give you casual shoes. I can give you workout shoes, and I give you mowing shoes. Other than that, you don't need flip flops. To me, don't really count as shoes. To be honest with you,
Mandroid Exotica 45:51
we'll go to get my boat shoes.
John Shull 45:52
You need a pair of slippers, right? I don't
Speaker 1 45:55
even count those shoes, though. The slippers. Do you have slippers?
John Shull 45:58
I love I love that slippers, those slippers in a row. Man, I love saying slippers. It's a great word. Man, I do. I agree. My
Nick VinZant 46:05
number one is pictures. I don't think I've ever thrown out a picture in my life. Like, if I have, for some reason, a picture in my phone of like, bread at the grocery store. Like, not gonna delete that might need that later. I might want to remember that time I went to the grocery store and got confused about which kind of bread I was going to get to I don't think I've ever thrown away a picture and deleting them is like, I have to really work at it.
John Shull 46:32
Oh no, I am other than the things we've kind of mentioned on my end. Like I'm, I'm a, I'm kind of a cut, cut, dry, repeat, kind of person, photos, text messages. I
Unknown Speaker 46:44
won't give it a text message. So heartbeat,
John Shull 46:48
how? How long do you have our conversation saved for years, years and years? No, I
Nick VinZant 46:53
usually delete them the week after. I'm not saving that space on my computer. I'll keep a voicemail. I do this. I keep a voicemail from anybody in my life. Make sure I have one voicemail from mom, one from dad, one from family members. Just in case
John Shull 47:13
you getting kind of Misty on us here, because I feel like that's what you're
Nick VinZant 47:17
doing. No, but it's a good idea. You should do it. You should have a voicemail from everybody in your life, just in case you want to hear, hear their voice again.
John Shull 47:25
Yours. Yours would be, well, that's what I have this podcast for. In case you go, that's what I have it for.
Nick VinZant 47:30
Oh, yeah, that's a good reason. Oh, okay, that's gonna go ahead and do it for this episode of Profoundly Pointless. I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance, leave us a quick review. We really appreciate it really helps out the show. I think we're gonna start trying to do live polls on the episodes. I'm just not entirely sure how that works, but look for that if you see it, let us know that means it worked. If you don't, well, means it didn't work. But also let us know what you think, what if for you is the hardest thing to get rid of you?