What really happens inside a Las Vegas Gentlemen’s club. “Daisy” has spent years working at some of Las Vegas most popular clubs. Go behind the pole and into the VIP sections as we talk making thousands in one night, unusual requests and life outside the club. Then, we unveil a new Candle of the Month and countdown the Top 5 Practical Superpowers.
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“Daisy”: 01:18
Pointless: 27:24
Candle of the Month: 42:14
Top 5 Practical Superpowers: 45:29
Interview with Las Vegas Exotic Dancer “Daisy”
Nick VinZant 0:12
Welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick VinZant. Coming up in this episode, exotic dancing, and practical superpowers,
"Daisy" 0:21
it was never something I saw myself doing or even thought about. But at that point, I was like, Well, how am I going to make this money in two, three days. So being almost like a little bit feminine, I had one guy, and he just like, so strange. He just wanted to sit on my lap, like, and for me to literally hold them like a child. I just think that once you get used to having this freedom and making so much money, it's just hard to go back to anything else.
Nick VinZant 0:47
I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance, subscribe, leave us a rating or review. We really appreciate it really helps us out. If you're a new listener, welcome to the show. If you're a longtime listener, thank you so much for all of your support. So our first guest is going to give us an inside look at what some of Las Vegas is busiest gentlemen clubs are really like, this is exotic dancer. Daisy, how'd you get started in this,
"Daisy" 1:20
you know, actually got started. Maybe about a couple months after I turned 18 It was my very first month, I got my own apartment, I was very proud of myself, I was working at a sushi place as a server. And then a couple of days before rent was due. I went to a party and so I'm broken into two of my windows, so I had to get those fixed. And then the day that I got those fixed, I parked in my apartment complex, but I parked in the spot over from my assigned parking spot. And someone called the tow truck on me and got my car towed. So between those two things, getting my car out of impound and fixing my windows, that was my rent money for the month, I called my mom and told her what happened. And she basically just said, like, you're an adult, figure it out. I don't know what to tell you. And I have tried friends, girlfriends who had danced, and it was never something I saw myself doing or even thought about. But at that point, I was like, Well, how am I gonna make this money in two, three days? So that night me and my girlfriend roommate went and auditioned at one of the clubs in Reno, where I had started, did
Nick VinZant 2:24
you like it? Or for you? Is this like, I gotta make money? And this is how I'm gonna do it.
"Daisy" 2:29
Um, at first, yeah. Very money motivated. Like I said, it was never something that I thought about doing. It was actually something that I kind of looked down on with my friends who did it. It just was like, oh, that's something I was doing. I wouldn't do that. But yeah, it's definitely very, I had no idea what I was getting myself into. I didn't even really know what a lap dance was. I thought that all the girls had made their money on stage, which is really quite the opposite of what it's like,
Nick VinZant 2:57
how do you just start doing it? Do you audition? Like, how do you go in there? They're just like, alright, you look this way. We like the way you look, go up there. Oh,
"Daisy" 3:06
I had no skills at all. But yeah, so most clubs do you have to do an audition, every audition for the club is different. Some they do make you go on stage and do a full set. Some you just go on stage for like 15 seconds, others you they just look at you and say you're hired or you put on a bikini and do like little walk for them. The club that I auditioned at for the first time, basically just looked at us and said, You guys are fine. I didn't go on stage, my first night dancing, they gave me a couple of shifts before they made me go on stage. You don't make most of your money from stage, especially here in Vegas. Like you go on stage maybe once a night if you go on stage, because how many girls there are. But I would say the biggest part of it is just being able to talk to people and find a common ground with them and relate with them. I would say talking is the biggest part of it.
Nick VinZant 3:56
Why is that? So then if you're not on the stage, you're just kind of walking around the club.
"Daisy" 4:02
Yeah, so you're walking around the club. Just talking with customers. And the biggest thing is trying to get them to do a VIP with you. So it's like a private
Nick VinZant 4:11
room. Now that what happens in the private room, here in Vegas,
"Daisy" 4:15
really not much can happen. There are cameras everywhere. They're very strict and on top of it, so it's really just a room that comes to the couch. They have to buy drinks. And I would say for me, I mostly do a lot of talking. But obviously the guys do like you to dance. But I try to talk as much as I can.
Nick VinZant 4:37
Do they seem to be there more for like physical attention? Are they really there in some ways just to kind of have somebody to talk to
"Daisy" 4:45
and my experience I feel like a lot of guys just really want the companionship, kind of half and half 5050 Are
Nick VinZant 4:52
you naturally pretty like I'm going to come up to somebody or did you really have to kind of learn that look at it like at a job? Um,
"Daisy" 4:58
yeah, you'd have I just have to force yourself to go up and talk to everyone. And I would say, for the first, at least like five people to go up to you, you're gonna get rejected. So just staying persistent and going through and just talking to every single person, like, not finding excuses not to talk to them. Because you really, you never know, it could be that one guy, and they might not look like they're gonna spend money, but you just can't judge a book by its cover, and then not staying with someone for too long. If they're not paying you. Can
Nick VinZant 5:27
you kind of size them up a little bit? Can you look at people and be like, Oh, that's a good one. I don't worry about that person. No,
"Daisy" 5:34
you really cannot judge a book by its cover. I'll see you guys Mike. Oh, look at the watch. They're wearing a look at the clothes they're wearing and walk up to them. But they don't want to spend a dime. And then I've walked up to people who don't look like they have much and they will spend more.
Nick VinZant 5:47
So how much like how much will you make in a good night?
"Daisy" 5:52
Um, I would say the most I've made in the club on a good night would be so it's all about getting people to tip you. Tips, tips, tips. I would say an average night here in sapphire would be like 800 to like 1500 in a night. Obviously, you do have slow nights, there have been nights where I went to work. Most of the time if I stay work the whole night, I'll make money but if I leave early like all I have left with 30 to 50 bucks before or even nothing. Yeah, that's average the most I've made and and I at the club would be probably be around like three to 4000.
Nick VinZant 6:28
That's really good money, though. It is. Yeah.
"Daisy" 6:31
But the thing is making good money like fast money like that is you make it fast, and you spend it fast, too. So just have to be really, really careful with not having that mindset. Oh, I'll make it back. I'll make it back. Because I feel like that's the mindset a lot of girls have.
Nick VinZant 6:45
Do they kind of get sucked into a trap? Yes,
"Daisy" 6:48
definitely. So when I first started dancing, I told myself that I wouldn't dance for more than two years, it wouldn't I would never be something that I relied on. And here I am. I'm 25 now so like seven, almost eight years later.
Nick VinZant 7:04
Yeah, that would be like the kind of the existential question, right? Like there's the money that you make, and that keep you from doing something that you might otherwise really want to do. Yeah,
"Daisy" 7:14
I don't why so? Yeah, I have I am license. I'm a licensed cosmetologist and I was working in a salon for three years. Mainly, the money is really good. But I would say like the part of it that really got me was just the freedom that comes with it. I can I don't have a schedule. No one's telling me when I have to be at work, I can leave work whenever I want. If I wanted to plan a trip tomorrow, I could. So just the freedom that comes with it.
Nick VinZant 7:43
Oh, so you don't have like a schedule like you don't like hey, come nine to two or something like that you just whenever you want.
"Daisy" 7:49
Whenever Yeah, I know there are some clubs that do give you like a little bit of schedule or like a time you can check in. But all the clubs that I have worked out is you can show up whenever you want and leave whenever you want. The only thing is that you have to pay a house fee to work at the beginning of the night, which can range from anywhere from like 50 to $150.
Nick VinZant 8:08
You have to pay the place to work. Yes.
"Daisy" 8:12
So that's what a lot of customers don't think or realize is we're paying dancers more to be there than the customers to get in. Why is that? It's just the way that the club makes money. So the club that I work at is really good. We pay a house at the beginning of the night, but we keep all of our money. So we tip at our own discretion. So any of the floor dances that we do our VIP dances that we do we keep all of that the way the club makes the money as our house fees and the drinks basically.
Nick VinZant 8:41
So how competitive is it to get into like the really good clubs in Vegas? For a dancer for a dancer? Getting
"Daisy" 8:48
in isn't the hard part but definitely in Las Vegas. There's just so many so so many girls who are all so so beautiful. Every girl here no hair, nails body done everything. It's all it's a big competition. Especially at the club. I work here in Vegas is really very large. There can be anywhere from like two to 400 girls working at night.
Nick VinZant 9:10
400 people working a night. Yeah. How do you even compete with that debt?
"Daisy" 9:16
It's it's really really very difficult. I would say um, if a girl has something that makes him stand out, it's helpful like for example my hair guys really liked my hair at the blonde and the brunette so it's like two on one kind of
Nick VinZant 9:31
is all the competition between the girls kind of on the up and up or like you got to be a little you got to be a little sly. There
"Daisy" 9:39
can be a little bit but what the clubs here in Vegas there's also so many clients and customers and business to go around that I haven't I've never personally had any issues with girls. Maybe you get kind of irritated like if a girl overstepped her boundaries. Like if you're sitting on a guy's ever seen in a guy's laboratory. No, my girl isn't going to typically go up and like try to steal from you. So there's etiquette that girls I pretty follow. There's definitely girls who are a bit more aggressive and overstep boundaries. But it's something that I've had an issue or really seen issues of
Nick VinZant 10:11
when we talk about like the VIP rooms and the lap dances. Is there anything else that goes on in there? Or is it Vegas
"Daisy" 10:18
is really strict. There's cameras everywhere, there's cameras on the floor, there's cameras in every VIP room. So, no, but I do know there are some clubs with like, if you're really in with the host, so you could like tip them off, and they'll turn an eye. But I would say for the most part, it's impossible to get away with anything like that. And if you do get caught, you'll be terminated. But I feel like something girls do. Here in the strip clubs is like meet with clients after work. Like they don't want to waste their jobs here in Vegas at the strip club.
Nick VinZant 10:51
How often would you say that? That happens?
"Daisy" 10:54
I would say very often. Very, very often. Very.
Nick VinZant 10:59
So now, do you ever do that?
"Daisy" 11:02
Yeah. It's happened a couple of times before?
Nick VinZant 11:05
Why in those circumstances like, Okay, I'm going to do that now. But I'm not going to do that. In this other circumstance.
"Daisy" 11:12
Some guys just don't like spending money in the club, they just would prefer to pay you outside of the club. So if I'm like having a not great night at the club, and a guy is willing to pay for me, my friends to meet him after then we'll typically take them up on it.
Nick VinZant 11:27
Is that going the whole way? Um,
"Daisy" 11:29
sometimes Yeah. Other times. Gambling is a big thing here in Vegas. So even just going and meeting up with them and gambling with them. But you know, guys are guys, they want what they want. That's the time like
Nick VinZant 11:42
we've kind of hinted at it. But I'm assuming that sometimes when you meet somebody after that sex may be involved. Yeah. In those circumstances, do you feel a certain way about it? Are you just like, I got my money. And this is how it is?
"Daisy" 11:58
Um, I feel like it's just one of those disassociative things when it happens. Yeah, yes, get your money. And don't really think about it.
Nick VinZant 12:11
Do you feel though like other people might not really understand that.
"Daisy" 12:16
I don't think anyone understands it. How come? It's just unless you're involved or a part of it, I don't really think it's something that people understand. Do
Nick VinZant 12:28
you ever worry that you may look back at this time in life and be like, yeah, wish I wouldn't have done that? Yeah,
"Daisy" 12:34
all the time. But did you feel right now, as of right now, I am happy with the life I live and the choices that I make, and I'm fine with it. But yeah, I do think maybe later down the road, I'm gonna look back and everything might catch up to me. And like, dang, that's something I regret.
Nick VinZant 12:53
But I think everybody has that, don't they?
"Daisy" 12:55
Yeah, that's that comes with life. People regret a lot of things they do in life. Is
Nick VinZant 13:00
there a difference between the people who do this and like, Look, I just wanted to make a whole bunch of money versus like, this is what I had to do.
"Daisy" 13:08
Um, yeah, I think everyone is in different situations. Like, some people do it to survive, and some people do it to get ahead.
Nick VinZant 13:20
Is it an industry where people have a long shelf life? Like, Well, you see people in their 30s 40s 50s Do it? Oh,
"Daisy" 13:28
yeah, I do. And I do not know how there's still they're doing it. I told myself, even now I'm so burnt out like, and since I started when I was 18, I do take breaks, like, during COVID. I took about a year break. When I lived in Reno and danced, I would take winters off. Here now, even now here in Vegas, I probably only go to the club about once a week. Yeah, you really have to take care of yourself. And it's really, really easy to get burnt out very quickly. Just when you've just meet so many people deal with so many different people and different personalities. It's very draining. And then on top of that you're drinking, among other things, which is also very tiring and hard on your body.
Nick VinZant 14:14
We have some listener submitted questions, but not Yeah, you want to do those? Yeah. What type of dancer generally makes the most money? Obviously, if
"Daisy" 14:25
you're pretty and attractive, it is helpful in any instance in life, I feel like but no, I would say the girls who make the most money are just probably the girls who are the most confident and just can go up and talk to anyone. I would say just the girls who can talk and relate to people and aren't afraid to walk up to anyone and everyone. Does
Nick VinZant 14:44
that change at all like Okay, a couple of years ago, it was the really skinny girls and now it's the
"Daisy" 14:50
no I don't think so it's just finding that guy who's going to be into you, which comes to just talking to every single guy and finding that person who you're going to connect with Because guys all have different types,
Nick VinZant 15:02
older guy or younger guy,
"Daisy" 15:03
I would say typically older white men. I don't know why Indian guys really like me assumed to be attracted to me and enjoy my company. But yeah, I would say those are the two main guys.
Nick VinZant 15:20
Do you have like a type? Yeah,
"Daisy" 15:22
so for mine, I would say it would be older white guys or Indian guys and Asians, Asians too. I'm very, I am very open to walk up to them.
Nick VinZant 15:33
What days are generally the most lucrative what times are usually the most lucrative? Definitely
"Daisy" 15:39
the weekends, Friday, Saturday, Thursdays to, I would say the busiest times would be probably like 11pm to two 3am. But some girls like sometimes the weekends can just be really overwhelming and very, very chaotic. I know some girls who prefer the weekdays, when it's a little bit calmer and not just so much of a party crowd.
Nick VinZant 16:03
Do you have to have a good relationship with the bouncers in order to get the best clients?
"Daisy" 16:08
Yeah, definitely, it helps being in with the bouncers because they'll put you on to the good clients, which makes it a lot easier. So you're not just having to walk up to any random person you see. So it is helpful being of the bouncers who can be like, Okay, this is going to be a good group, like walk up to them. But when you do that, the bouncers typically expect like a 20% tip out on whatever you make. And I've seen girls get fired for not tipping out from that.
Nick VinZant 16:35
Do people kind of come in and out of the industry? Yeah,
"Daisy" 16:38
I definitely. I feel like I've known about so many girls who they're quitting and then a couple months or however long later i They're back.
Nick VinZant 16:46
Why do you think that is? Like, what is it?
"Daisy" 16:49
I just think that once you get used to having this freedom and making so much money, it's just hard to go back to anything else. Because there's so many times I have thought about going back and just getting a regular job or going back to the hair salon. And it's just so hard to go from making so much to not and like I can make potentially $3,000 in a night. Like I don't want to go back and work at the hair salon and make that after like a week, two weeks, you know,
Nick VinZant 17:18
it's do you feel like it's a trap in any way?
"Daisy" 17:21
Yeah, I definitely feel trapped a lot or like I'm in this endless cycle.
Nick VinZant 17:28
Is there is there any stigma in it? In Vegas? Like do you feel like Vegas has less of a stigma or more of a stigma about it?
"Daisy" 17:35
Um, I would say probably a lot less just because of how so common it is. For girls to dance or be dancers. But I guess the stigma that comes with it is maybe just like when it comes to dating or relationships and like how guys see us I don't really know a lot of dancers who are in healthy relationships. Or I feel like people just have this idea of us like we don't respect ourselves or we're just like dirty filthy whores you know, but I feel like that's so far from the truth for me personally just because I feel like in the club I give so much of my time and energy and I guess in a sense body to guys that outside of the club I'm really picky with who I do give my energy and time to does
Nick VinZant 18:29
it make it hard kind of to to have a life outside of it.
"Daisy" 18:33
Very difficult. I've been single for three years I haven't even since then been close to being in relationship I almost don't want to be in a relationship with a guy that is okay with me doing this
Nick VinZant 18:47
that doesn't make sense and make sense at the same time. Yeah,
"Daisy" 18:50
yeah, the guy that I want I don't think I would want them to be okay with me doing what I do. Um,
Nick VinZant 18:57
what is your most interesting request
"Daisy" 19:00
um, something that goes off the top of my head is a lot of guys are really into being degraded or being almost like a little bit feminine I had one guy and he just like so strange he just wanted to sit on my lap like and for me to literally hold him like a child and then he also like wanted to get on my back and like me walk around the room
Nick VinZant 19:25
wait what he wanted you to get on your well like me give him like
"Daisy" 19:29
a piggyback ride like on all fours are like on your shoulders like carrying on like standing. Are you strong enough
Nick VinZant 19:37
to do that? Like that's I
"Daisy" 19:38
was Yeah, I was this one guy.
Nick VinZant 19:42
How did that conversation even come up?
"Daisy" 19:45
I'm just at the very beginning of the dance. He just told me what do you wanted?
Nick VinZant 19:50
Oh, good. I guess man whatever gets you right to
"Daisy" 19:54
each their own. Another really weird thing is I when guys say like oh my gosh, you're It's like the same age as my daughter just go on and on about that just so weird. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 20:05
there is a thing like, Look, I've entered this stage of life, where you start to no longer be able to communicate with younger people. And like you just, he just sound like an idiot. But a
"Daisy" 20:16
lot of guys sometimes just really love to sit there and talk and just hear about like, our lives.
Nick VinZant 20:24
Why do you think that people are kind of fascinated by it?
"Daisy" 20:29
Just because it's a whole new world, like, even me when I started dancing. I was very shocked by the industry, just an interesting industry. And it's very different from everyday normal lives.
Nick VinZant 20:43
So you've danced in Reno and in in Vegas? Yeah. How are those two different would you say that like, Oh,
"Daisy" 20:50
are you very different. The clubs in Reno are a lot different in the sense of everything is a lot more laid back. So there's not really cameras in there, AP can definitely get away with a lot more up there. And then also, the competition is a lot less in Reno as well. When I was living in Reno, I always was very, very confident and how I looked and my body and then I moved to Vegas, and I just as humbled very, very quickly, by the girls I was surrounded with. I was like, Oh, wow. I am. Yeah. To
Nick VinZant 21:23
really make some money in Vegas. Not necessarily that you're not, but like to really make some money to girls have to augment themselves. I don't know how you want to know what I'm talking about. But yeah,
"Daisy" 21:36
um, so since living in Vegas, I have had my nose down and my boobs done. And I actually just scheduled my surgery to get a beat a skinny BBL, which I will be doing at the end of summer. But yeah, every majority of girls like I would say 80 to 90% of girls here have all of those things done on top of like, their hair extensions, fillers, Botox, everything that comes with it nails. Girls put a lot investing into their looks here.
Nick VinZant 22:07
What's the skinny bbl? I don't know what that is.
"Daisy" 22:10
It's just it's a regular maybe all but for just a petite girl. A
Nick VinZant 22:13
Brazilian Butt Lift? Is that what it is? Okay.
"Daisy" 22:16
Yeah,
Nick VinZant 22:17
I can't keep track all these acronyms. I
"Daisy" 22:19
know, it's not so much. It's a lot to keep up.
Nick VinZant 22:21
But would you say like looking at it. Like this is a return on investment, business decision kind of thing where if I spent five grand on this surgery, I know that my profits are going to go up.
"Daisy" 22:32
Honest, in a way I feel like the only reason that it does go up is because it does build your confidence. And when your confidence it just makes it a lot easier to talk to people. But like I said, I see girls who maybe aren't the best looking who make way more than girls who do have all that stuff done. I feel like it's all just a mindset.
Nick VinZant 22:52
This one of our questions, right, like does the best looking girl make the most money?
"Daisy" 22:56
I don't think so. Now,
Nick VinZant 22:59
what's the best song in
"Daisy" 23:00
the club? For me personally, I if I were to pick a song, I like the song hypnotized by plays, which is a way older songs.
Nick VinZant 23:08
Do guys sometimes just do their thing in the club?
"Daisy" 23:12
What do you mean do their thing? Yeah, I remember. I was working in Reno at the club. And it was, I think my second night working ever in the club. And I had gotten a VIP with a guy. And it was one of those rooms where it was a separate room from the club. But there was just dividers with other people in the room. So it wasn't completely private, but it was just a little more private than like the regular room. And I had not even started dancing barely. You got to 15 minutes. I think he paid like 150 for that. And within a couple of seconds he had to unzipped his pants and took it out and I was like, What are you doing? And he was like, Oh, you don't buck for 150 and it was just so shocking. Like I said it was my second eye ever working. I immediately went and told the bouncer and basically gave him one morning and said like Don't do that again, or else you're gonna get kicked out. So yeah, I had to finish the dance, which is very, very uncomfortable.
Nick VinZant 24:09
You went back and finished it. Yeah.
"Daisy" 24:13
So I think here if that happened in Vegas this day, they would have immediately kicked him out. But like I said, this was in Reno, and they just gave him a warning.
Nick VinZant 24:22
Have you ever had any celebrity clients?
"Daisy" 24:25
Yeah, so working in Vegas. There's definitely a lot of celebrities. Mainly robbers that I know that come into the clubs a lot. Yeah, big name robbers mostly.
Nick VinZant 24:39
Do they tip well, are they not tip? Well, the cheaper they throw it around a little bit. They like to show off
"Daisy" 24:45
and throw a lot of money. Yeah, but then when they do. There's typically like a lot of girls in the room. So the money has to be split up individually which doesn't really turn out to be that much usually, but they do like to show off and throw a lot of money.
Nick VinZant 24:59
What advice would you give to somebody that was thinking about doing this? Ah,
"Daisy" 25:04
gosh, um, I would just say, just be really smart with their money because this is not something that you can do forever. Yeah, just be smart and save your money and create boundaries for yourself and just don't let people cross those boundaries.
Nick VinZant 25:25
That's pretty much all the questions I have. If anybody wants to learn more about you or anything like that, what should they do? Instagram?
"Daisy" 25:32
Yeah, if they wanted to follow me on Instagram, or ask me any direct questions through the DMS.
Nick VinZant 25:41
I want to thank Daisy so much for joining us if you want to connect with her, we have linked to her on our social media sites. We're Profoundly Pointless on tik, Tok, Instagram, and YouTube. And we've also included her information in the episode description. If you want to see more of this interview, the YouTube version will be live on March 7, at 12:30pm Pacific. So real quick, I want to take a moment and thank one of the sponsors of our show factor. Eating better is just so much easier with factor. They've got delicious, ready to eat meals. They're always fresh, never frozen, curated by chefs dietician approved, and they are ready to go in just two minutes, we recently got a box and they were really good. And really easy. Didn't have to think about what to eat didn't have to think about if it was healthy or not, just pop it in the microwave. And in two minutes, you are ready to go. And they've got all kinds of options. More than 60 add ons that can help you stay fueled up and feeling good all day long. Pancakes, smoothies, no prep, no mess, and they are flexible for your schedule, you can get as much or as little as you would like. And right now, they are offering a special discount just for our listeners. Here, all you have to do is head over to factor meals.com/pointless 50 and use code pointless 50 to get 50% off, that's code pointless 50 at factor meals.com/pointless 50 to get 50% off, they are really good. Okay, now let's bring in John Shaw, and get to the pointless part of the show. Okay, if you could somehow go back in time. Do you think your younger self would listen to your older self?
John Shull 27:38
No, but I think that's that's the way life is. I feel like nobody when you're young, listens to people that say they're experienced, whatever. I
Nick VinZant 27:49
know what you mean, right? I think that as you get older, you find this equal combination of oh, I should have listened to those people. They were right. And oh, why did I ever listen to those people, they have no idea what they're talking about.
John Shull 28:00
I mean, if we listen to the older adults, as younger people, you're not going to have any fun. You're not going to have any life experiences, you're going to be essentially a robot probably,
Nick VinZant 28:12
how many influential older people would you say that you had in your life? Not a relative, but someone who was older than you that you would say was influential in a positive way in your life.
John Shull 28:24
I mean, I'm gonna say less than 10. But it might be less than five. If I really thought about it. I
Nick VinZant 28:30
can only think of two people in my life that were influential in a positive way who are older than me, but I pulled the audience 65% of people said yes. 35% said, no, they probably would not listen. I don't know if I would listen to me. No, I mean, in some ways, your parents are kind of like you and you don't really listen to them. Do you listen to your parents? No. Yeah, I don't really listen to my parents either. Yeah, I just
John Shull 28:55
couldn't see myself at a younger age listening to me now, I'd be like, Okay, let's see where life takes us. In
Nick VinZant 29:03
your life. Do you think that you have had more good examples of what to do? Or more bad examples of what not to do? It's probably
John Shull 29:11
5050. Maybe leaning, doing the right things?
Nick VinZant 29:15
I would say mine is probably a little closer to more examples of people who did things the wrong way. Like, oh, I shouldn't do that. Okay. All right.
John Shull 29:25
All right. Well, here we go. Let's give some shout outs. We'll start with West Blackwell. Jacob flax Colton gains like a good Colton. Every now and again. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 29:37
very limited needs to be very limited.
John Shull 29:42
Ty King, Jerry Martinez, Omar Khan. Gabe, Sid. Matthew, this can't be real. Matthew McConaughey Jr. The second. I don't think that's real, but it made me laugh when I was reading it regardless of We'll cosec Maxwell de WITTs. And we're going to end here once again. I know this isn't a real last name, but it made me laugh. Aleksander silver hammer. And
Nick VinZant 30:11
it doesn't take a lot does it? It's the guy's name is silver hammer. Ah, that's
John Shull 30:16
that's a strong last name though. There, you know if it was
Nick VinZant 30:19
a hammer. Do you wish you had a manly or last name?
John Shull 30:23
I mean, I wish I had a different last name sometimes. Yes. Like, how great would it be to, you know, have the last name of gold hammer or silver hammer or Iron Fist? I mean, come on. That'd be awesome. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 30:35
we really should have had better last names. All last names should be more powerful names. There's not enough powerful last names. They're all kind of weenie last name. Like VinZant.
John Shull 30:49
Show I have one syllable show.
Nick VinZant 30:52
There's not enough sweet last names.
John Shull 30:54
I would have loved to have had a cool anchor name though. I don't have to be an anchor or Reporter But you know, like, like a cool name like a. I don't even know what that is. But I would just would have loved to have one. Alright, let's, let's see how you react to some of these quickfire topics here. Which you'll probably end up ruining, but we'll try anyways. We'll start with this one, a moon pod.
Nick VinZant 31:18
What's a moon pod? Apparently,
John Shull 31:20
they're going to start going on sale. And it says essentially, it's a gigantic beanbag chair. But it's shaped like the moon and it's supposed to go around your body and just provide ultimate comfort.
Nick VinZant 31:35
How have we not reached ultimate comfort by now? Like if we haven't figured out already? What's the best pillow bed couch, whatever, we're not gonna figure it out. Like How complicated can this be? Like? No, no, no, change the shape on the end and make it a hexagon. And then this will revolutionize the comfort industry? Like how have we not received maximum comfort already? Willy
John Shull 32:00
Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
Nick VinZant 32:03
They should have left that alone. Gene Wilder is the definitive Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. And that's one of those movies that they should just stop remaking stop messing with it, they achieve perfection and the best that that is going to be with that one movie, and it's never going to be replaced. And every other time that they try to do it, it's just going to be a forgettable waste of time. Stop remaking that movie.
John Shull 32:24
I do really feel in that instance, that if you're not the first and the last, if you're one of those weird ones in the middle, like wasn't Hugh Grant involved in one remake? And then you had ballooned by Johnny Depp and another like, no one's gonna remember those like, no
Nick VinZant 32:39
Gene Wilder did the best that movie that should be one of those things that anybody with a brain should be able to look at that movie and be like, we're not gonna be bad.
John Shull 32:47
It really made me laugh. Alright, this whole Netflix sports idea. I don't know if you saw the last, I guess, live event they did. But it was a tennis match with Rafael Nadal and one of the younger stars, Carlos, Alcatraz or Alcatraz? But regardless, what do you think of the whole Netflix sports live sports concept.
Nick VinZant 33:08
I mean, I'm fine with it, as long as they don't have to pay any more money. But if they keep trying to find ways to try to screw us out of money and try to charge us a little bit more and provide a little bit less, like when now they're trying to get ads in there. And all these kinds of things. It's weird how streaming is basically turning back into cable, but I'm fine with whatever they do, but I'm not paying any more money. I feel like people are starting to put their foot down and like No, we got to put a stop to this. charging people for subscriptions for car things that they already had, where they want to make you pay extra for your heated seats, stuff like that, like dynamic pricing at Wendy's, when they're going to try to charge you based on the time of day, like no, we as a society need to put our foot down and be like, That's enough of this crap.
John Shull 33:48
And that was actually one of my things I was going to ask you about was the dynamic pricing. I think that I'm glad you know, Wendy's, if you're not familiar that Wendy's came out last week, I maybe it leaked out whatever, but it came out that they were going to try possibly something in the future with dynamic pricing, where certain items were going to be more money based on like you said, the time of day, you know, supplies, etc. That is absurd. To me, that is not that I'm necessarily against it. But I think it's absurd. Well, no matter what the circumstances, say you want a I don't know, a breakfast sandwich at McDonald's. And they're running a little low on egg that day. So they they jack the price up a buck. Like that's not fair to the consumer. That's not our fault. Like
Nick VinZant 34:32
this is what I think is going to be a fundamental problem for our society moving forward in the United States is that we're a population that's based on growth and we're not growing anymore. So you got to figure out a way to essentially rip off customers to make more money and we've got to put a stop to it now, because I know you're not doing this.
John Shull 34:49
I mean, I read something and don't fact check me on this because the numbers wrong, but it was something like the if an average household pays 175 bucks. In cable if you have cable
Nick VinZant 35:02
the Oh guy. Yeah, we got like, No way, man, that stuff too expensive. Also, if you have cable, call your cable provider like every two months and say you're gonna quit and they'll keep dropping the price. I used to do that all the time. Well,
John Shull 35:14
so then the second part of that is apparently the average if you don't have cable, but you still use internet through a cable providers that and with streaming services, the average per month was like 150. Anyways, so it's, it's insane. It's insane.
Nick VinZant 35:30
That's why you always got to do the year math man. You always got to do the year math. It's not $10 a month, that's $120 a year. Right? It doesn't seem like I do the year math. That's my philosophy. I'm done preaching
John Shull 35:42
your math, I love it. Um, I just threw this one in there because this was something local to me. But Braylon Edwards, former NFL superstar stopped a robbery in progress of an elderly man. So that's the first part of it. Congratulations, you Braylon possibly a listener, by the way. Secondly, do you think I'm not asking you per se? But do you think of a regular bystanders seeing something like that occur? Do you think they're going to step in? Or look the other way?
Nick VinZant 36:17
I think most people would probably kind of look the other way. It depends a little bit where you live, but I think that most people would look the other way because you just don't know, man. Like you don't know who's got what, or who can do what. But I think if you're a former professional athlete, you have a little bit more leeway in the sense that like, I'm probably gonna be able to handle myself.
John Shull 36:38
I mean, we kind of talked about last week, right? Like, if you're a professional athlete, you're a professional athlete. I mean, you kind of already have a national athlete, you can already have one up on the rest of us. So congratulations on that. Um, all right, kind of staying with a sports theme here March Madness do you care don't you care?
Nick VinZant 36:57
I don't know.
John Shull 37:00
All right, that's fair enough to you can just not care I'd
Nick VinZant 37:03
like to care but then it's one of those things that like oh, I'm excited about it coming up and then when it gets here I'm just like, Okay, I'm not I don't quite see what the amazing thing about it is right like I go eastern Tennessee East like North Eastern western Tennessee is about to take on these people like okay, cool.
John Shull 37:27
Like you just said, Man, or whatever you said it's it's all good. So everyone knows about the girl dad phenomenon that happened a couple of years ago still kind of you know yes, you know what a girl That girl that this girl that this anyways? Well now there's something started called boy dad. Yeah, and I don't really get it because I feel like you know, like, what is it? Well the girl dad phenomenon was like oh look at all these dads that have just girls right it's when you have just or just a girl you don't have to have multiple children. Yeah, it's the same thing for boy dads now they're saying dads who just have boys are you know the greatest this and that because they're they're just great for their boys. I just don't get I don't get any trend like this. I just don't understand it.
Nick VinZant 38:16
I think you get what you get. You know I mean, I guess to answer your question like okay, cool. All right. Well, I don't know don't know don't write girl dad. Now we're back at boy dad's like all right. Yeah. Hey, man. Be happy with what you got. You got one girl one boy. Two boys, two girls, whatever. Nope. Just yet. There's nothing you can do about it. Just stop there. I
John Shull 38:34
love it. I love it. I love that one answer. Hopefully you edit that last part out. Alright, two more things here. One is this the Stanley Cup absurdity, where apparently now like a regular Stanley Cup is going for $150 That's insane. That's insane.
Nick VinZant 38:53
Well, what is it? Is it turning into a collector's item kind of thing. I mean, like,
John Shull 38:57
what they're not. But unless they release a limited edition color. It's just a Tervis tumbler like, it's, I don't get it. I don't
Nick VinZant 39:05
understand how water and hydration all of a sudden became the most important thing and the solve of all life's problems. Like oh, you got this. You broke your leg. Well, you probably just dehydrated. Like I used to have like one drink of water a day, walking past the Bubbler at school. But you could sneak in before they told you to get to class. Like you used to have one drink of water a day and now all of a sudden we have to be hydrated like we're staying in the middle of the ocean. I wandered in $50 for that. That's ridiculous.
John Shull 39:36
It's insane. It's it's about as insane as this final topic I'm going to ask you about which is apparently Gen Z. That's right. Gen Z The Greatest Generation of all wants to bring back landline phones because they want to twirl the cords.
Nick VinZant 39:57
I mean, just connect one to your cell phone like LAN minds aren't coming back. You're still the only man in America who probably has a landline. And it's a waste of how much money is it?
John Shull 40:07
I actually just looked and I was kind of I was kind of flabbergasted it is 1299 A month we pay for this thing. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 40:15
do you that's $144 a year, and you've had it for how long?
John Shull 40:20
Six years? Eight years. All
Nick VinZant 40:23
right. So you're looking at 150 times like six? No, that's $900. You've wasted you've wasted $1,000 on a landline that probably only receives a call what once every month,
John Shull 40:36
no, even once a month. Now, it's probably once a week.
Nick VinZant 40:40
Is it anybody that you know? Yeah,
John Shull 40:43
I mean, the wife and I will call that sometimes instead of our cell phones, because we don't get the greatest reception in my house. Sometimes, well,
Nick VinZant 40:51
maybe invest that money that you could have in better cell phone reception and not in a landline could kill two birds with one stone. I don't care what anybody like whatever one generation wants to do. You want to bring back this, you want to bring back that fine. I do feel like you should maybe have a little bit of a better reason than twisting the cords. I don't know if that's really going to get that thing off the bat. What I want to see come back is ski ballet. I want ski ballet to come back. I don't think I've ever laughed that hard in my entire life. It's incredible. That just
John Shull 41:21
makes me think of that. That video I sent you the other day on Instagram where the skier is going down the hill in some time, some type of world competition. And he runs into one of those flagpoles that he's supposed to go around. And it catches him square on the dick. And he just starts screaming and it's hilariously funny it those
Nick VinZant 41:40
guys are going Ah, so I have to admit, I very rarely watch the things that people send me. If people my wife included, if you're gonna tag me in something on social media, or you're gonna send me something on social media. I don't want to watch it. I don't want to watch it. All right, well, I'm fine. I'm fine. Not knowing I don't like to be sent things. That I'd rather be left alone.
John Shull 42:04
Listen, can we send this to the best part of the month?
Nick VinZant 42:09
Oh, is it girl candle of the month? Okay. Oh, man, March, baby. All right. What am I saying? No, I got it. I got it. It's time. The Outlaw candle connoisseur Rides Again. candle of the month.
John Shull 42:32
Well, Nick, let's, let's take a trip down memory lane. Shall we gotta give a shout out. First off,
Nick VinZant 42:39
can you pick a voice? What voice are you going to do? Because you're trying to go between like three different ones. Just pick one and stick with that for more than three words. In a sense.
John Shull 42:48
I can't Well, we'll stick with this one like my excited voice I guess. Okay, okay. So I gotta give a shout out to Darcy, a friend of a friend apparently listens to the podcast and in talk to the mutual friend we have in common and recommended this. This candle. So shout out to you Darcy, who I've still really never met before. But regardless, I was kind of against it. We'll start off with a company it is by Goose Creek is the company I received. It was a march. I think it was a gift back in January. But I will tell you, it's not only a candle of creativity, but it's a candle of culture. And I'll say that. The title of it is Wonka's golden ticket.
Nick VinZant 43:34
Oh, it's a good title. And obviously,
John Shull 43:37
kind of released sudo li as a promotional item. I'm sure what the movie that's coming out or is due to come out whatever. But beyond all the garbage of cinema. This candle is amazing. It's going to be relatively cheap. I think it's on sale or should be on sale for about half price which should should run you about 12 to $15. It's going to be a three week candle. And if you're looking for what notes it has, well it's Willy Wonka, right and it's wrapped in like a gold film, like a candy bar like the Willy Wonka golden bar. So it's gonna be like chocolate. That nella cream caramel. It's definitely a candle that if you weren't hungry for sweets, as it burns, you will be you'll be oh what smells like chocolate. Well, I can't eat the candle. So I'm gonna go grab a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup or something. But anyways, it's awesome. It's it's a little different than anything I've really showcased before on camera the month but check it out. You can get it from Goose Creek candle.com And once again Darcy shout out to you in
Nick VinZant 44:48
Well listen, when you develop a reputation as a candle kind of sewer. People want to know what you think about candles. Do you feel like you have a sophisticated palette? average power or do you feel like you have kind of a trash She palette when it comes to candles,
John Shull 45:02
I feel like I have an all around kind of palette. I mean, I feel like, especially if you're in the mood for having done this now for what going on two years, at least a year and a half, I've been able to have some great recommendations. It's funny. People like my, my personal friends, my my friend group here, they had no idea. They still don't believe me. Some of them, I'm sure, but I don't know what to tell them. So, yeah, I
Nick VinZant 45:28
wouldn't believe you. You ready for our top five,
John Shull 45:30
let's disappear into the top.
Nick VinZant 45:32
Oh, I see what she did there. So our top five is top five, practical superpowers, like superpowers that you could actually have and use in the real world. And we'd be practical, like, Oh, that would actually be helpful.
John Shull 45:49
What's number five? Number five, and going with being able to read someone's mind.
Nick VinZant 45:57
Oh, I have that a little bit lower on the list, I will just have that a little bit lower on the list.
John Shull 46:04
The reason why it's on my number five is simply I don't think I would ever want to be able to know what people are thinking about me or thinking in general. But I do think it would be good to be able to do that for many different reasons, but I don't really want to be able to, but I do think it's important enough to to put it into a top five list.
Nick VinZant 46:23
I agree. My number five is super strength, but only a little super strength. Like Captain America super strength. I think if you were like the Hulk, that would actually be really hard to exist in the world. So a little bit of super strength, I think would be a great power to have. Well,
John Shull 46:40
our like top fives are kind of indicative of each other because I so I also have superhuman strength on my list, but also a little bit further up the road. My number four, this See, look, my top three were pretty much set. My number four was the one that was kind of iffy. But if I if I have to be put on the spot, I'm gonna go with being able to use teleportation as my number four.
Nick VinZant 47:06
Oh, I think that should be way higher. Once again, I think that should be way higher
John Shull 47:11
and practicality terms it makes sense. But I feel like there's just way too many things that could go wrong. And if you have everyone teleporting, you're gonna have people running in each other, they're gonna be like, you know, showing up in Abu Dhabi, when they mean to go to London like it's, it's going to need some some, some ironing out. But once again, it deserves a place in the top five.
Nick VinZant 47:33
My number four is telepathy, because I agree that like, I think reading somebody's mind would be good, but I don't think you really want to know that much what other people are thinking. So that's why I couldn't put telepathy any higher than like number four.
John Shull 47:47
I mean, I definitely don't want to know what anyone's thinking about me. But like, if I could block that out, maybe. But other than that, yeah, no, I'm good. What's your number three. So number three is X ray vision. And in terms of practicality standpoint, I think, I think would actually be one of the most useful things. And I know we kind of already had it. But I'm talking about like, police on scene of barricaded gunman situations or, you know, fire departments being able to see if anyone's in a house, you know, things like that. I know, we already have thermal and everything like that. But how many times do things like that actually get used in the real world, right? If everyone has access to X ray vision, you know, you would be able to see a lot better and see things more clearly, I guess, than we do now.
Nick VinZant 48:33
I understand what you're going for. I wouldn't put X ray vision on my list, but I could see where it would be really helpful in certain situations. Like get the X ray guy. Yeah. Good old x Clops.
John Shull 48:46
It's, uh, yeah, you know, it's like, I hate use it. You know, I'm not gonna use that analogy. Um, you know, you could use it in any any like business setting. Like, oh, what's Johnny doing in his in his office? Is he sleeping the door shut? Let's take a look. You know, things like that.
Nick VinZant 49:02
Yeah, you get across a lot. Fast. Yeah, well, you're gonna get yourself into some trouble with X ray vision pretty quickly. Didn't say it's not going to take a long
John Shull 49:11
time didn't say it was lawful. But
Nick VinZant 49:14
my number three is super intelligence. Okay, the only reason I wouldn't put super intelligence any higher is because I don't really think being smart gets you that far. I think it's actually in some ways it'd be a curse.
John Shull 49:27
I actually don't have super intelligence on the list because two things one, being super smart like you said, seems to be looked down upon in two. We don't need any more AI type things in this world. All right. We don't need any more super smart anything. All right. Let's just be a species and go from there.
Nick VinZant 49:50
Yeah, well, that's not really what we're gonna do. I don't think yeah, I don't think being super smart would really be that great. Thank you to kind of be just to remind render of how much everybody else sucks. Okay, what's number two? I'm getting into it. Now.
John Shull 50:05
My number two is superhuman speed.
Nick VinZant 50:08
Oh, I thought about super speed a lot. I thought about super speed a lot. I didn't put it on there. But I think super speed would be incredibly helpful. That'd be awesome to have. My number two is flight. I think flight would be a great superpower, not only for like, transportation, you could get around, even if you couldn't fly that fast, you could still go like fly to the bird, right? You could still get around pretty well with transportation. And you could also make a lot of money off flight. You could charge people a lot of money being like, Hey, you want to fly a fly up in the sky for a little while? Like flight would be a really good one to have.
John Shull 50:45
Yeah, I mean, that's great. That's I have that as one of my few honorable mentions. But my number one we kind of talked about earlier, I have superhuman strength. I mean, for multiple reasons. But you know, say a building crumbles down, say, a car's flipped over buses flipped over, let's call that guy Oh, come over and flip it over for Yo, come move the rocks, he'll knock down the building if he has to. I mean, superhuman strength can be used for so many positive things.
Nick VinZant 51:13
I think superhuman strength would be very handy if you were like a demolition company or a moving company. But I don't think that you would really want to exist in the world with superhuman strength, like you'd be ripping people's arms off all the time. Well,
John Shull 51:25
I guess you'd have to have a disclaimer, don't shake that guy's head is gonna rip your arm off.
Nick VinZant 51:30
But you couldn't even like open a door, you would have to have no doors in your house. So you would just be ripping your house apart all the time.
John Shull 51:40
Okay, I don't disagree with you. But then you don't have to you don't have doors, then you just build a house. Without doors.
Nick VinZant 51:47
I'm just telling you. I think that like high level, superhumans training could be a huge pain in the ass. You're
John Shull 51:52
one of those doggie doors, you know, with like the little plastic flaps, you can just walk through it, then?
Nick VinZant 51:57
Well, you just have to have no doors in your house, you'd have to have like automatic doors, because otherwise you'd just be tearing everything apart. Like you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to fix anything. Like imagine if you tried to put together a desk from IKEA. Like, he would just rip it all of the pieces. It'd be real. I think it'd be really inconvenient to have super strength.
John Shull 52:18
I mean, yeah, but no, I think it'd be fucking great. I would like obviously, you're gonna like going to the gym as like a like, just me. And then I just show up and I'm just like benching, every weight they have with one arm, you know, that got me crazy.
Nick VinZant 52:32
You're just like picking the whole thing up. My number one is teleportation. I think teleportation would be the most practical superpower. You can get around easily. You can go on vacations. You could make lots of money off of it be like this thing needs to be here right now. Like, I got it. I'll be there in a second. I mean, I think it's incredibly practical.
John Shull 52:52
Once again, I think it's I don't disagree with you that it's I mean number being number one, it's fine. I just feel like like out of all the superpowers you have everyone start friggin teleporting. It's going to be a gigantic disaster.
Nick VinZant 53:08
Duty. Not everybody can be a teleporter this is just your superpower.
John Shull 53:14
Yeah, I'm still comfortable where I had it. I'm good. I want to be. I want to be strong. You know what I mean? I want to be I think speed. I want to be Lou Ferrigno. Not, you know, Usain Bolt, though Usain Bolt's pretty badass
Nick VinZant 53:27
he had did I think that worked out better for Usain Bolt than it did for Lou Ferrigno. Super Speed would be pretty practical as well. What's in your honorable mention? Um,
John Shull 53:35
well, let's see, I put in shape shifting, but that's more like, shape shifting is kind of like,
Nick VinZant 53:43
what are you gonna do with that? Right? Unless you're like a criminal or a master criminal. But I mean, but then you wish you had one of these other powers? I think you could make just as much money legally, and not have to worry about it.
John Shull 53:53
I also I don't know if you're gonna say this is one. But it was on a list I was looking at of immortality.
Nick VinZant 54:02
Oh, I wouldn't want that at all. There's
John Shull 54:04
a small part of me like 5% That's like, man, it'd be cool. Never to die. Like to see the world. Just go go and go like, you know, but when? When would when would it be enough? Right? You're right, it probably would be terrible.
Nick VinZant 54:17
I wouldn't want you to turn your mortality at all. Healing would be cool, though.
John Shull 54:21
Healing would be dope. I also had flight on there. And then I don't think this is actually one but I'm gonna say it. But like being able to manipulate time, like stopping time and, you know, Oh,
Nick VinZant 54:34
that'd be really cool. Yeah, that'd be Yeah. I would say healing and like time manipulation should probably be on the list. For sure. I don't know what I would rip I would replace tell. I would replace intelligence with time manipulation. If you could stop time and stuff. That'd be awesome.
John Shull 54:52
That'd be just like right now. I wish we could live in this moment forever, Nick, just you and I.
Nick VinZant 54:57
Okay, that's gonna go ahead and do it for this app. soda Profoundly Pointless I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance leave us a quick review. We really appreciate it really helps us out and let us know what you think are some of the most practical superpowers not pie in the sky ones like all be awesome to have that. But things that would really make your life better. Time Travel should have been up there as I get older healing should have been up there. But I'm still gonna go with teleportation think that'd be awesome. Just blink and you're over here and you're over there. Oh, I'll be so handy.
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