We’ve all experienced that feeling in our gut. But when should you trust your intuition and when should you ignore it? Intuition Researcher and Cognitive Neuroscientist Dr. Joel Pearson studies how intuition works. We talk trusting your intuition, decoding the information hidden in our subconscious and why we should smile more. Then, we unveil a new Candle of the Month and countdown the Top 5 Action Movie One Liners.
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Interview with Intuition Researcher Dr. Joel Pearson
Nick VinZant 0:00
Hi welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick VinZant. Coming up in this episode intuition, and the best movie one liners,
Dr. Joel Pearson 0:22
consciousness like an iceberg. So we're only aware of the very tip sticking out of the water. And most of what your brain is processing all the different information, what you're seeing, hearing, feeling, smelling, all that stuff's you're not conscious of, we fall for the trap that it's easy to imagine. And then you'll find that when you get that feeling, when something's about to happen, you won't ignore it, you'll start following it, right, and you'll begin to trust it, you'll know when to trust it, when not to trust it.
Nick VinZant 0:52
I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance, subscribe, leave us a rating or review. We really appreciate it, it really helps us out. If you're a new listener, welcome to the show. If you're a longtime listener, thank you so much for all of your support. So I want to get right to our first guest. This is intuition researcher and cognitive neuroscientist, Dr. Joel Pearson. What is intuition? Like I know what it is, but I don't know what it is.
Dr. Joel Pearson 1:25
So the way I define it is a little different from some other people, right? So I'm not talking about a magical sixth sense, right? Tapping into the universe or the ether, you know, anything spiritual, necessarily, or magical like that. So I define it fairly simply as the productive use of unconscious information for better decisions and actions, unconscious
Nick VinZant 1:46
information. That's like stuff that I noticed. But I don't know, though. Notice that I notice if is that, yeah. Unconscious information. Yeah,
Dr. Joel Pearson 1:55
so our brain. So right now you're sitting here and your brain is processing a ton of things is processing, but you're focusing attention on on me, hopefully, my face my voice, but you're not processing, you know, the air conditioning, or the temperature where you are, maybe the way your back or leg feels in the Chair, if I say How's your leg feels that comfortable. Now you can pay attention to that. And all sudden, you might become conscious of how the chair or the cushion or all these other things. So there's a whole lot of things going on in the background. And so people talk about consciousness, like an iceberg. So we're only aware of the very tip sticking out of the water. And most of what your brain is processing all the different information, what you're seeing, hearing, feeling, smelling, all that stuff's you're not conscious of, but your brain is still processing it. So the information is still there in your brain. You're just not aware of it. So that's kind of what I'm talking about. All the information. As you walk through life, you walk into a cafe, the music, the temperature, the style, how cool the staff look, if there's tablecloths, no tablecloths, you know, and 100, other variables, all that's been processed by your brain. And in that second or two, as you walk into the cafe, that all those things are triggering associations, and you're feeling that we can dive, you know, as deep as you want into the science around that. You're feeling that as a feeling right in the gut, in the chest, maybe the fingertips, right. So that the 1000 other times you've been to a cafe to get a coffee, your brains learned that certain music, certain style, certain colors, certain this certain that predict good coffee, or bad coffee, shitty food, good food. And that's all that learning has been happening under the hood. It's all been happening unconsciously. So when you walk into the cafe, you don't have to do anything or think anything, you just feel it. And that's that, that gut feeling that that we talk about with intuition by feeling in our bodies. We're not rationally logically going through all the different options.
Nick VinZant 3:54
So are we kind of like making a decision without knowing that we're making a decision?
Dr. Joel Pearson 4:00
Yeah, well, it's not the actual final decision. But it's the evidence for that decision, where we're getting a feeling sometimes very strong. I like this person, or like red flag alarm bells. I don't trust them. So you get it's the extra evidence towards the decision. And so the idea of intuition is to learn to trust that to use that. And this book that is coming out is really about five rules, based on the science for how to make that the most legitimate signal, how we can trust that. Because my message is not that intuition is always good or always bad. I don't want people to go out there and just trust it all the time. Because there are specific situations when you you can trust it, but other times we should absolutely not use it. So
Nick VinZant 4:45
is this happening in a specific part of the brain that you would say like, okay, that's intuition working, versus Okay, that's rational thought working.
Dr. Joel Pearson 4:54
So it depends on what the information we're talking about. It's going to involve the limbic system, which is sort of the Data is part of the limbic system, the emotions, we're feeling it, it's also going to evolve the body. So we have this. So we can perceive things out in the world, I can look around the room and see things, I can also perceive stuff inside my body. But the bathroom when I'm hot or cold, hungry, thirsty, that's called interoception. Just internal perception. So when my brain responds to something emotional, even if it's unconscious, my body still responds. So we can do this in the lab, I can show you a nasty image, render it unconscious, so you never are consciously aware of it. But your body will still respond, your heart rate will go up, you'll start sweating just a little bit more. So your body responds, even though you have no idea what it's responding to. And that is part of this feeling. So you can tap into that, that information through sensing your body.
Nick VinZant 5:52
But is it only kind of after the fact stuff I can't even think of a great example right off the top of my head. But I think everybody has experienced this where you notice something that like, Oh, that's a little off. And then you find out later that this thing had happened, or that thing had happened? You
Dr. Joel Pearson 6:09
get the feeling as it's happening, like I said, you run into someone in the street. And maybe you'll get enough a funny feeling about them, right? Something just doesn't click, it doesn't feel quite right. And you maybe have no idea why right? You don't have time to go hmm, is it their twitchiness? Is it the speed they're talking? Is it their hairstyle? Is it this is it that or, but you just feel something. And then later on, you might find out, you know, they're trying to scam you or they're trying to do this, they're trying to do that. Or maybe your intuition was false. And it was misleading, and they weren't really genuine. So often you find out later, what the signal might be based on. But in the moment, it's all happening too quickly. So it's all under the hood, you're going to feel it as it's happening in real time. And some people can tap into that a lot more than others. Some people feel these signals very strongly. Other people that don't really notice it as much. And when you give you know, if you send out a study to people, and you ask how do you make decisions every day? Some people say very logically, very rationally. Other people say no, I make very intuitive decisions. And I feel my way through things. So this is full spectrum in the world. And about 10 years ago, we developed a method to measure intuition in the lab. And it's kind of complicated, but we we found a way to I call it emotional Inception like that, like Inception that Chris Nolan Yeah, Caprio, right. So we so we're not doing dreams, or we can do when people are awake. And we show them a positive or a negative like a image, maybe it's like a snake or a spider or something that pretty scary, then we can flash stuff in the other eye, and it becomes invisible or unconscious. But as I said before the brain still processing it. So their body still responds, the brain still processing a negative or a positive image, but they have no idea at the exact exact same time, they have to make a very simple decision. And that's just looking at some dots moving left or right, super simple. And that's the that's the conscious decision. So all they go looking at these dots, they got left another trial, all the dots are now going to the right up now to the left. And without them even knowing that we're feeding in these unconscious images. And what we can show is that people who are good at intuition can utilize those unconscious images, because we set it up in a way that the images kind of give away the answer to the moving dots thing. So they're feeling the emotion. And that gives they feel positive, that gives the answer say to the right, they feel negative that gives the answer to left. So after a few trials, they start to learn this association, unconsciously. And then their decision accuracy goes up, they start responding more quickly, they get more confident in their decisions. And they don't even know this is happening. So once you understand what intuition is, and how we can think about it, it becomes quite sort of straightforward, to think about how the brain works and how learning works and memory, and a bunch of other things. And these rules naturally emerge from the way we understand the brain.
Nick VinZant 9:16
So when we talk about like tapping into it, how do you tap into this? Like, how do you use this kind of for your advantage?
Dr. Joel Pearson 9:23
So in the book, I have an acronym smile, right? So that stands for a couple of important things. So the idea is, you know, before you use intuition, smile, remember to smile. And it's just five rules about when, when and how to practice intuition and the s. The first thing is self awareness that really is trying to be aware of your emotional state. So the rule there is that we shouldn't practice intuition. If you're feeling anxious or depressed, or any strong emotion, right? Even positive, you've just fallen in love. You've just won the lottery, whatever it might be these strong positive emotions are going to sort of Flat out the subtle feelings of intuition as well. So there's there's good data now that decision making and in fact, specifically intuition gets doesn't really work when you're depressed or anxious. So if you're in those states, just stay away from it. But more generally speaking, if you think about what intuition is, is tapping into these, these feelings, these internal bodily sensations, and if you're highly anxious, or stressed or over the moon, right, you're just not gonna be able to tap into that anymore, you're going to, you're going to be confused about the source of those emotions. And that's something humans are not very good at that it's called arousal Miss attribution. So we often get confused about where our signals coming from. So a neat story on this is one of my many years, over 10 years ago, now, before I got married, I went on a first date rock climbing, right? And we will rock climbing indoor climbing gym was amazing chemistry, we're all pumped up amazing. Turns out didn't work. So well. We weren't suited to each other. But on that first date, it felt amazing, right? And that I realized a couple of years later, was this arousal, Miss attribution? So when you're rock climbing, or you got adrenaline, you're high up off the ground, you're falling swing back in, right? You're feeling all this heart rates high. And humans are just lousy at knowing where these signals come from. So what happens is you think this, you feeling this way because of the other person? And you're not at all you're feeling it because
Nick VinZant 11:30
of the rock climbing. Now the end that airmen smile, what's that? Yes, that's
Dr. Joel Pearson 11:34
mastery. So that's so that's around learning. So I mentioned before that the way we I think about in the way we talk about intuition is that we have to learn these associations, like all the things in the cafe, right, the tablecloth, the music, whatever it is, what predicts good or bad coffee, for example. So you have to learn that, and it takes time to learn that. So the idea is, if you've never had coffee, never been to a cafe before, you're not going to have intuition for good or bad cafes, right? You walk into a cafe, any feelings you have aren't gonna be useful. Right? So you need to have some mastery at something before you can start relying on your intuition. And I, yeah, that's my impulses and addiction. So importantly, when we're dealing with addictive substances, you know, drugs, alcohol, smoking, but also, you know, gambling, social media, checking your email, the draw the pull towards these things can feel a lot like intuition, right? Can feel natural, this urge, whenever another drink, I want to check my my social media, whatever it might be. And that's not intuition. And we shouldn't confuse the two. And we shouldn't try and use the idea of natural intuition as an excuse to go into towards these addictive things.
Nick VinZant 12:49
How about the L and the E. So L is for low probability.
Dr. Joel Pearson 12:53
But it really is really for all probability, probabilistic thinking. So numbers. So we're just really bad human brains aren't developed or evolved or just just lousy at trying to understand numbers. So especially things that are low probability we're just not good at right. So we think of, you know, I'm here in Sydney, Australia, and we've got a fantastic beaches, that people get freaked out about sharks, right? You go for a swim, and you start, you know, especially if you're my age, you hear the jaws music, right? You imagine the sharks swimming underneath you, and you get out of the water, right? But the probability of us being bitten by a shark is so low, right? It's lower than being in a car accident, or being in a fatal car accident, it's, it's something we don't really need to worry about, even if you swim a lot. But we fall for the trap that it's easy to imagine, right? It's emotive, we can imagine a shark, it's fear centers of the brain become active. And it's kind of scary. So things that are easy to imagine, will confuse and think they're more likely to happen, basically. So we get probabilities, they're totally wrong. Like the things we should be worried about a more like cardiac event, like heart attacks, these kinds of things. When you ask people what they're scared of, they say public speaking sharks, you know, things like that, right? Not the things that can actually really hurt us. We'll just feel a sense for something and it'll be misleading. So the general rule here is just avoid using your intuition for anything around probabilities, numbers, right? gamblers fallacy is another one, if you're in a casino, you know, playing roulette, and you sit, you know, yet three or four or five blacks in a row, you're going to start thinking about a red has to come up now. Right? And that's totally wrong, because each spin of the wheel is completely independent to the last one. But it's so hard to believe that because you feel like there's been five blacks, you know, it's begging for a red now there just has to be a red coming up next. So the ease for environment and that that really links back to the end for learning. So the kinds of learning we're talking about here, this is you know, associative learning good old Pavlov's dogs, right? The classical conditioning In good old Psych 101 stuff. And so you're learning these cues for the environment and what they predict good or bad outcomes. And importantly, this kind of learning is context, environment specific, which turns out, it's important if you think about it. So if you've mastered intuition in the workplace in your office, right, and then you go home, part of that learning is location specific. So it actually won't transfer that well to different environments, to different locations of context. And the example I often give of that, Steve Jobs at Apple, right, because he wrote and talked about intuition, he went to India, he loved using intuition. He used it for product design for sort of directing apple in which way it will go later in life. And he had some health challenges, he made some sort of what people would call poor choices. He said no to surgery, he put that off and went for very alternative treatments, against his doctors and other people's suggestions. And so that would be an example of where, you know, you can master intuition. So well, in one domain, and at work, when it comes to your health and other areas, or different contexts. It doesn't transfer as much. And so it's an easy thing to feel to, for for when I'm traveling, I'm in a different context, right? I find it really hard to not use my intuition for for navigation, if I'm going for a run, I love running, you know, running out in the forest and trees, navigating with the sun's, you know, set rising and setting in a different place, it will confuse my navigation skills. Gestures is another one I talk about in the book where in different cultures and different countries, different gestures, thumbs up, or this kind of signal mean very different things. And so we've got to be very careful for when we've learned intuition for one thing, and then we transfer that to a different location. And interestingly, the learning is also dependent on the internal state of our bodies. Right? So the old joke is, you know, you come home, you've had a few drinks, you come home drunk, you throw your keys somewhere, the next morning, like, damn, Where are the keys, I can't find them. Right, you have a couple of drinks, again, bang, the memory comes back. So in other words, things you learn when you're drunk, you will actually remember slightly better when you're drunk again. So the internal state of your body is not just that, where you are physically, it's the internal state, if you're highly caffeinated, if you're stressed, up or down, that state gets built into the memory along with the physical location. It
Nick VinZant 17:36
kind of sounds like it lets us fill in the blanks of familiar situations, like we noticed this thing, then we know that these dominoes are going to be next. But it has to be the exact same kind of situation in some regard. Yeah,
Dr. Joel Pearson 17:50
it has to be because the learning so for that, the example I give is like if you're studying at school or university, and you're in your bedroom, studying for hours cramming for the exam, right? What you're actually learning is, is also all the information encodes the bedroom, the music, you might be listening to the smell, right, so one of the study tricks students will use is they'll try and replicate, they'll use oil or smells, incense or fragrance, or you know, like lavender or peppermint oil, have that smell while they're studying. When they go to the exam. They'll put that smell that oil back on on their wrist. So they recreate the same environment, the same smell as when they were studying, because you actually want the the testing environment and the study environment to be as similar as possible. If you're chewing gum, when you're studying, you want to be chewing gum in the exam. So you want to recreate the environment as closely as possible.
Nick VinZant 18:44
So why when you look and you look at your research, right, like, why are some people good at it? Why are some people not good at?
Dr. Joel Pearson 18:50
Yeah, great question. So this isn't we don't have the full answer for this yet. I think it has something to do with that. That internal perception, that fancy word interoception. So I think some people have stronger emotional responses, and they're more sensitive to their internal state. So in other words, the same thing might be happening in their body. But some people don't know, whoa, I'm feeling this heavy feeling the sinking feeling in my gut. I don't trust this person. Someone else, their body's still responding, but they're like, I have no idea. They just don't feel it. So just the same way that some people more sensitive, visually, optically perceptually, they can look at, their eyesight is much better, they can see things much better. People are better, some people are better at this internal perception. And that's going to make a difference, right? You're much more sensitive, over years and years of making decisions. You're just going to start noticing these feelings and you're gonna start trying to use them to help you decision making naturally. So you're gonna learn to practice intuition just by yourself if you're feeling it. So we think that's the answer. But we haven't really nailed that with experiments yet. That's what we want to work on next. It
Nick VinZant 20:00
just seemed like a hard thing to be like, Okay, how can you really measure and study this?
Dr. Joel Pearson 20:05
So early in the evolution of intuition as a science, it's a young science. In other words. And when I talk to a lot of, you know, leaders and business CEOs, they're a little shy about saying they use intuition for big decisions. In private, they'll say, Absolutely, I use intuition for huge decisions, I have to, I don't have time to get all the information, the information is ambiguous at best. So I have to make these gut responses. But there's still a little bit embarrassed about being public about that going to telling the board telling the general public, that's how they'll make big decisions. So part of my reason for for talking about this for writing this book intuition toolkit is to change that to Bucha. To try and make intuition as legitimate science, something that we can understand something that we have a guide to. And if people follow these five rules, then we can, more or less trust their decision making. And it's not woowoo or spiritual or magical for a CEO to say, you know, no, I use my intuition for this decision. I follow the science, and it's all good. It's the best decision I can make.
Nick VinZant 21:08
Are you ready? For some harder slash listener submitted questions? Absolutely. Bring it on? Yeah. Who's better men or women? Oh, great
Dr. Joel Pearson 21:15
question. Yeah, that people love asking there. So it turns out when you ask people, How intuitive Are you self reporting, women report being more intuitive and report that they think they're better at making intuition, they use it more often, they also score higher, more, much higher on what's called magical thinking. This is sort of the believing in magic, but also be more spiritual and a whole range of other things. In general, generally speaking, men report being more rational and being more logical in their decision making. Here's the caveat, except when it comes to sport, and gambling. So when it comes to gambling around sport, all of a sudden, in that narrow topic, on average, again, men report all sudden doing various superstitious and magical thinking, you know, they, they cross their fingers, they cross their legs, they wish this and wish that their team is going to win. So what we want to do next is start testing people, men and women, in our lab based measurements, to try and get a more accurate understanding of, of, is one sex or one gender better, or different races better. And why? Because their sort of intuition is also more respected or less respected in different cultures. Often in Asian style cultures, it is more respect. And people look up to intuition and respect it more generally speaking, than in Western cultures. So that's something interesting as well.
Nick VinZant 22:42
Have you ever seen somebody that was like an outlier and the Savant of intuition, funnily
Dr. Joel Pearson 22:48
enough that we aren't, we've just launched this brand new experiment. So it's a big study, through generally, big donation to university philanthropy. I can't go into the details yet, because it's just beginning. But that's exactly what we're looking into. And it does seem that some people are off the chart with this. Now, we don't really understand why or how what's going on yet. But there does seem to be exactly what you said, Nicholas. So there's these outlier people that are just really good at this,
Nick VinZant 23:17
then I would imagine the opposite is true, though, to that there's also people who are just absolutely terrible at it. Yeah.
Dr. Joel Pearson 23:22
So when we give people questionnaires, some people will say, Yeah, I have, I feel no intuition, I make all my decisions very rationally, logically, pros and cons list. When we get them into the lab, and we test them in our objective, reliable lab based measure for intuition, they don't really get a boost for these unconscious positive or negative images, they just don't seem to be able to utilize that information. So it makes no difference whether you add those images in, take them away, the decision making stays the same, or as people who report making everyday intuitive decisions in their life. When we get them into the lab, they get a big boost from these unconscious images. So the way people feel like they make everyday decisions does seem to be related to the architecture of the brain, the way we're measuring this in the lab, this kind of thing. So yeah, there is a big distribution here. And people at both ends of the spectrum
Nick VinZant 24:17
kind of talked a little bit about this before, but I asked the question because it got asked to us, or their air, like what areas do people seem to be strongest in intuition? What areas do they seem to be weakest? The
Dr. Joel Pearson 24:29
weakest I would say is when those five rules aren't met. Right? So anything around probabilities, bang, we get we get totally wrong, right? So that's, that's why I sort of developed this framework and these rules, so things like that. So there's some cognitive biases, which sort of lead us astray when we think about numbers. So probably the probabilistic thinking is one of the areas where we're absolutely the worst. Then I would also say that we do about the environment and learning. What I didn't mention before is, if the environment is random, there's nothing to learn. And this, this is the like the casino, right? If the roulette wheel is random, you can't learn to predict that your intuition has nothing to learn because it's random. So in random environments like that, we have to be careful because we can't learn a pattern. But we may not realize we may still have false alarms when it comes to intuition. And I came up with this word, I call this Miss intuition, as in a misfiring of intuition. So when we feel like we get intuition, but it's totally wrong, and it leads us astray, like the Steve Jobs example. So I call that Miss intuition. So that's a word I coined, to cut to talk about when things go wrong. And when we should not follow our intuition. At its best for predictable reliable environments, things that we can learn pretty easily when all those five rules are met, when we're pretty calm. Also, something that is also part of that is the learning process. So if you're, if you're making decisions about things that take a long time to get the feedback, you've thought about buying a house, maybe it takes you a year to really feel like you know, it's a good house or a bad house, you're buying stocks for the long term, you don't know whether you've made a good choice for months maybe. And so it's very hard to learn with this very slow feedback system. Whereas if you're playing sport, you make a choice, you get the feedback, immediately you get tackled, or you get knocked over whatever it is. So you can get feedback straight away. And you're making you know, hundreds of 1000s of decisions over and over and over. So when that feedback loop, that whole process is really fast. The learnings accelerated? Do
Nick VinZant 26:45
you? Is there any research in the sense of like, okay, well, people are right, this amount of times?
Dr. Joel Pearson 26:51
Ah, not not with any hard numbers, I would just say, because it depends on too many variables depends on their state. What the, what they're making the decision about? You know, it just depends on too many things.
Nick VinZant 27:04
That would be the thing, because I think that all of us have those experience where, like, I noticed something was off. But I didn't react to it in any way. Like, I just kept going about it. And even though in hindsight, I think back and like, oh, I should have noticed something then and done something, then I never make that change and start to be like, no, wait, stop here. Focus on that thing that you just noticed was odd. But why do I never like make that change? Like, why don't I ever learn from my mistakes? I guess,
Dr. Joel Pearson 27:34
right? It's a matter of practice, daily practice, learn to do that to stop and take a moment, you don't have to figure out what's, you know, what about the 100 variables are the 100 things that that's triggering this feeling, just note the feeling, you know, decide whether you're gonna follow it or not. And just keep an eye and just make a few notes about it later. And then over time, the idea is to see those the decisions improve. That's the way I think, the best approach to intuition of a daily practice, internalize those five rules. So you don't have to think about them. But first, you will have to, it'll be some effort involved. And just practice intuition, small decisions, build them up over time. And then you'll find that when you get that feeling, when something's about to happen, you won't ignore it, you'll start following it, right? And you'll begin to trust it. And you'll know when to trust it, when not to trust it. So
Nick VinZant 28:26
that's pretty much all the questions that I have. Is there anything I know the book is coming out? What's the name? Where can people get it, that kind of stuff. So
Dr. Joel Pearson 28:33
it's going to be called the intuition toolkit in Australia and New Zealand. In the UK, it's just gonna be called intuition. That shorter title. Right now it's not the US version is not out right now. People can buy and get it shipped from the UK or Australia. If people liked the sound, the dulcet tones of sounds of my, you know, calming, relaxing voice, the audio book will be out as well at Audible and other sources. And that's read by me, so people can download that. Yeah, and so I mean, I'm on a mission to try and basically improve people's lives through better decision making right and trying to bring mix this this idea of his rational, logical decision making with a feeling the spiritual, the softer side of humans and bring those two things together.
Nick VinZant 29:22
I want to thank Dr. Pearson So much for joining us if you want to connect with him. We have linked to him on our social media sites, or Profoundly Pointless on tick tock, Instagram and YouTube. And we've also included his information along with a link to his new book in the episode description. Okay, now let's bring in John Shaw, and get to the pointless part of the show. Do you think that your life would be easier if you were younger or older? Same situation, just a younger or older version version of yourself.
John Shull 30:01
My immediate reaction is say is to say younger because if it was the same circumstances, I'd rather be younger than older for sure to deal with all with everything we deal with on a daily basis as being a father, employee, taxpaying citizen.
Nick VinZant 30:19
I feel like I'm actually in a situation where my life would be easier if I was older, because I'm hitting like the early stages of a midlife crisis. And I don't really know what to do. So I feel like an older version of me would be wiser. But otherwise, I would say younger.
John Shull 30:37
Do you need to talk about it? Do you need to tell us what's on your mind? And what's been weighing you down? No.
Nick VinZant 30:42
Midlife crisis, man, when you approach it, it's weird. It's like starting your life over again, but with less options.
John Shull 30:49
So are you just in the gym eight hours a day just listening to disturbed and just
Nick VinZant 30:55
know I'm not like buying a Corvette.
John Shull 30:58
I mean, just for the age aspect alone, I would rather be younger. Because finality is scary, right? I feel like when you're younger, no matter what situation you're put in for most people, it's like, Oh, I'll get through it. Or I can break my arm. And in three months, I'll be fine. Or, you know, I'll get a better paying job. At some point. It's, you know, I feel like obviously, the older that get you get those options, that time goes away or becomes more precious. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 31:28
I would agree that most of the time, it would be younger. And I asked our audience about this same question. 60% said their life would be easier if they were younger. 20% said it would be easier if they're older 21% said it would be the same either way. So I agree that most of the time, it would be better if you were younger. But I think there are some circumstances where an older version of you would probably handle a big decision better.
John Shull 31:54
I don't want to speak for everybody. But I feel like most people would not make some of the decisions that they made, you know, to get to where they were, if they could go back to being younger. I
Nick VinZant 32:04
would like to know what my options are. That's what I want on my deathbed. Like, if we go somewhere else, I would like to somebody to just like, sit down and be like, Look, here's all the things that you could have done or been or whatever, like, choose your own adventure, and they ran through all the different possibilities of your life, I think that would be the coolest thing in the world. No, that's what I want.
John Shull 32:24
I would not I mean, I would want that now. Because maybe, you know, I'd be able to achieve some of those. I don't want to know all the regrets that I could have as I'm like, dying. That's not a way to go to die.
Nick VinZant 32:39
Oh, I just want to know what the possibilities are man, like, oh, you know, what, if you did this, you could have been President. And if you did this, you would have been the most hated man in the world. Yeah, no, I'm good. Might be the same thing. Right?
John Shull 32:53
I mean, we're not going to talk politics yet. But regardless, um, no, I would not want to that's I am a strong No, on that one. I would, I would just want them to pull the plug of like, somebody came up to me and was like, Well, John, when you were 18, if you would have done this and that you would have been married to, you know, Shakira, like, I don't want to know that, you know, as I'm dying.
Nick VinZant 33:19
Yeah, but you don't think that that would be kind of interesting. I think that'd be cool. To be like, you know, what, if you would have done this, like, this would have happened, and that would have happened. And even if it was like a little thing, like, you know, what, if you would have gotten Cherry Coke, instead of regular Coke here, your whole life would have been different. I
John Shull 33:38
mean, I once again i It's fine. I would just rather know now, you know, like at 40. Have someone come tell me all the things they've screwed up or opportunities I miss now. So maybe then I'd be more open to doing things differently in my last 12 years.
Nick VinZant 33:57
If you think about it, that's, yeah, well, you had the gym now. Oh, my God. 13, maybe 14. Dude, we're not doing this. We're not doing this because you just want to go down the road of talking about your basement, the weather or now that you're going to the gym?
John Shull 34:12
Can I just guys tell one story it made it warms my heart and I feel
Nick VinZant 34:16
like okay, fine. Thank you. Tell your gem store,
John Shull 34:19
keep the 60 seconds. So I just do cardio now, right? I'm a guy. I'm a big guy. Like I don't need to have any more mass. None of that. Right. So I do cardio. And I go to Planet Fitness. And obviously most of the cardio machines overlook the weights and whatnot. Just this past week, there it was very early in the morning. And this woman is on like a lap machine. It's the machine that you pull back towards your your body and you know, you tend to your backup and whatever works out your back muscles. Well, some guy had the great idea of basically setting up a mat next to her. And like he started doing crunches. And I was like well that's like yeah, like I'm close
Nick VinZant 34:58
next to like how we need I need to know how close what is the physical distance between the two of
John Shull 35:03
them? I'm gonna say six feet.
Nick VinZant 35:07
That's not crazy. No, but that's
John Shull 35:10
when there's 14 people in the entire place. And you set up and they were not together by the way, they were not together. Oh,
Nick VinZant 35:20
it was noticeably like, you could have done that. Yeah, well, okay, I have one addendum there. There is at the gym that I go to a treadmill that I like, and I'll get on that, but apologize to the person next to me if I don't already know them because I go at the same time, and there's regulars there and all that kind of stuff. And I'll be like, Look, sorry, I really like this one. Does it bother you if I'm next to you?
John Shull 35:44
I mean, I get that that to me. It did not appear that way. Anyways, okay. Okay, long story short, he does maybe six crunches. And then he gets up and he goes over and grabs a 25 pound plate. And I'm like, Oh, this is gonna get interesting. What's he going to do with this thing? He puts it on his stomach. And he's gonna like do weighted crunches. But he's not like, he's not like the most in shape guy. So anyways, he goes to lift his head up one time, and the weight slides off onto his left side. And all I see is like him jumped to his feet and like, hold his side. Ah, he
Nick VinZant 36:22
got he tried to play it cool. Instead, look the fool. Oh,
John Shull 36:26
yeah, that's the best way to do the best part about it. It was this woman was like having none of it. He got up, put, put the plate back, came back, grabbed his mat went somewhere else and she just is continuing her sets. didn't even ask him. I don't think if he was okay. It was amazing.
Nick VinZant 36:42
I don't unless I don't make eye contact with people. I don't look at people at the gym. I don't do anything like that. We're not talking about the gym. Okay, we're talking about it's fine.
John Shull 36:51
You know, I hope other people out there are inspired by us and go and go get exercise. Right. It's important. Anyways.
Nick VinZant 36:59
Okay, glad you finally realized that after 36 years, he's not sure. Well, that's not true. Now you're going to be the workout guy like, Hey, man, you really got to you know what, you really got to start working out right? Because I've been doing that for a week and a half and let me tell you about how great it is. I
John Shull 37:13
used to work out and I got married. I met you started drinking. Married uses anyways, is a bad if I walk up to people and I tell them what they're doing wrong.
Nick VinZant 37:23
Yeah, you can't do that. I would never tell anyone what. Yeah, I would never. If somebody put 900 pounds on their back and tried to like lift it in this twisting. jerking motion. I'd be like, Oh, no, I wouldn't say anything. Like Alright, man. I'll call the paramedics when that doesn't go well for you. I'm not saying any I legit
John Shull 37:41
to stand there or keep doing my cardio. Just watch these events unfold. It's amazing. All right, we Oh, shout outs already. I'm kind of excited about the back end of this little segment we do here because our top five is busy day. It's a busy day for us chefs kiss I think of top fives coming up for us. All right. Okay. Let's do some shout outs first, shall we? Paul Shoka appreciate you. Angelo show green. Giovanni Hernandez. Scott Streeter Christina to net. Parker zali pretty sure it screwed up that last name but hey, I gave to college try Leanna Solano. Let's see here. Taha is a good Haley felon Randy Herskowitz. good buddy of ours longtime listener and Rob Palooza appreciate all of you that gave us a shout out check this out. Yeah, you know, Niko is promos, our social media so much better than me, so I'll let I'll let him do it. When the episode comes out, but Yeah, appreciate you.
Nick VinZant 38:46
I like the Randy's a solid name. There's not it's another one of those names that there can't be a lot of them but like Randy, Cody, okay, I can I can take a couple of those can't be a lot of them. But that's all right. Like you never want to have to Randy's in one class. Randy
John Shull 39:02
is a great name. I've always liked Randy. Whether it whether it be for you know,
Nick VinZant 39:07
Randy, Randy, Randy. Coming at Randy, Randy. Right. Yeah, you like it's got to be a name that is both serious and fun and slightly unique. This is
John Shull 39:18
just for him. But random color anyways. All right. You ready?
Nick VinZant 39:22
You call another man? You say that to another man.
John Shull 39:26
I mean, it's it's rare. But yes, that has been said plenty of times. He should punch you directly in the face. Probably for many more things than me saying that but yes, he probably should. So alright. So if you're just listening to us for the first time basically this next segment, I pick 10 random things off the top of my head and I just have Nick react to them. So here we go. Let's start with sea lions.
Nick VinZant 39:57
I used to have sea lions living next To my house, I live in Seattle, I live fairly close to the sound where you can hear sea lions. They're massive. And then somebody, some jerk who didn't like looking at the sea lions put up a special thing and scared away the sea lions. And now I can't walk down and see the sea lions anymore. And I really hate the fact that it takes only a few people to ruin things for everybody.
John Shull 40:23
I have a lot of questions. This isn't really that kind of segment. But I just want to know what was put up to get the sea lions away. There
Nick VinZant 40:31
was like a flat floating small dock and they took these big rubber ish things that basically make like a half circle, and they put it on top of it to keep the sea lions from resting on it, because they didn't want them near their private boat. But anyway, the sea lions came back and they figured it out. You always lose against Mother Nature. Remember that? Nature will always beat you. Drop
John Shull 40:54
the mic episode over. Just kidding. All right. Ah, syrup.
Nick VinZant 41:01
Oh, it's good. I love it. I love it. But really, it's very it's a it is a great thing, but it's very limited. You can really only put syrup in my opinion on pancakes and waffles. That is an incredibly tasting thing that only goes on to things. You can't put it on anything else without having some dietary problems.
John Shull 41:20
Speaking speaking to a pro here, right?
Nick VinZant 41:23
I can't like you can't be putting syrup on potatoes or something like that. Like no, you don't put it on your eggs, man. You're gonna go down a bad road.
John Shull 41:30
Martin Sheen. Which one is he? He's the he's the dad.
Nick VinZant 41:39
But is he the dad of both Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estefan as devas? Yes,
John Shull 41:44
I believe if I'm not mistaken, they have different mothers but he is their father.
Nick VinZant 41:49
Which one do you think he's prouder of? Charlie is definitely more famous and has been in more movies. But the other one is not Charlie. Like Which one do you think Martin Sheen is more proud of? I mean, really? Hello, Charlie. Thinking
John Shull 42:03
of it from a father perspective. I feel like Charlie Sheen has probably kept him up more at night. Probably cost him more money as an adult. Yeah, he's
Nick VinZant 42:12
probably cost him a lot more.
John Shull 42:13
But also the same time you're like, Charlie fucking lived life. He lived at heart. Yeah.
Nick VinZant 42:18
Do you want like, the hard partying? Badass Wellington a badass, but you know what I mean? Like, do you want the kind of hard part? Do you want the rebel kid? Or do you want the good kid? Like, who are you secretly a little bit more proud of? I
John Shull 42:34
mean, once again, I feel like I would want the rebel kid but only but you know, I have a rebel kid in there. And she's disastrous. I was wrong. By the way. Martin Sheen has been married to the same woman since 1961. And they have four children. So Emilio and Charlie are, you know, say Mom, same dad.
Nick VinZant 42:53
That's a long Hollywood marriage that's got to be set in the records so that he just changed his name so he wasn't a sheen. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that's all right. Right. Did some movie that wasn't okay. Anyway,
John Shull 43:04
his name is actually Ramon Antonio Gerardo esta vez if you care to know
Nick VinZant 43:10
All right, wait a minute if he's married to the same woman, how does he have a different name? I
John Shull 43:15
mean, I I'm not going to read why he changed his last name machine for God's sake. But he Oh,
Nick VinZant 43:21
his Oh, Butch Martin Sheen's real name is in sheen. He changed his name. Yeah. And the other guy kept the real name.
Unknown Speaker 43:26
Yeah. Okay. Yes. All
Nick VinZant 43:28
right. Now this makes
John Shull 43:29
sense. Let's see Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Nick VinZant 43:35
Oh, he goes and peaks and valleys, more or less biggest movie star in the world at one time, then he kind of fade away then he kind of came back. But he's you have to give that man credit. He has been very good at just about everything that he has done one way or another. made some mistakes
John Shull 43:53
but right I mean, yeah, he he has made some mistakes but World Champion weightlifter, biggest a Lister bodybuilder, whatever. I mean, obviously the governor of California, I mean, dudes done some stuff.
Nick VinZant 44:11
It is amazing to me that when it kind of comes to like handing out things in life, so to speak, some people get all of it. Like they get everything. And then some people just get nothing.
John Shull 44:23
I mean, some would, I don't know. Some would say it's work ethic. Genes, how you're born, but I don't think I think Arnold was not born into a you know, he was not born into a wealthy known family. I don't think like he worked his way from Austria. I don't want to say over here because it's not like that's great or that but you know, like he worked his way into Hollywood, and everything and yeah, I think he's earned everything he's ever had so good for him. Okay, I'll be back. Ice Cream Sandwiches.
Nick VinZant 44:55
Why? Why just eat the I would. I don't this is okay. I don't understand the need for any other dessert besides chocolate ice cream or different varieties of chocolate ice cream, every dessert should just be chocolate ice cream, because it's better than anything else. It's okay. It's better than anything else. It's like giving people a gift. And you can either have the $100 bill, the 50, the 20, the five or the one. Well, I'd rather have the 100 Give him the 100. Chocolate ice cream is the best dessert and it should be every dessert in my opinion.
John Shull 45:26
What if it was a chocolate ice cream sandwich?
Nick VinZant 45:29
Don't care. Get rid of it. Just a waste? What's the point? What's the point of the ice cream sandwich? It does nothing and adds very little.
John Shull 45:36
Alright, I really just put this on here because I know what you're gonna say. But I think it'd be funny. The Grammys
Nick VinZant 45:46
were they on? I don't understand why people care about award shows like I that boggles my mind maybe to see people or something like that, if nothing else is on but like, I don't care if you want an award.
John Shull 46:01
I mean, great. But someone say that's what our culture is based off of. That's how we, you know, that's how we define someone's career is by accolades.
Nick VinZant 46:11
I don't think that aside from maybe music, I don't think any of my favorite media is an award winning, like none of my favorite movies or Academy Award winning movies.
John Shull 46:26
I mean, well, yeah. I mean, it's I agree with you, by the way. I mean, we could talk about this for hours, but I I also don't agree with award shows. I don't think they represent what the people want.
Nick VinZant 46:36
Right? Right. So to the people, all
John Shull 46:41
right, aviator sunglasses.
Nick VinZant 46:45
You better be a pilot, and you better be a fighter pilot, and you better be like one of the good fighter pilots, right? Like, I'm not even talking. You can't even be fine. Like a bomber. You got to be fine, like an F something. And then you can do it. Otherwise. No,
John Shull 46:59
just an F something has to be an F F something. Yeah. All right. What about the the flask tie?
Nick VinZant 47:09
I don't even know what that is. There's a tie. That's also a flask. Yes. I think we have enough. I don't think that you really need that. Right. Okay. Nobody really needs that. There's plenty of ways to drink in this country. I don't think we have a problem with access. No matter how old you are. There's not an access problem. Okay. He's not
John Shull 47:31
grunting at the gym.
Nick VinZant 47:36
You better be doing you better be doing more than me.
John Shull 47:41
Because if they're not, what are you gonna do? Nothing.
Nick VinZant 47:43
You can't be over there. Okay, now I have to tell him like God dang it, dude. Now I have to tie my tell my gym story. Yes, it's gonna sound condescending and mean. But it's not. It's just funny to me because I have two boys. And so I go to a gym. And there's recently been like, there's some reason there's a bunch of high school guys that come in. And they're all I don't know how old 1617 Whatever. And they're in there working out. But one thing that happens is you get old man strength, like a grown man is just stronger than a young man. And so there'll be in there like grunting out, looking at their muscles, flexing in the mirror and benching, like 65 pounds, and I just find it hilarious. And they're like grunt he's like, oh, man, you got the 10s on there. You got to start somewhere, man. You got to start somewhere. No matter where you start. It's best to get started. Just exercise is great for you. But I just I do find it hilarious. And if you're going to be grunting as an adult, you better be doing more than me.
John Shull 48:43
I just always like fine, like the, you know, grunting I'm okay with that, like in tennis. You know, and no, no,
Nick VinZant 48:53
I'm not a fan of grunting at all. I think that if you're really good at something, it should be effortless. I don't think that you should be grunting
John Shull 49:02
Alright, last thing here, the baby mop.
Nick VinZant 49:07
What are these things that you're even talking about?
John Shull 49:09
People have brought them up to me in the last week. And I didn't think they were real. But when you google them, they are actual products. The flask tie that we just talked about
Nick VinZant 49:18
the baby mom. You literally
John Shull 49:21
put the baby in like this little carrier thing and it has like mop tassels on it. And they crawl on the floor and they can clean your floor.
Nick VinZant 49:32
Well, that's just doing two things poorly. You're not taking care of your child and you're probably not cleaning the floor, right? Like anytime that you're multitasking. You're doing one thing poorly at least one thing poor. I mean, I'm against multitasking in general.
John Shull 49:46
I'm gonna see here I mean, I'm looking at it right now you can buy it at Walmart while Walmart looks like about the only
Nick VinZant 49:53
the only kind of that's just ridiculous. The only kind of multitasking that I'm okay with is reading on the toilet? Otherwise you should do one thing at one time.
John Shull 50:07
Yeah, I guess it's fine. I'm cool with it. I mean, I would never buy, I might buy the flat tire at some point in my life, but I would never buy the baby mop. Because, like,
Nick VinZant 50:17
like you said, that's one of those purchases, either the flat tire or the baby mop. You have said something about your life, you have just told people that you have problems.
John Shull 50:27
I mean, they aren't going to clean. They really they know either way, I'm going to have to be the one that cleans it. So I might as well just go into an adult mop.
Nick VinZant 50:35
So what are you going to do to get the job done correctly? You're going to spray the floor with chemicals. No,
John Shull 50:41
we have it's Well, I mean, I have a Swiffer.
Nick VinZant 50:45
Right but what's the baby doing? Don't you need to put some sort of cleaning product on the baby to actually get the thing clean. So you just dousing your child and cleaning supplies. The point
John Shull 50:55
of this this segment is not for you to overthink this so that I'm not
Nick VinZant 51:00
overthinking it. That's two seconds of thinking that's a bad idea. Let's just move on to some idiots gonna put like bleach all over their baby. Probably already happened. You know? That's it's probably already happened. Is that your thing? You got all 10 of them? Yeah,
John Shull 51:17
that's it. We're on to all
Nick VinZant 51:19
What's that sound? Oh watch it's time. The Outlaw candle connoisseur Rides Again. Candle of a month.
John Shull 51:34
I love it. I love the intro. Alright, we're gonna we're gonna take a trip down memory lane here we're gonna go to maybe two years ago. I got this candle didn't even realize I had it. And I was I've done a disservice to myself. I don't even remember how I got this candle who gave it to me. But it's by the poured Candle Company. I believe they are on their online only from my research. The scent this month, because it's February. It's going to be 55 degrees here this week in Metro Detroit. So I needed something a little. You know, it's like spring almost in February, which is insane because February is usually Metro Detroit school this month. Eternal springs.
Nick VinZant 52:21
Ooh, I liked the name. All right. All right. Tell me about the flavor profile. The scent profile.
John Shull 52:26
So in the description says it's inspired by the beautiful springs of downtown Bonita Springs, Florida. So,
Nick VinZant 52:34
no, I've been to downtown Bonita That sounds terrible. Well,
John Shull 52:38
I'll tell you that has undertones of it's very earthy. It's gonna hit you with a very earthy, okay, it's a soy candle. So, the wax, the wax is a little thicker. It's about eight and a half ounces is going to burn for about 40 hours, which if you've listened to my candle, the month you know that that's a pretty good burn time for an eight ounce candle. But in terms of undertones, you're gonna get some sage, you're gonna maybe get like a little bit of lavender lavender hits pretty strong on this one. So you have to like lavender, but it's just gonna it's gonna, it's gonna call me it's going to escape your body. To eternal springs. It's amazing. It's a good candle. I think it's I don't know about 25 bucks I was looking at. It's a little pricey. But yeah, Port candle company.com. Check them out. They I haven't tried any of their other stuff, but I am a moving forward.
Nick VinZant 53:33
How when you are deciding when? Or what when you are deciding on a candle? Like how long are you going to read the description? You feel like you're more of a gut decision maker, you're going to think about it.
John Shull 53:45
Well, since I've started doing this, you know, I think I mentioned this, the brick and mortar stores I would just walk into and buy like the 242 or four ounce sample sizes. I'll buy two dozen of them at a time I'll buy every, every every kind they have. But obviously if you're going a little bit fancier, if you're going a little bit more expensive online or whatnot, I take my time, I try to try to fill out things that maybe I've never smelled or things that I haven't heard of before. And just give them a try.
Nick VinZant 54:18
Okay, okay.
John Shull 54:20
All right. So there is are you ready for our top?
Nick VinZant 54:23
Are you ready for our top five?
John Shull 54:25
I was confident but it's I don't know. This is tough. This might be the toughest harder on top five we've ever done. So
Nick VinZant 54:31
okay, so our top five is top five action movie one liners. What's your number five.
John Shull 54:38
There's there's literally so many. So I don't even know where to start. So I guess my my list is going to be kind of a personal list because I don't know. I don't know how else to do it. But so my number five is from they live. Shout out to Rowdy Roddy Piper when he said As I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubblegum.
Nick VinZant 55:06
That is, that's like one of the most memorable lines. It is like everybody remembers that is that the same movie where he like knees the guy in the crotch for 30 minutes.
John Shull 55:15
Know that that's the movie where like the he refers differently he shoots and then rips off the face of an alien. And like you can see the aliens face and skull it's it's pretty, pretty memorable that Roddy Piper when he's actually saying that line is wearing like orange oranges, red flannel with these dark sunglasses on like it's very memorable, very memorable scene.
Nick VinZant 55:41
I'm gonna go mine number one is from Blade five. Number five. Oh, wait. Yeah, right, right. My number five is from Blade. Some people are always trying to ice skate uphill. I love that line. I still alive when I see somebody trying to do something. When I see somebody doing something the wrong way. I always think of that line from Blade. Some people are always trying to ice skate uphill. I just
John Shull 56:08
love that you gave like the best, you know, superhero. Some love.
Nick VinZant 56:15
Blades a great movie. That's got to be one of the most underrated movies of all time. It's a great movie get does not get enough credit.
John Shull 56:21
I feel like neither does Wesley Snipes as an actor, but doesn't matter.
Nick VinZant 56:26
I don't know. That I think he gets about the appropriate amount. He's not a great actor, or doesn't really seem like a great person either. So anyway, alright,
John Shull 56:35
my number four from the movie Jaws. You're gonna need a bigger boat.
Nick VinZant 56:45
Is that an action? One liner?
John Shull 56:46
Yeah, because it's what? Yes, by far it's a one liner. Why? What else would it be?
Nick VinZant 56:55
I feel like it's gotta be like, after they like they gotta say something to let the bad guys know that they just won.
John Shull 57:01
No, I mean, they're being attacked by a great white shark. And, and the actor stands up and he goes, We're gonna need a bigger but
Nick VinZant 57:13
it is a great movie. You forget like how good that movie is. And that guy is probably one of the best characters in that movie. Um, my number four is one. I don't. I don't really want to admit this. But Independence Day. Welcome to Earth. Oh, Miss punches that alien. Welcome to Earth. I am like, yeah, I are.
John Shull 57:35
I am so happy are so happy you put that on the list. I I neglected that from my top five.
Nick VinZant 57:42
Oh, it's, it's, it's worthy. It's a great line. Welcome to Earth. So
John Shull 57:49
I know that like there's there's so many that should be on the list. I know that and we'll talk about them in my honorable mention or your mention. But I have to put this on the list and I can't put it in the top two. So for my number three, I'm going with Rocky four, where Ivan Drago looks at Sylvester Stallone and goes if he dies, he dies.
Nick VinZant 58:12
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good that's that's that's that's great. Layout guys. He dies if you owe me and this guy doesn't care at all right?
John Shull 58:24
This guy's fucking robot so that's just alone stands no chance.
Nick VinZant 58:28
Shout out to Carl Weathers rip.
John Shull 58:33
Rip jobs. He
Nick VinZant 58:36
made a lot of movies though. I don't know if he was a good actor. But when he was in a movie, you were like, Okay, well, it can't be that bad. Yeah, I
John Shull 58:44
mean, it's gonna be bad. He just seemed to have career reasserted like resurgences when he needed them every time. Like, Happy Gilmore, right. I don't know what he was doing. Oh, yeah. And the midnight did kind of come back. And the 80s He did all obviously all the action movies. And then you know, I don't know what he did really in the 2000s. And then he latched on to the Star Wars universe and on Disney prime or whatever.
Nick VinZant 59:12
He came back around, he would always come back around. Um my number three I don't remember which one it is from. God. Dang it. My number three. Okay. Indiana Jones, no ticket. When he punches the guy and throws him out of the window. He's like, no ticket. No ticket. I love that. No ticket.
John Shull 59:39
Yeah, I you know, surprisingly enough. I don't have any Indiana Jones anywhere. Not even I'm an animal veteran.
Nick VinZant 59:46
That's not a movie. That's not a franchise that really had a lot of them. That's not not not a ton of them. No ticket.
John Shull 59:55
I'm gonna get tons of heat for this. But I sincerely think Think Indiana Jones is an overrated movie franchise.
Nick VinZant 1:00:05
Or it's got a lot of nostalgia they really ruined it with like anything. Aside from the first three movies, or maybe even the first two movies, I always get confused. It's Raiders of the Lost Ark. Temple of Doom and then Last Crusade? Oh,
John Shull 1:00:21
no, you're asking the wrong person.
Nick VinZant 1:00:22
Okay. All right, number two,
John Shull 1:00:25
my number two. I'll be back.
Nick VinZant 1:00:33
I personally don't have that on my top five or my honorable mention. I think that's overrated because he's not really like, he didn't just beat somebody, I think to be a truly gave, I think to be a truly great line. You would he would have had to just like, take out somebody and then say that.
John Shull 1:00:52
I think the fact that he did see, I think the opposite. I think the fact that it is said in dialogue, and it has transcended time, and people associated with an action movie in action superstar is why I put it on my number and why it's my number two.
Nick VinZant 1:01:12
My number two Princess Bride. My name is Inigo Montoya. Inigo Montoya. You killed my father Prepare to die. Yes. Agree. Like yeah, he's gonna It's time. It's time best
John Shull 1:01:25
character in that movie is Andre the Giant rip. All right, alright. Curious. I mean, there's so many for number one. I went with a bullshit number one, a conservative number one, but I feel like it has to be number one. And for me, my number one is Bond. James Bond.
Nick VinZant 1:01:49
Ah, but I don't remember when he says that he say it every movie.
John Shull 1:01:53
Yeah. And it's usually when he's, you know, obviously say introducing himself to somebody but it's usually a woman. And she was the rate before some kind of big action scene. Okay, I think Daniel Craig did it during one of the action scenes in one of the newer movies if I'm not mistaken.
Nick VinZant 1:02:12
It's pretty iconic. that the problem is it's iconic, but I don't remember exactly when he says it. That's the problem.
John Shull 1:02:20
What's your number one?
Nick VinZant 1:02:22
Predator, when Arnold Schwarzenegger throws the knife gets the guys like stick around. Oh, man. That's great. The delivery on it is great. That's what I think I think to be a truly great action line. It needs to have some corniness to it. It has to be like so bad. It's good.
John Shull 1:02:40
I mean, I just want to get to my honorable mention here, which has a couple of predator quotes in it.
Nick VinZant 1:02:45
Oh, there's ton from Okay, let's go. You do one that I'll do one that's popcorn.
John Shull 1:02:49
If it bleeds, we can kill it.
Nick VinZant 1:02:53
Predator? What is that? Bread and that's predator. Yep. I'm gonna make the argument that the single greatest action movie scene is the predator machine gun scene in the jungle.
John Shull 1:03:06
I mean, I It's good. I don't know if it's the you know, I don't know. But it's good. It's a good scene for sure.
Nick VinZant 1:03:12
Um, I ain't got time to bleed. Also from Predator. And
John Shull 1:03:17
that's a great line to man. Let's see. I'll throw this one out there because this one's you know, whatever. Asa LaVista. Baby.
Nick VinZant 1:03:27
What is that one for? That's Terminator, Terminator, Terminator. They're basically all under the Swartz Nagar he he alone as the top five of this really? If you think about it, my number one or night might not honorable mention also from a terminator. No way. I think it's Commando. let off some steam Bennett. Yeah, that's when he hits him with the pipe. Yeah, the steam comes out. Right. It's got to have a certain amount of ridiculousness of it.
John Shull 1:03:52
A personal favorite of mine. From Army of Darkness. Bruce Campbell, Michigan, suburban, native, odd. The way I see you got two things going for you. Jack and shit. And Jack just left town.
Nick VinZant 1:04:09
There's another really classic one from that one though, isn't it? It's like, good bad. I'm the guy with the gun. Yeah,
John Shull 1:04:16
yep. Good bad. And there's also shop smart shop s Mart are very blows off people's heads.
Nick VinZant 1:04:25
Oh, I don't I don't remember that one. Um, I don't know if it really fits in that thing. But it's tombstone. Doc Holliday. People think that he says I'm okay. Here's the history major. Here comes a history major. So people think that he says I'm your Huckleberry, but he actually says I'm your Huckleberry, which is what they used to call pallbearers back in the day. So if you carried somebody's casket to a funeral you were a Huckleberry. So he was actually saying, I'm your Huckleberry like, I'll take you out. Obviously wasn't saying Huckleberry Merry. He says I'm your Huckleberry not Huckleberry.
John Shull 1:05:03
Well, I'll be your Huckleberry. I'm just gonna run through a couple more of mine here. All right. All right. All right, hit it. Say hello to my little friend. Scarface. Yeah. Good. Good. Avengers Assemble. But I feel like that's kind of cheating because it's, it's not like a super thought of action line, I guess.
Nick VinZant 1:05:28
They did basically put that off for like, 20 years saying that somebody had it in their mind. Like, no, no, no. Don't say it in the first movie. Wait, like 30 more movies and men. Oh, boy.
John Shull 1:05:43
Let's see. Dead or alive. You're coming with me? Robocop?
Nick VinZant 1:05:47
Go, yeah. It has to like make not a lot of sense.
John Shull 1:05:51
And then I will and like I said, I there's I mean, there's so many but the last tool say is I feel the need the Need for Speed Top Gun. And you call that a knife? This is a knife. Ah, that's a good one. Crocodile Dundee.
Nick VinZant 1:06:09
This is an eye. Yeah, I always like that one. Okay, there's some other really popular ones that I'll just run down the list of I don't really have most of them in my honorable mention. But there's some other really popular ones. Dirty Harry. Do you feel lucky? He actually says Do I feel lucky? I thought he said do you feel lucky? But he actually says Do I feel lucky? From Dirty Harry? Let's see what else. Oh, that one's on there. If he dies he dies is a great one. If he does get away from her ubitx from aliens.
John Shull 1:06:42
Oh yeah, man. That's a great line.
Nick VinZant 1:06:47
This is Sparta from 300. But I don't know about that. Die Hard up chi EA.
John Shull 1:06:57
Yeah, I did have that on my honorable mention. I just kind of skipped over it.
Nick VinZant 1:07:02
Okay, that's gonna go ahead and do it for this episode of Profoundly Pointless. I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance, leave us a quick review. We really appreciate it. It really helps us out. And with so many good movie one liners. Let us know what you think is the best. I really think it stick around. Because it's so bad. It's good. But let us know what you think. Thanks for joining us.
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