They want her to humiliate them, embarrass them and make them feel small, all because they’re a Republican. Krystal is a dominatrix who specializes in Political Humiliation. We talk the rise of political humiliation as a kink, why her clients want to be humilated because of their politics and her most unusual requets.
Then, it’s salt and pepper vs. peanut butter and jelly as we countdown the Top 5 Flavor Combinations.
Krystal: 01:20
Pointless: 28:03
Candle of the Month: 47:05
Top 5 Flavor Combinations: 52:42
Interview with Political Humiliation Dominatrix Krystal
Nick VinZant 0:12
Nick, welcome to profoundly pointless. My name is Nick VinZant Coming up in this episode, political humiliation and flavor combination.
Krystal 0:23
So I would say, yeah, they are embarrassed about it because it's not, it's not really a true reflection of what they believe. But they're doing it because everybody's doing it. The first person who really started buying all of my political clips and getting very into them, he spent about 10 grams in two days. Really, just like take my money and make fun of me for being a Republican,
Nick VinZant 0:50
I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance subscribe, leave us a rating or review. We really appreciate. It really helps us out. So I want to get right to our first guest, because she is a dominatrix who specializes in a certain kind of humiliation, one that has become much more popular recently. This is political humiliation, dominatrix crystal. So what is political humiliation?
Krystal 1:22
Political humiliation is a kink where people derive pleasure from being humiliated, specifically for their politics.
Nick VinZant 1:33
Are they embarrassed about their politics? Is that where it kind of comes from?
Krystal 1:39
Politics are so nuanced, and I think that in this day and age, being part of a certain political party is a lot more than just what that party is up to. So I would say, yeah, they are embarrassed about it because it's not, it's not really a true reflection of what they believe, but they're doing it, because everybody's doing
Nick VinZant 2:02
it. I think a way to kind of crystallize this a little bit like, take me through a session or a clip. Like, how does this work?
Krystal 2:11
So my clips are specifically catering to Republicans. I don't do any work with Democrat. Um. So for my clip, specifically, I, I kind of focus on a couple different things, um, humiliating them for the fact that they are, you know, their political beliefs are dumb. Um, I kind of go into how fraudulent even just our interaction is, because they have to keep it a secret from the people that they're around. They can't tell anyone, you know, it's, it's, it makes it more taboo that they're interacting with somebody who has different political beliefs and is also mocking them for their political beliefs.
Nick VinZant 3:08
How deep into the political kind of beliefs do you get?
Krystal 3:12
I have a couple clips that are pretty gnarly. I have some that are pretty direct. I had a clip titled, your body, my choice. And that was, like, pretty direct into, you know, I think it was a couple days before that Nick Fuentes had said that phrase, and it had blown up. And so that was pretty direct where, like, this is directly what somebody said. I'm using it against you, and I'm flipping it and, you know, stuff like that. I had a clip. It was a custom that somebody requested where I told them to change their vote, which is not illegal. Let me start there. But yeah, for the most part, it's a little general, because I don't super want to draw too much attention. I'm also on a number of platforms. I'm not allowed to talk about politics.
Nick VinZant 4:18
Yeah, there's certain things that if you put it up on the internet, so to say, you can't say this, or they're going to take it down, that kind of stuff, so you can't specifically necessarily mention this thing. Is it? Is it odd to you in any way, or is there anything to read into that most of your clients are Republicans?
Krystal 4:39
No, it is not odd. It is not odd to me at all. There's a lot to read into it, I guess. How much of that would you like me to get into?
Nick VinZant 4:49
However much you want to talk about. A lot of the people
Krystal 4:53
I attract political or not are i. Yeah, I want to say either very busy or very successful or both, either way, they have a lot on their plate, and what they're looking for is someone to take that away when it comes to people who are very into politics being their identity. I can't imagine how stressful that is, just to have that on my mind all the time. I you know, I watch the news, sometimes I try and stay current, and it's overwhelming for me. So I can't imagine if somebody was so obsessed with politics, what that might look like. And I do wonder if some of my clients are people like that, who are then looking for something to kind of pull them out of that. Whatever it is that they're, you know, they're, they're obsession hole or their echo chamber?
Nick VinZant 6:03
Yeah, they seem to be more closely tied to politics than someone else, necessarily. Yeah. What are they, I guess. Is it sexual or is it mental? Then Are they looking for a sexual release or a mental release? Like I would assume that most of your clients are guys, yeah, are they, like, doing their thing? Yeah to this essentially,
Krystal 6:26
yes, yeah, they are. I think it's a bit of both. But I make porn, I that that's what they're looking for when they're on the sites,
Nick VinZant 6:37
using myself as an example, right? Like when I watch pornography, there's certain things that I'm like, looking for, right? Like, I want to see this. I want to see that. What are some of those things in terms of political humiliation? Are there, like, certain things that, oh, they want this. They want that
Krystal 6:53
political humiliation has the potential to go hand in hand with a lot of other kinks. I have some people who are really into beat and political humiliation. If they like political humiliation, they're probably into financial domination, specifically, again, I'm only speaking for Republican clientele, but that's that's usually. They're typically into that, definitely religious I've done, like cop humiliation, I don't know, just stuff respected by Republicans that isn't so respected by Democrats. Really buzz wordy, honestly,
Nick VinZant 7:35
yeah, I could see that, right. Like somebody who's into political humiliation might also go along with the things that are traditionally associated with Republican values, authority, law enforcement, religion, business. Are those the kind of things that would that seem to go hand in hand?
Krystal 7:55
Yeah, yeah. And I guess obviously, like female domination, putting an emphasis on the fact that I am a woman, and I am humiliating them and degrading them, even though I'm pretty short.
Nick VinZant 8:11
Does someone's appearance in terms of like, Oh, I bet that person is a liberal, Oh, I bet that person is Republican, if you look like this opposite stereotype, does that help your clientele?
Krystal 8:22
I definitely think so. I definitely think so. I I give off liberal so I think when people see me, they know that it's going to be what they're looking for.
Nick VinZant 8:37
Are there so in this case, though, you're the person who is humiliating them. Yes, did they ever want to then be like, I'm gonna humiliate the liberal woman? Did they ever want to, like, kind of flip it
Krystal 8:51
around? Absolutely not,
Nick VinZant 8:54
not at all. Or is that, would that be like that? That's No, though that's a different thing
Krystal 8:59
that so that would be a different thing. And also, by the time they're able to actually speak to me, maybe on a more candid level, they've already paid me a good amount of money for this specific thing.
Nick VinZant 9:17
When you say, like, a good amount of money. Can you give us a like, how much, how much money are we talking about?
Krystal 9:22
The first person who really started buying all of my political clips and getting very into them, he spent about 10 grams in two days,
Nick VinZant 9:34
10,000 in two days. Yeah, is that? Would you say that's an extreme outlier, like or no, no. Some other people will get close
Krystal 9:42
to that too. Some other people will get close to that.
Nick VinZant 9:46
So now, do you get anything out of this, besides financial gain, necessarily, but is this kind of your jam at the same time?
Krystal 9:55
Political humiliation? I definitely enjoy. It's very satisfying. Buying, but it's more mentally than physically satisfying. If that makes sense, I will say, in my interactions with subs, I do find pleasure in getting money. So once people are reaching, you know, good levels, then obviously I'm I'm happy, I'm good, but it's more, I would say, it's more a psychological pleasure for me to just poke at people for for their beliefs, for their values, whatever.
Nick VinZant 10:33
Do you generally have kind of the opposite beliefs that they would like? Do you find any satisfaction in like they voted for this person and I voted for the other person, and now I can kind of get this frustration however you want to call it out,
Krystal 10:48
yeah, yeah, kind of sort of, I will say, I, you know, I am a Democrat. Unfortunately, I wish I wasn't. Just because I hated both parties. I didn't want to vote for for either of them in any of the last elections. Um, so I don't really get that like, you know, that fierce for my party. I don't really care that much to protect Democrats. Um, but I do get a sense of satisfaction out of, you know, being mean to somebody who voted for things that are fucking with my livelihood. You know, there's, there's so much bad happening right now, and there's bad stuff happening to people in my family because of our current president, and my friends and I do get some satisfaction out of taking out some of my anger on people at the same time. It's It's not that. It's not gratifying. There's an end to the gratification.
Unknown Speaker 12:01
How'd you get into
Krystal 12:01
it? So sex work. I started working when I was 18, and I was not making very much money, and so I started doing platonic sugaring, where I essentially just went to dinner with people, and then I got into selling used like worn items. So I was selling socks and underwear, bras, whatever anybody wanted. And through that, I had a client who I could pretty much charge whatever I wanted for whatever he wanted. And he started talking to me about financial domination, and I had taken a look into it when I first got into sugaring, because I was I was curious, and it seemed really easy, which, no matter what you see on Tiktok, it's not fucking easy. It is not you do not make money easily. So I met up with a girl who I'm still friends with now. She's also a DOM, and she recommended that I start getting into clips. And the first goal for a clip store is to build it up, to bulk it up, just to have content on there. So for probably a month or two, I filmed what I like to call filler clips. And those are just kind of general, you know, ass worship or ass humiliation, or foot worship, or, you know, just really basic stuff that I can kind of do without thinking about it too much. But after a couple months, I started to get bored, so I made what I like to call my anti burnout list, and that list is political, humiliation, cop, humiliation, religious, any kind of religious King, any, really, anything that I thought would be funny because it, it's hilarious. You can't lie, it's, it's very funny that I do this and, um, and I accidentally released one of my clips, like, two weeks early. Um, I think it was my, yeah, it was my first clip called, what was it called? Something about, like, liberal ass or something. I don't know that might have been the title, honestly, but I released it and I'm thinking myself, like, fuck, fuck, fuck, I have to delete it and then reschedule it and X, Y and Z. And I didn't figure out that it was released early till hours later, and it had already sold a number of times, and I was like, Okay, that's interesting. I was just kind of doing that for fun, but, you know, I'll take the money that's that's no problem. So I definitely leaned harder into it, and I was releasing at least one, one of the. Those anti burnout list clips a week, and I was just seeing a lot of success with the political ones. That's not to say that I I've, you know, moved myself further into it, because I really like to keep myself spread as my net, my net as far out as possible. But, yeah, I kind of went face first into like, let's figure out how to use this to our advantage. And I mean, use it if I can to minister to the Republicans or whatever. But for the most part, I just like money. It's honest. You can't, yeah, I can't lie, I guess.
Nick VinZant 15:42
How popular would you say that it is?
Krystal 15:45
I think it's pretty niche. I do think it's pretty niche. I i have not had over 25 different clients, and it's been two years since I started that being said, they've all been very spendy. This is their thing, right? Like I figured out their demographic.
Nick VinZant 16:12
Are you ready for some harder slash listener submitted questions? Sure. What would you say is your most interesting request? One that stood out to
Krystal 16:20
you, probably the sub who asked for me to make an entire clip to change his vote that was pretty interesting.
Nick VinZant 16:29
What kind of can I ask you? Like, what kind of things do they want you to say? Like, what would you say? Kind of challenging.
Krystal 16:39
The fact that challenging how strongly they cling to their beliefs, and challenging if they're doing it because they actually believe this, or if it's if they're just following everybody else. I tried not to make it too, too close to my heart, because I didn't want it to be an emotional clip for me. It was very near the election, and you know, everybody was very stressed around that time, myself included. So I did keep it more kind of generic, where you know you're being a fraud. You're not being true to yourself, if you want to be, you know, if you want to think about your actual values and what you actually value about your party, like see how closely that's actually aligned to the person who you're voting for. And you know, you don't even think about, I guess my humiliation for them would be, you know, you don't even know what you're voting for. You don't you say how much you care about the country, but you're actually just doing something bad for it and ruining it. And you're well aware of that, but you're just like, following what everybody else does. That was more so than just a bit.
Nick VinZant 18:00
Do you get the sense? Like, does this ever change? Somebody like, you know what? I was a die hard this, and now I got this out of my system or whatever, and now I'm going to be this.
Krystal 18:12
So it's interesting. You say that about a year ago, I had a sub who bought a bunch of my political humiliation clips. I kind of knew where, where we were going with this I shot them a message. We, we, you know, struck up a conversation. Kind of spiraled into spending more money, X, Y and Z. And this person was, or is, I haven't heard from them since, but they had some questions about being sissified, so being kind of transformed and made up to be a woman. And as our session went on, and I kind of progressed with, you know, I'm going to make you wear this and I'm going to put this makeup on you, and you know, you can't tell your wife, and it's really just between us two, kind of making it taboo and dangerous, and whatever they delved in, well, they asked me, actually, if I would tell them to take estrogen. And I stopped for a second. I actually stopped the session, and I said, Hey, right before we keep going, I just want to talk to you. I want to know if you want me to say this seriously, or if you want it to be, you know, kinky and whatever kind of surface level,
Nick VinZant 19:43
yeah, like, what are you really
Krystal 19:44
asking me? Yeah, exactly. What are you really asking me? And I've, I've worked with a lot of people in the past who wanted to be dressed up, wanted makeup put on. I've worked with a number of Republicans in the past who did, but none of them ever went that far. And so we got to actually. Be talking, and I was still charging a lot of money per message, but I was giving good advice, um, pretty much we, we kind of stopped the session and had a totally candid conversation where she came out as trans to me and told me about, you know, she's married and she has a family, not no kids, but you know she she her parents are Republican, and all of her siblings and all of her friends, and essentially, if she is to accept this part of herself, that that all goes away. So I just got to talk to her about it, and I was like, you know, I think you should see a therapist. I'm happy to look up therapists in your town if you want me to, you know, just shoot links your way and find people who are gender affirming and just see how you feel talking to them. Because I don't want you to make any big moves. I want you to take it really slow, because as soon as you start making those big moves, everything starts moving really fast. And so I, you know, we, we kind of chatted for about a week or so. She found a therapist, she went to see them, and she said, I'm gonna get offline. I'm gonna get rid of my account. I'm only gonna come back on to give you an update. So she messaged me about a month later. She had been seeing the therapist for a month, and she was going to come out to her wife, and she wanted me to give her a pep talk for that, which I thought was really nice. I have trans family members, and it's a great joy to see people happy, and you know who they're supposed to be in whatever form that looks like. So I gave her a little pep talk, and a couple weeks later, she messaged me, and she said, you know, it went well, but they're not going to stay together. And then that was kind of the last that I heard from
Nick VinZant 22:06
her. That's really like, that's really cool. I know that's not the right word, necessarily. Thank you, but you know what I mean by like, yeah, that's the that's the response a normal, like, a good person, should have, like, hey, wait a minute.
Krystal 22:19
I am very, very evil until I until I stop, and then I'm just, I'm just a guy.
Nick VinZant 22:29
Most frequent request like, Oh, got this one again,
Krystal 22:36
really, just like, take my money and make fun of me for being a Republican.
Nick VinZant 22:40
Take my money and make fun of me for being, yeah,
Krystal 22:44
my favorite phrase is, you're so fiscally irresponsible. I love saying that because it's just so it's so funny. And also, that's all they care about, is the economy. So like, why are you giving money to me, you want to be rich, but you're actively hurting yourself.
Nick VinZant 23:04
Okay, it's such like a dad insult, yeah? Thing that your dad just like, crushed, like, oh man. I just got to talking
Krystal 23:15
to Yeah? I hope they feel like that. I hope so, because, I mean it,
Nick VinZant 23:23
do you hope that this ends in any way, in the sense that, like, I hope political of humiliation doesn't continue because then people are doing what they truly feel is right, or the current climate is alleviated, or anything like that. Like, do you look towards an end, or do you feel like, now this is, this is always going to be here.
Krystal 23:47
Now, that's a good question. So my DOM brain is saying, I hope it never ends, because I love money. So that's, that's my that's part A but me, person, real person, living in America. I mean, if everybody went outside and touched some grass, I think we would all be in a really different place. And I think that if everyone was just normal and treated each other the way that they would want to be treated, then we would be in a very, very different place. I had a conversation with a friend last night because, you know, I'm a liberal. We love to commiserate about how the world is falling apart and everything is dying and, you know, whatever. And he did say, I don't think we're going to come back from this. And I I hate to believe that, but I do kind of believe it. I hope political. Humiliation is totally still around, but I hope that it's not specifically because they're voting for a dumb ass. You know, I can make fun of being pro life all day, and I'm fine with that being a Republican standard. I'm okay with that. I can make fun of that, but I'd rather not have it be like, so glaringly obvious, like, why are you still voting for this person when he's obviously a jack up,
Nick VinZant 25:29
is there ever any specific political figures that get referred to more like, oh, say, You're Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris? Like, are there certain political figures that they
Krystal 25:42
sell? I don't role play political figures. I'm sure there are people out there who do in the sphere, but I personally don't. My gnarliest clip, I wasn't going to bring it up, but I will for business, I have a clip that is me sitting on this very couch, and I'm over on the right side, and there is a little spot right here Where there are pictures of our president rolling, and it is what's called a joy video, it's a jerk off instruction video, it is very disrespectful. And people, people will reference that clip. That's that's the one where, if somebody, if I'm pushing somebody really hard. I'll make them watch that, because that is ultimate humiliation. Like that is really disgusting work. So, yeah, his name comes up more than kamalas. I had maybe one or two people around the election asking me to say, you know, tell them to say that Kamala is amazing, or, you know, something like that. But yeah, Trump's name comes up for sure.
Nick VinZant 27:10
That's pretty much all the questions that I have. Is there anything that you think that we missed? Or how can people find your store, that kind of stuff?
Krystal 27:18
How can people find me while I am on Twitter or x, as nobody calls it, my app is at submit to Crystal. That's S, U, B, M, I t, the number 2k, R, y, s, t, a, l. If you use the link in my bio, you'll be able to find all my stores I'm on. I want clips, many vids, clips for sale and loyal fans as well as only fans.
Nick VinZant 27:45
I want to thank crystal so much for joining us. If you want to connect with her, we have linked to her on our social media sites. We're profoundly pointless on Tiktok, Instagram and YouTube, and we've also included her information in the episode description. Okay, now let's bring in John Shull and get to the pointless part of the show. How hard are you willing to try at something like, if something's gonna be 50% more difficult than you thought, are you gonna do it? Are you gonna give up?
John Shull 28:18
You know, the older I get in life, older I get, the more that it's not about trying hard, but it's what am I going to try hard at like, am I going to try hard at work every day? I don't know, but I'm going to try to be a good dad every day. Like, I'm going to try to give 185% to that.
Nick VinZant 28:39
It's not possible to give more than 100% Whoa. God, that whole, that one thing threw you completely off. Just not possible to give more than 100% just shut the whole thing down.
John Shull 28:54
Huh? No, I just, I mean, I kind of stand by my I mean, you know, I think people give to what they want to give. And I know that sounds really simple, but like, how think about your day? Maybe not your day, because I feel like you have the perfect life. But think about a normal person's day, how much of their day is spent doing something where they don't really want to do it, but they have to, because it's a society. It's a societal norm, or, you know, they need money because they have a family, so they have to work, etc, that's what I meant.
Nick VinZant 29:26
Oh, I think that you it's not just a normal person's day. I think everybody's day is probably 90 to 95% stuff you don't really want to be doing. My other question, what do you think is the earliest you can call somebody,
John Shull 29:41
I mean, non emergence or like,
Nick VinZant 29:45
Well, yeah, non emergency, right? Like, it's not going to be like, Oh my God, my wife is dying, but it's 730 so I'm going to wait till eight o'clock to call her dad, I guess.
John Shull 29:58
Let's see. Um. Nine, nine o'clock on a weekday, 10 o'clock on a weekend.
Nick VinZant 30:06
Oh, wow. What's it like to sleep in every day?
John Shull 30:09
No. I mean, if it's not work related, you
Nick VinZant 30:12
can call, I think you can call somebody at eight o'clock just to call
Unknown Speaker 30:16
someone. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 30:20
10 years, maybe more than that call just to talk to somebody that's not a family member, just to call and chat it up.
John Shull 30:28
Is this? Is this the part of the program where you owe me an apology? No, it's
Nick VinZant 30:35
not. I know what you're trying to get into. It's not the same thing.
John Shull 30:39
I think, I think you owe me an apology
Nick VinZant 30:42
for because I don't have a landline,
John Shull 30:46
so your text message to me that you have a landline is not correct.
Nick VinZant 30:50
Yes, it's not correct. I don't have a landline. I have something that's like voice over protocol goes to the internet. I'm not going to waste my money on a landline and and pay tons of money like you are. I pay so 699 a month. And it's actually pretty great, because the kids can call home, and you can call upstairs and be like, Hey, do this for me.
John Shull 31:13
But you have a landline then physical.
Nick VinZant 31:16
No, I don't. So how do you not have a landline? It's voice over protocol. It's a different thing. Wi Fi is not the same thing as a local area network connection. I don't know what that really is. It's hardwired or whatever. Okay, same thing.
John Shull 31:29
So for us that don't have any idea what you're saying, how does a voice over protocol work?
Nick VinZant 31:36
I have no idea. Jesus Bert, I'm not a telecommunications engineer, so it's a landline. No, it's not a landline. It's voice over protocol. It hooks up to the internet, and it uses like the internet to do it. It doesn't use a landline. A landline is a landline. You have a landline which is a waste of time and money and effort and should be gotten rid of. I have something that is completely different than provides me with a phone in the house that is just masterfully using technology.
John Shull 32:08
Got it sure whatever, whatever you want to say, welcome, welcome to the landline
Nick VinZant 32:15
club. I'm not in the landline club. It's not the same thing, right? Like if you drive a Dodge Ram, you're not in the jeep club,
Unknown Speaker 32:26
sure, sure, yep,
Nick VinZant 32:27
they both got four wheels and her cars, but they're not the same thing.
John Shull 32:31
I'm trying to find this message because I think that really
Nick VinZant 32:34
see, because you want me in your group. You want me.
John Shull 32:37
God, you said, Guess what? And then I said, you've got a little wiener question mark. And then you said, you said, we got a landline.
Nick VinZant 32:48
I was incorrect. It's not a landline. It's completely different.
John Shull 32:52
And then I even said, You mother, effort, I need a public apology, meaning, on this podcast in which you said, I've been telling you to get a landline for years.
Nick VinZant 33:05
Oh, that was probably a typo. What I've meant to say was, God, never get a landline.
John Shull 33:12
I tell you what you would be. Are you sure Washington doesn't need you right now,
Nick VinZant 33:17
way too slippery to fall into this trap, right? You would be getting off on the on the what is it the schematics or semantics or something like that? I don't have a landline. Only a fool would have a landline when voice over protocol exists, which is what,
John Shull 33:31
I sorry. I You're right. Even though you admitted it twice there, I must have misread your it's all. It's my fault.
Nick VinZant 33:38
It's incorrect. Have you ever been wrong in your life,
Unknown Speaker 33:42
maybe, right?
Nick VinZant 33:46
Anyways, yeah, I don't have a landline, so you continue to be the only sap in Michigan who has a landline.
John Shull 33:53
By the way, several several people who like me and listen to this podcast thought that my minivan story was hilarious, and I just want you to know that they eat they emailed us a copy of our signed documents at the dealership, and my smiley face is fantastic as always.
Nick VinZant 34:12
So how is life with the minivan? I
Unknown Speaker 34:14
don't know. I don't get to drive
Nick VinZant 34:16
it. Oh, you don't even get to drive it. Wait a minute, will you sit in the passenger seat of the car while your wife drives?
John Shull 34:29
Oh, I have, I'm I'm predominantly the driver, though it's probably like 95 five.
Nick VinZant 34:36
Okay, wow. Oh, what? 99 one is the only acceptable answer. The only time I have not driven because I view it as like, no, the it's the guy's job to drive. That's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to drive the car. That's supposed to be raised to be a chivalrous man. I did the only time I'm. Not driving was I literally had like a broken leg toilet.
John Shull 35:05
She's never taken out the garbage. That's what I'm here for. Are we ready for some shout outs? Yeah, these people aren't wrong. They probably all have landlines too.
Nick VinZant 35:17
I bet nobody has a landline. Do you actually know anybody else with a landline?
John Shull 35:22
Yes, who your grandfather? My parents?
Nick VinZant 35:26
Anyone under the age of 97
John Shull 35:30
No, but I guarantee you, Rusty Morrison probably has a landline.
Nick VinZant 35:35
Somebody named rusty. You don't see a lot of Rusty's. That's a name that should be used more often.
John Shull 35:40
Or Spencer Cooley, Marcy Anderson.
Nick VinZant 35:44
Marcy is a good name. I like a Marcy.
John Shull 35:47
Frankie Miller, seems like a guy that's probably, probably has a landline.
Nick VinZant 35:51
There's a definite, there is a definite hierarchy of the Frank related names. Frank gonna be funner than Fred, but Fred's going to be a little quirky. Frankie is probably the funnest of the Frank related names.
John Shull 36:07
I think Franklin is best.
Nick VinZant 36:11
I don't I have a whole thing about people who have they go by like, the full version of their name, generally, always kind of like, oh, you're a little bit of a stick in the mud, isn't that, right?
Unknown Speaker 36:27
Jonathan, you got it? Nicholas,
Nick VinZant 36:29
like, if you, did you ever go through, I want to be called Jonathan. Did you ever go that Jonathan phase?
John Shull 36:36
Actually, somebody asked me this the other day. They go, Why doesn't anyone ever call you John, and I'm like, no one ever has called me John. It's usually Shoal.
Nick VinZant 36:46
Oh, yeah, I don't know mine's about 5050 you. You feel like you've always been a last name person?
Unknown Speaker 36:57
Yeah, absolutely.
Nick VinZant 36:59
I'm like, 5050 some people will call me VinZant, and some people will call me Nick. Mine's been pretty 5050 throughout my life. I've never been predominantly first or last name,
John Shull 37:12
kind of like a lot of things in your life, huh? Can't figure out what's going on, all right. Carrie Ellison, Rose love, Troy, McKinney, Kristen, Montoya and Fausto.
Nick VinZant 37:26
Carroll, okay, okay, Fausto. I like Fausto,
Speaker 1 37:31
hell yeah. Do you know what time it is?
Nick VinZant 37:36
No, it's not that time. I know that you're always jumping the gun. I always jump the gun on candle of the month.
John Shull 37:46
I have kind of a, it's not really a new segment, but, oh, it's at least an organized ish segment.
Nick VinZant 37:53
All right. Nice job on episode 300 something. Finally, together, right? My best all the time,
John Shull 38:02
I wouldn't say that. So I basically just came up with a few questions, and I just want you to pick the answer that you think is best. So we'll start with an easy one.
Nick VinZant 38:15
Here are these quiz related like, Are you testing my knowledge or testing my personality? Personality.
John Shull 38:23
Okay, okay. And hey, if anyone out, if anyone out there wants to chime in and let us know your answers, I'm curious because I spent at least 20 seconds per question.
Nick VinZant 38:31
Oh, it's a lot of effort. I like it,
John Shull 38:35
all right. We'll start off with an easy one. What's more impressive to you being able to bench 400 pounds or being able to squat 400 pounds,
Nick VinZant 38:47
oh, I think leg strength. I'm a firm believer in that leg strength is one of the determining factors of people's lives. Always go with legs. I think that benching 400 is harder than squatting 400 but look, legs are legs is effort, man, you got to put in effort at the gym. So anything with legs is going to win.
John Shull 39:06
All right, which one are you more likely to have in your life? Fruit cocktail, cake or fruit leather?
Nick VinZant 39:15
I don't know what fruit leather is.
John Shull 39:20
It's basically, think of a longer rectangle, and it's like, like pomegranate Berry, but it looks like a belt, like a leather belt. You mean, like a roll up, nope, like a fancy fruit roll up. How have you never had fruit
Nick VinZant 39:37
leather? I'm a normal person who doesn't have a landline.
Speaker 1 39:41
Let me know you do. You've you admitted it. I don't.
Nick VinZant 39:45
It's not the same thing. You need to just accept the fact that I don't have a landline and move past this.
John Shull 39:52
I just don't understand why you keep denying it like I don't. Let's get true weather. It's not true. What next thing you're gonna be telling me that you bought a van, but it's not a minivan. Well, I can only, can only find like,
Nick VinZant 40:11
fancy, I would say like, I would guess. I don't know really what a fruit cocktail cake is. I don't know what either those things are, but I would lean towards the cake. Whenever I've looked at those kind of like a fruit roll up, I'm like, No, I'd rather have cake.
John Shull 40:24
Let's see. I'm trying. I'm trying to bring up a picture of fruit leather
Nick VinZant 40:28
for you, fruit jerky.
Unknown Speaker 40:31
Yeah, essentially, let's see.
Nick VinZant 40:34
Oh, yeah. I mean, I would rather have cake.
John Shull 40:40
Well, I'll have my aunt Marge bring you her fruit cocktail cake that she's been bringing to Thanksgiving since the 70s.
Nick VinZant 40:46
I've never even heard of it. Maybe it's the same cake.
John Shull 40:50
Let's see. This has been back in the limelight because of Jimmy Kimmel. But when's the last time you watched late night television, like one of the top shows,
Nick VinZant 41:05
actually, like, watched it, not just seen a clip on social media. I don't know if I've honestly ever watched it. I don't, I can't honestly tell you if I ever have, like, sat down and watched a show. I don't ever I mean, maybe when I was a little kid, like watching TV when I was supposed to be in bed, like growing up in my house, there was a way you could, kind of like, sneak out of your room and see the TV from where you, like, lay down in the hallway and watch the TV What's your parents were watching. But I don't think that I've ever watched late night television, not Saturday Night Live, not any of it.
John Shull 41:46
Okay, all right, what say your passed out at a bar? What songs gonna make you get up and get you back back into the groove of things quicker. God bless the USA. Or, Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue, by Toby Keith,
Nick VinZant 42:07
I guess God bless the USA. I
Speaker 1 42:11
don't know why. That just seems like a funny question to me. I don't
Nick VinZant 42:15
know. Oh, are these, like, all part of some quiz? Like, is this leading to somewhere? Are these just random questions.
John Shull 42:20
They're random questions that I jotted down the last last two days or so, like, Oh, he's just been thinking about I've been thinking about you on a constant basis.
Nick VinZant 42:30
That's good. I mean, honestly, if I'm passed out, like I'm not getting up, when I go down, I go down like there's no stand in eight count, it's just over.
John Shull 42:37
Do you know that? When did we meet?
Nick VinZant 42:41
2011 probably, yeah, right around there,
John Shull 42:46
our friendship is blossoming. We are like a flower. We are just blooming
Nick VinZant 42:50
years that's a long time,
John Shull 42:55
and it all started with a baked potato. Imagine that, and which I paid for, by the way.
Nick VinZant 43:04
Well, you should, you broke it, yeah, stuff you're supposed to do.
John Shull 43:09
Listen, I'm just happy for anyone out there trying to pursue their dreams. You You Have at it because life sucks. Life's gonna beat you down.
Nick VinZant 43:18
Oh, yeah, you got to do, yeah. I'm a firm believer of the idea that you don't have to be good at something to enjoy doing it.
John Shull 43:25
You don't even have to be good at anything to even get anything.
Nick VinZant 43:29
Yeah, not really. Yeah. That's true too. You know what you gotta do is good at something to be successful at it. I mean, that's another much every manager everybody's ever
John Shull 43:37
had. This is another topic for another day, but nepotism is is is dumb to me. You know what? I mean, it just why couldn't I have been born into a rich family and never do anything with my life?
Nick VinZant 43:52
This is back to my theory that pretty much your entire life is based on luck.
Unknown Speaker 43:57
Ain't that the truth? It really is. Your
Nick VinZant 43:59
entire life, if you think about it one way or another, it kind of comes down to luck, even the things that you would necessarily say, like, I earned that? Well, you probably got some of those qualities from the situation that you grew up in or found yourself in, and that has to deal with luck. It's a big struggle that I deal with in my life in the sense of like, well, what did I really accomplish in life? Are you
John Shull 44:19
having your midlife crisis yet?
Nick VinZant 44:22
No, but that's what I would say, is something I think about a lot. What have any of us really done in life? Or was all of this kind of just like, Yeah, you were always going to be in this position, yeah?
John Shull 44:35
I think, yeah. I think everything's, it doesn't matter. Would you rather go to space or go to the bottom of the ocean space, waste my time with that shit. Why? What's wrong with the bottom of the ocean? I don't want to go to the bottom of the ocean
Nick VinZant 44:47
so scary as hell. 12,000 feet, or wherever far down it is. Think it's actually like farther than that, to be honest. Yeah, it's like what? Like things like 30,000 feet. 30,000 Feet down in pure darkness, hard.
John Shull 45:02
I don't even think we've touched on, you know, anything with the ocean. It's so friggin huge.
Nick VinZant 45:09
Well, we've mapped the whole thing. We had a guy on here who was a deep sea Ocean Explorer. Can't remember his name right off the top of my head, but that was one of his pet peeves, to say that we know less about the bottom of the ocean it's like, no, we'd actually know a lot about it. We kind of got it all. We don't have every single area map, but we we know what it looks like,
John Shull 45:29
sure, because you can totally see down there. Let's see
Nick VinZant 45:32
last one understands how to use satellites.
John Shull 45:36
I'm not trying to, you know, good for him. He probably has a landline too.
Unknown Speaker 45:41
Let's see. What can you do is pee for 12 hours, though,
Unknown Speaker 45:46
can you Yeah,
Nick VinZant 45:47
oh, I was like, I can't. Soon as I have to pee, pretty much my whole body shuts down. I can't do anything besides want to go pee.
John Shull 46:00
I think I could probably hold it for a whole day.
John Shull 46:09
We should try it someday, and if I do wanted to start now chug that water, you have to admit that you have a landline.
Nick VinZant 46:17
I don't. I would be lying if I did. I don't have a landline. You just say, this is the thing, John. You've got to be able to when confronted with different information than you already thought. You've got to be able to change your perceptions of the world and admit when you might be wrong. Like it's not a landline. You just got to let it go. It's not okay. You ready for your candle of the month? Are you going to power? Gonna pout?
John Shull 46:44
I'm not pouting. Are you wrong? I know it's a landline.
Nick VinZant 46:47
I'm not wrong. It's not a landline. It's Voice over Internet Protocol. Fine. It's not the same thing as a landline. A landline plugs into like, whatever the telephone company does this, plugs into the router. It's not the same thing. Okay. Are you ready? I'm ready. Yes, all right, do it. Oh, yeah, wait, wait, wait on me, Jesus. Oh, it's going it's time the outlaw candle connoisseur Rides Again, and by giving you the candle of the month, he admits that I don't have a landline. This is like the hardest choice you've ever had to do in your life.
John Shull 47:32
I can't, I can't let the two people down that rely on this information,
Nick VinZant 47:36
right? So thank you for admitting it. I will stay
John Shull 47:40
professional and it's fine. I just, I just want, at first, I want, I want the record to show I know what the difference between a landline and a VOP is. I do know
Nick VinZant 47:51
that, then you should know that they're not the same thing.
John Shull 47:54
They're not the same thing. But why were you, But why were you so adamant?
Nick VinZant 48:01
I was wrong. Okay, I turned out to be wrong. It's okay to be wrong. You can just admit it. Nick I know I want to make fun of you about the fact that you have a landline, but it turns out that you do not have a landline like I can admit that I was wrong. Why can't you?
John Shull 48:18
I would never, ever try to nail you on something like that? If you're wrong, it's fine. Oh, you have a landline. No, I don't. All right. Anyway. So cattle the month this month from Goose Creek. Think I've featured them a couple times in the last half, but I was gifted this and I had all intents of bringing it down into the basement with me, except yesterday, as I was carrying it, I dropped it and the glass broke and I lost the candle. So in saying that, head over to goose creek.com get the trick or treat. Three wick candle on sale, three wicker for for $11 and it is everything that you want. In a Halloween trick or treating night, you're gonna get hints of caramel apple, a little bit of sweetness. I like to think that's Marshmallow, but then it's gonna have pumpkin spice, it's gonna have warmth. It's gonna be like you're walking down your your your street when you were five years old, trick or treating, except this candle will burn for 20 to 40 hours and will provide all kinds of just great memories.
Nick VinZant 49:45
How did you you just broke it?
John Shull 49:49
No, I stepped we, it's a long story, but we moved my dog's food and water dish to a different spot.
Nick VinZant 49:59
Big Dick. Davis
John Shull 50:00
show also not, not used to it kind of kicked it over, lost my balance, lost the candle, and here we are. But check it out. Goose Creek Trick or treat, three wood candle on sale for most of the month of October. Yeah. Did you fall down? No, I did not, but I kicked the shit out of my dog's water, which, of course, was just refilled.
Nick VinZant 50:28
Oh, god, that's the older you get, the more you just hate to have a mess. There's just one more damn thing you got to take care of.
John Shull 50:37
Well, then, of course, I blame the dog, and it's like my dog had nothing to do with it, you know, like, I don't deflect. How's your landline see? Yeah, that's a deflection. Let's, let's go into our top five.
Nick VinZant 50:52
Can we? Can we just see if there's any other, any new controversies in the candle connoisseur world, any new hot topics in the candle?
John Shull 51:02
No, I think I touched on this one last. It's pretty much the same thing. A lot of people, you know, tariffs are still a thing. And also, there's a couple of European companies that that apparently are, are having some some issues with America. So some wax, some some wax distributors. There's a lot of like pro wax distributors on the candle forums that are wanting to know what the future of candles are.
Nick VinZant 51:35
Probably the same thing. I don't think that that's really a technology that kind of involved evolves, right? Like we got that, we got that figured
Speaker 1 51:43
out, candles are going nowhere, so it doesn't matter. No, there's
Nick VinZant 51:47
not guys, what's been the latest, big, new candle technology that you were like, Oh my God, this revolutionized candle
John Shull 51:55
probably about a decade ago. Yeah, why not? I mean, it's, it's not, it's not how they make them, but it's self like, self warmers, like Bluetooth, self warmers, where you could literally be like, you know, hey, Google, turn on the candle, and then the candle, you know, it'll get warm and blah, blah, blah, because the warmer. So anyways, yeah.
Nick VinZant 52:22
I mean, what's that save? 1520 seconds?
John Shull 52:29
Sometimes 15 or 20 seconds can, can matter all you need, right? It's all you need. Jelly Bean. Alright. Are you ready for our top five? I've been trying to get there for 10 minutes. So our
Nick VinZant 52:42
top five is top five flavor combinations, Logan ice cream, my son's like ice cream. It's not a flavor ice cream.
John Shull 52:52
So my number five is something that I just discovered, and it's raspberries and dark chocolate.
Nick VinZant 53:00
I'm sorry. I was getting an update on homework. What did you say?
John Shull 53:07
My number five is something that I just discovered, and it's raspberries and dark chocolate.
Nick VinZant 53:13
Ooh, very good. I don't know how you just discovered that. God, I wanted to make a joke.
Speaker 1 53:22
I what I mean? What's stopping you now?
Nick VinZant 53:29
I just have a hard time cut. I have a hard time believing that a man such as yourself has just discovered anything related to chocolate.
John Shull 53:40
Oh, yeah, I don't you discovered it a long time ago. No way. I don't need a lot of chocolate. Man, this is all meat. This is all, is it really? Oh, I'm such a sweets person. I don't need, I don't need a lot of sweets. This is all. This is all meat. American merry meat,
Nick VinZant 53:57
mostly Sausage, sausage, lot of beef sticks, lot of beef sticks. My number five is honey and cheese. Honey and cheese is good, and I think it goes under the radar a little bit where you're like, Oh, I wouldn't have thought that would necessarily taste really good, but honey amazing.
John Shull 54:18
Think it all depends on the kind of cheese. But yes, I don't disagree with you. Camembert.
Nick VinZant 54:28
Come on, man, name me the fanciest cheese you can think of right now. Wow me with your cheese knowledge.
John Shull 54:36
I mean, the first thing that because of my mind, is guerre, oh, that's not bad. That's a pretty common one, I guess. But it's, it's good Havarti. Have already does not taste Have you had Havarti?
Nick VinZant 54:51
I honestly don't even know what it is. Okay, of
John Shull 54:54
course, you don't. It's not, it's not very good, in my opinion. Yeah. Uh, let's, let's see. I don't know why I'm stuttering flavor combinations, my number four, and I'm stuttering because there's so many and you're going to kill me for this one, strawberry and banana.
Nick VinZant 55:14
Oh, I like strawberry and banana. I wouldn't put it on my list because I have a better palette, apparently. But I like strawberry and banana. Strawberry and cream. I would put above strawberry and banana to be honest with
John Shull 55:26
you, I think that's fruit are the best blendable foods, if that makes any sense, like they make the best as well combinations of things.
Nick VinZant 55:36
My number four is chips and salsa. You can never go wrong with chips and salsa flavor combination in my mind,
John Shull 55:45
I guess. I mean, chips are like, a bunch of different flavors, but okay, I'm
Nick VinZant 55:52
just thinking of regular like tortilla chips, like you get in a Mexican restaurant.
John Shull 55:57
Yeah, I guess. I mean, I
Nick VinZant 55:59
have never understood how restaurants afford free chips and salsa. I've never understood that
John Shull 56:08
it probably cost less than $10 a day to make the salsa, and you can probably get five Costco bags of of chips. You know what I mean.
Nick VinZant 56:19
Have you ever, like, started to eat at a restaurant and then just decided, like, No, I'm leaving. Like, this isn't very good. I'm not going to order anything.
John Shull 56:29
Not really. I've had that happen to me a couple of times by the opposite sex that we've talked about.
Nick VinZant 56:36
What's your number three?
John Shull 56:40
Salami and cheese. Oh
Nick VinZant 56:43
yeah, I was thinking about that right as you started talking. I didn't put it on my list, but I was like, oh, meat and cheese is really
John Shull 56:49
good. Oh, my God, give me all the meat and all the cheese.
Nick VinZant 56:53
Oh yeah. Oh, I agree. My number three is bread and butter. I could live off of bread and butter, and I could be perfectly happy eating nothing but bread and butter, like just for dinner. What are you gonna have? Just a loaf of bread and butter? I'd be perfectly happy
John Shull 57:11
bread and butter Atta boy. Well, good for you, man, maybe you need a little more bread.
John Shull 57:22
Anyways, my number two, you gotta go with with this one. It's a staple, but it's just just the good old salt and pepper.
Nick VinZant 57:29
Oh, that's what I have. Is my number two is salt and pepper. God, what's your number one? Then I bet, do you think we have the same number one?
John Shull 57:38
I'm not sure. I hope not, but I guess we'll find out. My number one is peanut butter and whipped cream.
Nick VinZant 57:52
Why wouldn't you do peanut butter and jelly? Why would you do peanut butter?
Unknown Speaker 57:58
I don't like jelly.
Nick VinZant 58:00
Why would you mix it with whipped cream? Because
John Shull 58:03
it tastes delicious. Oh, it's so good. Put in the fridge, let the peanut butter get, like, a little cold.
Unknown Speaker 58:11
I tried to
Nick VinZant 58:14
microwave Nutella the other day because I thought that would be a good idea. And I was like, this is pretty
Speaker 1 58:19
thick, 40 years old. Why are you microwaving Nutella?
Nick VinZant 58:23
Well, it gets better. It gets better. I microwaved it. But so like, if you were going to microwave Nutella, how long would you be like, You know what? I should microwave this Nutella for this long?
John Shull 58:36
Well, first, I don't think you're supposed to do it in the container. Did you do it in the container?
Nick VinZant 58:41
No, no, no, no, no. I scooped it out with a spoon, dish.
John Shull 58:45
I mean, probably 20 seconds.
Nick VinZant 58:52
What do you do it for? I put it in for three minutes. Oh my, oh yeah, oh yeah. It was a mistake. I've never seen a fire in the microwave. I mean, it wasn't on fire, but it was smoking, and it turned like, it turned hard, like I thought it would melt it, but it didn't. It went back to like, dust.
Unknown Speaker 59:13
It was hard, dude. I
Nick VinZant 59:14
mean, it set off the smoke alarms. The dog was freaking out. I don't know. Why do you still have anything like that where you just have an idea, and for some reason, and all your life experience, you just had no idea that that was a bad idea. I had no idea Michael waving to tell it for two minutes or three minutes would be a bad idea. Like, that'll
John Shull 59:35
probably, I'm sure I do. I mean, I don't know, like, I can't think of one on top my head, but I'm sure, sure I have,
Nick VinZant 59:42
okay, like, my number one, like I mentioned, is peanut butter and jelly.
John Shull 59:47
Yeah, I just don't like jelly. Like, I get it, it should be on the list. But personally, for me, I just don't like jelly. How about jam?
Nick VinZant 59:56
No, not, really, not a difference. I don't know if there's a difference between jelly and jam. Them or a preserve,
John Shull 1:00:02
yeah, one, one of them has seeds, I think, and one doesn't, or something.
Nick VinZant 1:00:06
Would you agree, though, that there's like, little differences between jellies, jams and preserves?
John Shull 1:00:12
Yeah, I'm sure they're finite differences,
Nick VinZant 1:00:14
you know what I mean. But they're not the same thing in your mind.
Speaker 1 1:00:18
No, they're not the same thing. Just like my phone
Nick VinZant 1:00:21
is not a landline. Okay, that's gonna go ahead and do it for this episode of profoundly pointless. I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance, leave us a quick review. We really appreciate. It really helps us out and let us know what you think are the best flavor combinations. I think that you have to admit that salt and pepper is the most useful, but peanut butter and jelly is just the best. It's just incredible.