In the world of Financial Domination you have to pay to serve. And for Dominatrix Ruby Enraylls people are willing to pay big. Go inside the world of Financial Domination as we talk fin dom experiences, humiliation and money management. Then, we countdown the Top 5 Worst Car Sounds.
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Interview with Financial Dominatrix Ruby Enraylls
Nick VinZant 0:05
Welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick VinZant. Coming up in this episode, financial domination, and car sounds,
Ruby Enraylls 0:14
everyone has a different style. I'm less of a demanding type dominatrix and more of a like you want to do this for me because of XYZ. And I would describe most of the like financial domination scenes as less like planned than most other scenes and more like sexy harassment 2020 We got real weird, let me tell you, people were really bored in 2020 and 2021. I want to
Nick VinZant 0:51
thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance to subscribe, leave us a rating or review, we really appreciate it really helps us out. If you're a new listener, welcome to the show. If you're a longtime listener, thank you so much for all of your support. So our first guest is a dominatrix who specializes in a certain kind of domination. This is Financial dominatrix Ruby on Rails. What is financial domination?
Ruby Enraylls 1:22
I sort of depends on who you ask. But it's dominating someone financially. Like it's either taking direct control of their finances, or having them buy you shit.
Nick VinZant 1:35
Like how much money are we talking? I guess
Ruby Enraylls 1:37
some people only spend like $5 at a time some people spend 1000s, what would
Nick VinZant 1:45
you say would kind of be the average, like if you looked at your average client, okay, they're gonna probably be spending this much. Financial
Ruby Enraylls 1:51
domination is not really like charging, if that makes sense. Because the whole gravitas behind it is that you are not charging for a service somebody is willingly giving you something, or you are engaging in some sort of like mental domination, where like, they feel forced is the wrong word. But they feel inclined to do something
Nick VinZant 2:26
for you. They're either giving it to you or like you're demanding
Ruby Enraylls 2:30
it, everyone has a different style. I am less of a demanding type dominatrix and more of a like you want to do this for me, because of XYZ. So what's the appeal? A lot of the people that I play with it's a rush to do it. I mean, if you've ever gone shopping and spent, you know a certain amount of money, it's like a rush. A lot of people have a shopping addiction. And for a lot of people, it's really humiliating to give a woman money for something they wouldn't, you know, ordinarily have, like I have people who give me money to have fun that they're not having.
Nick VinZant 3:17
Does it go along with other kinds of fetishes and kinks? Or is this kind of like no, this is usually they're just going to be into this or is this kind of come with like a whole bag, so to speak,
Ruby Enraylls 3:28
every single person is different. But in my personal experience, it tends to go with other kinks. Like humiliation is a really common one. So and that takes all sorts of different flavors like humiliation is just an umbrella. I would put I'm forced by in that category for spinning in
Nick VinZant 3:55
air. Yeah, yeah, like forced but not forced. Right?
Ruby Enraylls 3:59
Yeah, like Oh, Mistress forced me to do this thing I'm asking you to make me do. And like Kolding is often in that feminization. Sometimes, you know, quote, unquote, blackmail?
Nick VinZant 4:15
So is it? Is it sexual?
Ruby Enraylls 4:17
That's directly No.
Nick VinZant 4:19
So how does this kind of ultimately work to where someone is doing their thing, so to speak?
Ruby Enraylls 4:26
Well, a lot of BDSM is like that, where it's very indirect, where like, you're not necessarily doing something with like, buy something I mean, something directly sexual with some one like in a traditional sense, like a vanilla sense. And by that, I mean like, you know, intercourse that kind of deal. Like you may be doing something that is completely unrelated and unrecognizable on the surface to someone who's vanilla as sexual at all. You're like, why would you give a woman money? and find that hot, I don't understand why would you spend more money than is, you know, in your budget? That makes no sense. But I think what thin subs find hot about that is that it wasn't necessarily something they planned on doing, it wasn't necessarily something they, quote unquote wanted to do at the beginning. They felt like they had no control over the situation they felt, you know, quote, unquote, manipulated into it. And that is the part that they find sexy. And sometimes they feel like lesser than the woman, but they look up to her, if that makes sense. So, and in the end of that act, or like, in the end of like, you know, and interaction, which sometimes can go on for like weeks, right? Um, then somewhere in the middle of that they might do
Nick VinZant 6:06
their thing. Let's refer to it as doing. Um,
Ruby Enraylls 6:09
yeah, do their thing is good. I like so that would be the
Nick VinZant 6:12
like, what I kind of don't quite understand is like, okay, so if they're doing their thing, like, what are they doing their thing to the act of like giving you 10 $10 or something like that, like, do it to that, or they're doing it to the idea that they were, they're doing it to you? Like, what are they doing their thing, too, I guess, would be the question of
Ruby Enraylls 6:34
the whole thing. Like the, like, it's the idea. They're doing their thing, too. I like how I'm just like,
Nick VinZant 6:44
visual visual aid. Oh, yeah.
Ruby Enraylls 6:47
Oh, yeah. Someone's gonna do their thing to that later. Um, because there are tons of videos of that of women just doing this and saying, you are going to give me X amount of money for because I exist, and you want to make me happy. And that's a whole genre of porn, just by the by. And that is a thing that people do their thing too. But I some of the people that I play with, like to be humiliated, like that, but what I? So to answer your question, what they're doing, you're saying to lots of different things,
Nick VinZant 7:27
lots of different things, but the whole thing at the same time, like it's all an experience that kind of comes along with it,
Ruby Enraylls 7:34
I think it's being humiliated. D, would
Nick VinZant 7:36
you say that kind of financial domination is fundamentally different than other kinds of domination?
Ruby Enraylls 7:41
Not necessarily, I think it's just more popular because a lot of, you know, more popular for women to try to get into. Because they saw it as like, oh, it's an opportunity for me to just make a social media account, posted pictures of myself, and then men will give me money. But it's much more nuanced than that. And I mean, like, if you just insulted guy on the internet, and say, you know, give me you know, money for my Starbucks, like it might happen. But financial domination is not as common. A fetish for people to have as people think the thing that makes it sometimes different is that oftentimes people will go too far with it. And then it will end up being sort of a destructive thing, where like, they will get themselves in trouble, like spending significantly too much. But that ends up also being a fetish, right, like toeing the line of like, Is this actually a life problem? For me?
Nick VinZant 8:51
How do you kind of, I guess, be responsible in that sense of like, okay, this person wants to give me $250, but they really can't afford it. Like, how do you kind of make sure that you're not taking like taking real advantage of somebody like, Well,
Ruby Enraylls 9:07
I think, in some cases, it's impossible to know, unless you really know the person. And if you're just having a one off interaction with someone online, it's really difficult to know. Right? And that is kind of a matter of personal responsibility. Yours and theirs, right? Like if somebody is going around on wine interacting with any attractive woman, and saying, like, please, Mistress, let me give you $200 I'm just going to find someone who's going to take it right. Yeah. So like and the way that I interact with people like I try to not be I try to not be pushy and less like it's a fun interaction and at the The end of the day, if someone is really like, no hard stop, like, I just don't care, I don't care. I mean, like, I'm not going to force somebody truly, to do something that is bad for them.
Nick VinZant 10:09
Can you kind of get a sense of somebody's like, Hey, man, this might be their last 500 bucks or something like that? Can you kind of get a sense of that?
Ruby Enraylls 10:18
Not from a one off interaction, right? Like, in some cases, certainly. Yes. But like that's like, you know them face to face, right? Like, how can you tell over the internet? Like from like a random Twitter account? There's no way to know, where do
Nick VinZant 10:35
you kind of like are most of your clients then? Is it a virtual thing? Or is it in person? When you look at the financial domination?
Ruby Enraylls 10:43
Most financial domination stuff is online. So there's no way to know for sure. If
Nick VinZant 10:48
we were to kind of like look at a normal or not normal, but your average kind of client interaction and if we need to, like pretend I'm the client or whatever, like, how does this usually go about they contact you? What kind of how does this work? So
Ruby Enraylls 11:01
some terminology, just basic, BDSM terminology, and a scene, the person who's doing the things is usually called the top and the person who's having the things done to him is usually called the bottom. A bottom is not necessarily a submissive, and the top is not necessarily dominant. In my case, I trend towards dominant in pretty much everything. But anyway, that aside, I'm typically like, when I engage in financial domination scenes, they are like, kind of playful. Like, I will poke at some, like, fetish that someone has, like, let's say, someone, like, has a fetish for like, cuckolding, right? Um, I'll make some joke about like, oh, it would be so terrible, if like, you paid for me to go out on a date with my girlfriend. Like, it'd be awful if you did that, like. I can just imagine all the fun things we might do. You'd be enabling us to do that. And depending on how they engage with me, um, I'll take it in a different route. Like, if they engage with that line of Atlanta thoughts, then I'll continue with it. And if they're just like, No, that is not what I'm into today, like, then all sorts of try, you know, nipping away at something else. And I would describe most of the, like financial domination scenes as less like planned than most other scenes and more like, sexy harassment. Which is, I think what a lot of people like about them is that it is very unexpected, kind of, like when you get like a hot picture sent to you from someone that you're dating. It's
Nick VinZant 13:22
less kind of a thing that like, we're going to do this between like 10 and 11 o'clock and more kind of a thing. Like, I'm going to send you a message randomly throughout the day. Be like, pretty sure this coffee or something like that kind of along those lines. Yeah.
Ruby Enraylls 13:35
Yeah. And I'm less like, pay for this coffee kind of girl and more, like, I'm bored. I'm gonna harass you and see if he'll buy my girlfriend a pair of shoes.
Nick VinZant 13:45
And then and then they'll usually like that's the thing then Right? Then they'll go ahead? How long will these kind of if you were to take like an interaction with somebody from kind of start to beginning of that interaction? Are we talking like, one message to message three message? They're done? Are we like, do these things go on for a while? Or like, what's the time frame?
Ruby Enraylls 14:07
Every one is different. Sometimes it'll be like, instantaneous, like, here, you got Mr. So bought the shoes. Or, like, sometimes I'll have to chip away at it. And it'll be like, a couple of days. You know? And like, I don't mean like constant a couple of days. I mean, like, I'll send them a message every now and again. But it's usually like not that many by my standards. So And I suspect that like if I really, truly cared and like was deeply invested in it if I like did more of the leg video call and phone call nature, it would be way less interaction but I find the messaging back and forth and likes Actually harassment thing to be very entertaining. Dee
Nick VinZant 15:03
Dee, do you personally kind of enjoy it from a sexual aspect? Like, is this something that you're into for lack of a better phrase? Or is it like, this is something that I do, and I'm good at?
Ruby Enraylls 15:16
I mean, it's both. That's how I view all the domination stuff is like it is sexy amusement. So I like when people do things for me. And like, one thing that I particularly like, is when people like, quote, unquote, get more than they asked for. So it falls into that bucket, even if it's like, I don't know, I really just only intended to buy you one coffee, and I bought you for
Nick VinZant 15:48
Oh, but okay, I'm just gonna ask you it. Like, did you ever do your thing? To this to like, the interactions that you have? Um,
Ruby Enraylls 16:03
yeah. I mean, I've done that to like, all sorts of different interactions. So with, like, things one wouldn't imagine, right? Like, just from a vanilla standpoint, you're like, why would you do that? And it's less like, the, for me, it's less about the Lego somebody gave me money or bought me a thing, because who cares? It's stuff, right? Um, and more about the like, Oh, you did that.
Nick VinZant 16:34
That's funny. I don't know what it says. But it says something like, I can't put my finger on exactly like the terminology of what it says. But like, Oh, I get what that kind of implies, right? Like, I get where that? It's, um, you feel powerful?
Ruby Enraylls 16:49
Yeah, it's having somebody wrapped around your little finger to the point of where they will bend over backwards. And, like, do something that they personally find really degrading, and is also expensive. So and that they then afterwards feel like regret for is fun. And hot. Right? So and like, if they're truly like, I really can't afford this after the fact. And like, I don't care, whatever. Have you ever had somebody asked for their money back? From financial domination? No. I mean, in general, no, I think the whole thing about the financial domination thing and people getting in over their head is very similar to the thing about submissives, who enjoy pain and who like feeling the bruise and the staying, and like showing off bruises, right? It's like a reminder of the experience, which is fascinating, and not really a thing I understood at the very beginning. Like, if I spend too much on like, that's a mistake. I'm not doing that again, like, and I feel regretful I don't feel shame about it. I just feel like an idiot.
Nick VinZant 18:03
Are you ready for some harder slash listener submitted questions? Sure. Is this in any way related to sugar dating?
Ruby Enraylls 18:08
Um, I don't think so. I think that some Sugar Babies like to view it as similar and I've seen in a lot of communities online, a lot of discussion of some transition over. But in my opinion, no, because it's not really financial domination, if you aren't really dominating somebody,
Nick VinZant 18:38
has anybody ever asked you to just take complete control of their finances? frequently?
Ruby Enraylls 18:42
Yes. That's interesting to see what people spend money on.
Nick VinZant 18:46
So like, go over there, go over their taxes and stuff. Like what are you doing when you get asked that?
Ruby Enraylls 18:53
Yeah, spreadsheets of expenses and stuff like that, and budgeting, honestly.
Nick VinZant 18:59
So what is that now? Is that like a sub genre of it? Is that called something different? Or is that no, that just falls under
Ruby Enraylls 19:06
that is a sub genre of financial domination. And I can't remember what it's called off the top of my head. But yeah, that is definitely like an established sub genre. With some people that is a lot of overhead.
Nick VinZant 19:21
What we will get in that kind of situation like what will you be doing you'll just you manage their finances entirely.
Ruby Enraylls 19:27
I like to set people up with a plan personally. Um, and usually I like to leave people in those situations where like, if they do happen to overspend on financial domination, they're not left like destitute. So I've put people in situations where like, they actually have like large amounts of savings afterwards that they're not allowed to touch. And
Nick VinZant 19:50
so you'd be like assigning you can spend this much on this this much on that, like, how does that kind of I
Ruby Enraylls 19:55
mean, like, you just help people make a realistic Budget, right? And help people plan things out. And like, it's also not that hard to look at how to consolidate debt, right? Like if someone has a whole bunch of credit cards, the interest rates on those are astronomical. So you can I mean, depending on what other options you have, you can consolidate those just directly through I mean, you could get a home equity line of credit. If you own a house, or a different type of loan from your bank, there's a bunch of different options. Oh,
Nick VinZant 20:37
it sounds. That's what's fascinating. To me. It sounds like you're doing like a really good job when you manage their finances.
Ruby Enraylls 20:43
Well, why? Why would I do a bad job? For someone that is serving me? That's stupid.
Nick VinZant 20:51
I guess I just kind of thought along the lines of like, okay, I'm gonna tell you what you can spend, I didn't think that you would be like telling them, Hey, invest in a 401 K or something like that?
Ruby Enraylls 21:01
Well, I do that too. Like, hey, you should open a savings account at like these places, because they have great rates, and great returns.
Nick VinZant 21:11
I find that so interesting. For some reason that like being a good accountant, I thought it would be more just like along the sexual lines of like, I'm going to manage your money. I
Ruby Enraylls 21:21
mean, personally, like someone is of no use to me. If they are like, destitute, they've, you know, ruined their job. Like, they have a huge amount of debt. And like, they can't keep up with payments on anything that's not useful to me. Like, they're way more useful to me if like they've sorted all that shit out. And they're free of everything, right? And they have like, a large amount of savings if they ever happened to make a frickin mistake. Like, right, civility is totally priceless.
Nick VinZant 21:53
Ain't that the truth? I think the reason that I had the reaction to it is because one of the first people we interviewed on the podcast was a dominatrix. And she had the best tax advice. And she actually I use her accountant. I assume you'd like you can spend 500 on food this month or whatever, not like, Hey, you got to really, you got to diversify your bonds or something like that?
Ruby Enraylls 22:16
Yeah. Well, I mean, I use either Vanguard, or, Oh, God was the other one. I use Wealthfront, or fidelity. Fidelity does not charge fees. I don't use the apps because they are like the apps like Robin Hood. Um, because in case anything happens to be unstable, they kind of upset the market, if that makes sense. Like your trades won't necessarily go through. I know a lot of people in finance and a lot of people in tech. So
Nick VinZant 22:55
yeah, what is your most frequent request?
Ruby Enraylls 22:59
My most frequent request is misters, to whatever he wants to do. whatever pleases you is, honestly my most frequent requests at this point in time, I used to get like when I was younger, I used to get very hyper specific requests about like, oh, I have this like XYZ fantasy and like, I don't know, a lot of my requests are, like, let's have a good time together. Or like, I don't know, sometimes I get requests of like people wanting to learn something new. So I get tends to fall into one of those two buckets.
Nick VinZant 23:36
Is there one that you would stand that stands out to you or like an experience in the financial domination aspect that you would say that was either my most interesting or one that kind of jumps out at me like I still remember this interaction with this person.
Ruby Enraylls 23:50
Trying to think back to like 2020 because 2020 was funny 2020 We got real weird let me tell you, people were really bored in 2020 and 2021. Cuz the market again was like up and people were just like wasting money on fire. So I ended up with a lot of things. Like I recently discovered that like part of my Amazon wishlist, I didn't set the settings right. So I kept getting multiples of everything. So I have like, more Halloween costumes than a spirit Halloween. Like, way more like one person bought everything that was on there. And then there were multiples of everything else. So like, it's insane. I mean, I like have someone who several people actually who like now have large amounts of savings as a result
Nick VinZant 24:58
of of Utah. taking over their accounts. Yeah, how much? Like how much of money? Have you saved them? Do you think if you had to put a number on it?
Ruby Enraylls 25:08
Um, 10s of 1000s. It
Nick VinZant 25:10
kind of seems like people should just do this from a business standpoint. This isn't my thing, but I'm starting to be like, do you want to? Just like, it seems like you're doing a good job. I'm most amount of money somebody's ever given you at one time?
Ruby Enraylls 25:29
Ah, oops. Not sure I want to say that on.
Nick VinZant 25:36
Can you say? Three figures? Four figures? Five figures? Six, seven. Can you put a figure on? Definitely
Ruby Enraylls 25:45
not seven? I don't think six either.
Nick VinZant 25:49
What would you say? Like what? What's the most frequent denomination? Are we talking like? Under 100? Over 100? What are people? Definitely
Ruby Enraylls 25:57
over 100. Like for financial domination is usually get least for me over five.
Nick VinZant 26:05
Are women interested in this?
Ruby Enraylls 26:08
Oh, yeah, surprisingly, I mean, women are interested in everything. Right? Like anything a man is interested in a woman is interested in too. Like, we just, that was not a thing I thought originally, and then I have a friend with a very strong foot fetish. Which like, was kind of eye opening to me when I first interacted with her at a party. But that made me ruminate a bit on, um, you know, women having kinks. But do you have?
Nick VinZant 26:43
Do you have clients? Who are women?
Ruby Enraylls 26:47
I have a lot of clients that are women.
Nick VinZant 26:49
If you had to put a percentage on it, are we talking like 70%? Men? 30%? Women? 6040? What do you think it would be?
Ruby Enraylls 26:55
I'd say it's probably more like 9010.
Nick VinZant 26:59
That's still more than I would have thought it would be? Yeah,
Ruby Enraylls 27:03
but it definitely comes in waves. Where like, I'll go a bit without seeing women and then like my entire schedule women, what
Nick VinZant 27:12
would you say make someone a good financial dominatrix?
Ruby Enraylls 27:16
Ah. I mean, I think what makes anyone a good dominatrix actually is having compassion. And being able to put yourself in someone else's shoes from a standpoint of like, understanding of what exactly you are asking of someone, and exactly what the kink is, right. So like, it's, again, it's not as simple as like, Oh, he's just gonna give me money. And it's not as simple as like, I'm just going to make him more panties. So there's a bit of complexity to
Nick VinZant 27:56
everything. Um, that's pretty much all the questions that we have. Is there anything that you kind of think that we missed or anything like that? Right? Like, when somebody talks about like, Okay, do they usually want it combined with something else? Like, will you usually say to somebody, you need to send me $250 And then put on women's underwear? Or is it more just kind of confined to like, send me $250? So I can go out to eat or something like that? Like, do you come out? All depends on the person? Like,
Ruby Enraylls 28:22
yeah, it all depends, like, sometimes it's just standalone. But in that instance, it will be standalone. And sometimes you can, can or do add an element of humiliation into it. Right? And that humiliation can be like, honestly, anything.
Nick VinZant 28:51
Are these people that are doing this, like, are they? They single? Are they usually in a relationship with somebody else? Like do you get the sense that these are men with girlfriends, women with girlfriends, etc. I
Ruby Enraylls 29:04
think most of the people that I interact with tends to be at least in like the financial domination situation. are single. It does get a little bit weird when they're in relationships, honestly. And some people some dominatrixes take it in the direction of like, Oh, I'm so much hotter than your wife blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like I also think that's derogatory towards women and I'm pretty anti anything that's derogatory towards women. So yeah,
Nick VinZant 29:44
that kind of gets
Ruby Enraylls 29:45
into that's a no no for me it gets into some and that's not a no no for me like oh my God, how could you ever but like I just don't like saying things that are mean towards other women because I think that we Should just sort of keep it towards being mean to people who are doing things for us who like it when we're mean to them not to just everyone. And also like, Why drag somebody into this? Who did not fucking consent to it like, yeah, it's just, it's just enabling bad behavior. Yeah, I had somebody asked me once, to, like, encourage him to like jack off into his wife's coffee without, like, her permission, and I was like, absolute fucking Lully not. Um,
Nick VinZant 30:35
that's pretty much all the questions that we have is like, if people want to learn more about this, if they're interested in being a client, what should they do that kind of stuff. Um,
Ruby Enraylls 30:45
my website is Ruby loves you.com. And beware of catfish pretending to be me on basically any website. I
Nick VinZant 30:55
want to thank Ruby's so much for joining us if you want to connect with her, we have linked to her on our social media sites. We're Profoundly Pointless on Tik Tok, Instagram and YouTube. And we've also included her information in the episode description. The YouTube version of this interview will be live on November 16, at 12:30pm Pacific. Okay, now, let's bring in John Shaw and get to the pointless part of this show. When you left school, do you think that you were ready for real life? Do
John Shull 31:31
I think I could have made it? Yes. Do I think I was ready when I left high school? Absolutely not. And it's kind of a bigger rant for me. However, I don't think they teach common sense. And things you need to know in high school that way for a person graduating high school just to be able to get right out. And in, you know, join the world. I
Nick VinZant 31:54
think that you learn how things are supposed to be I don't think that you learn how things actually are. Nobody like tells you like, look, no, this is how this really works.
John Shull 32:05
Nobody you know, you don't take a cooking class, I don't think anymore, you should be able know how to manage bills and money. The difference between credit and debit and in percentages.
Nick VinZant 32:18
I think though, that honestly, those kinds of things are things that people tried to teach you. You just weren't ever in an age myself included, to pay any attention to it. Because you had plenty of opportunities to learn those things, right? Like you could have been with your parents and learn how to cook. Or if you ask them, like how do you balance a checkbook? I think that you had the opportunity to learn those things. You just didn't do it. I
John Shull 32:39
mean, don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'm sure something was said by my economics teacher about aprs and financing, and of course, right? You're, you're a young person, you're just like, oh, that doesn't matter, and then come to find out it does,
Nick VinZant 32:52
right, you're never able to listen to the things that you're supposed to be paying attention to. It's only like 10 years later that you realize like, oh, I should have probably learned that. I think the biggest thing that I kind of wasn't prepared for was, I had always thought that okay, the people older than you are going to know what they're talking about, like your managers are going to know what they're doing hard work is going to get you where you you want to go. And like none of those things were true. Like nobody ever told you the truth that like, look, you're going to be surrounded by people who are in positions of authority, but they're actually idiots. And all this hard work of the American dream, kind of not really true.
John Shull 33:31
And I don't want people to think that we're being hard or you know, or like just having a grim outlook. But it's absolutely true that a lot of times your bosses at least to start out with when you're a younger person and impressionable probably aren't going to know as much as you think they do or give you the advice that you think they should give you. But part of that, to me is a finding yourself, right. However, I think that's different than being in school, graduating, and trying to go into the real world. I've always haven't gone through a four year college. I'm not sure what college really does, to be honest with you. Yeah, it kind of tells you maybe what you're interested in. But I feel like most four year universities, you can do the same thing, and be done in two years and start your career.
Nick VinZant 34:23
College I think is essentially a personal reference without a person behind it. It's a piece of paper that says you can be trained to do a job. That's That's what college ultimately is at the end of it. I don't think it's for most professions. I don't think it's about learning how to do the actual ins and outs of anything. I think it's about saying, Hey, you now have a piece of paper that says you can be trained how to do another job.
John Shull 34:47
Here you go $85,000 Later, or I don't even know what college costs for four years and probably
Nick VinZant 34:53
$100,000 piece of paper that says yes, I can be trained. It's essentially somebody signing off on you. That's really all College is someone who's signing off on you saying this person has some level of intelligence, they can take a task and they can complete it. That's all college is. It's not about learning anything.
John Shull 35:12
Yeah, I mean, that's, that's fair to say. I still think that most colleges are money grabs, and it should not cost $150,000 to become a doctor. But what do I know? Well, yeah,
Nick VinZant 35:28
man that's like that's, that's a whole political rant, we can go on for days, right? Like you set up a system in a certain way. If the whole the system is set up to make as much money as possible, everybody's going to try to make as much money as possible,
John Shull 35:39
you know, it'd be a lot more fun is if the Hunger Games were real. And they put like, 20 Aspiring doctors in a in an arena. And we're like, the last one standing gets an automatic, you know, degree, you don't even have to go to school.
Nick VinZant 35:54
I think that's a terrible idea. Because then you're going to be operated on by a doctor who's just the toughest person there. That's a terrible idea. That's one of the worst. No, it's terrible. Like, if you want to apply that to another profession, no, any I want somebody who knows what they're doing doing just about anything. I don't ever want some idiot doing something fine. Let's
John Shull 36:15
stick 20 bank tellers in an arena, then? Also,
Nick VinZant 36:19
no, now you're messing with my money. I want somebody who knows what they're doing. This whole idea is a terrible way to do things.
John Shull 36:26
But it would be fun, right? It'd be entertaining. And
Nick VinZant 36:30
well, yeah, but can we just do it with people who don't need to do fundamental aspects of societal things?
John Shull 36:36
People don't have to die like we can just Taser them or I don't care
Nick VinZant 36:39
about them living or dying. I don't want them handling my taxes.
John Shull 36:44
Here's a follow up question for you. So if there was any profession that you think requires school, or coming right out of high school and having known a certain skill set? Would it be somebody in the financial industry? No,
Nick VinZant 36:58
I think that that's all just a bunch of people essentially legalized gambling. I don't think that anybody in the financial industry really knows what they're doing, like picking stocks. I think that's basically just gambling. But I think that you have to have people who know what they're doing, whether that's like a doctor, or a carpenter, right. Like you got, you'd have people need to know how they're what they're working on.
John Shull 37:20
Yeah, I mean, once again, anyone can hammer a nail into the floor, but
Nick VinZant 37:25
that's not fucking true. I couldn't, I couldn't build anything. I couldn't build a damn thing. I have no skills whatsoever. I
John Shull 37:32
mean, listen, I'm not the most skilled person. But I feel like if that was my only job was to learn how to do stuff like that, then maybe, maybe I could do it.
Nick VinZant 37:41
My grandpa is used to say work with your brain or your back. pick which one you want to do?
John Shull 37:48
Oh, that's actually great. I thought about that. For our second time. I was trying to think of some funny to say, but that's actually
Nick VinZant 37:54
it's a really great saying. And it's not one of those things where like, you make it up, it's you're saying, but you just attribute it to your grandpa, because then people will listen to you like, that's what he really used to said, like, decide early if you want to work with your brain or your back. There's no shame in either one, man. Everybody's got to, like some of the most important jobs in society are some of the blue collar jobs, right? Like you think plumbing ain't important until you flood your house.
John Shull 38:18
You got shit coming out of a valve somewhere that you don't know why that's happening. Suddenly,
Nick VinZant 38:21
the plumber is the smartest man in the world. You got to have a guy. Everybody needs to have a guy. It's
John Shull 38:27
a whole nother rant. But I've never understood why we seem to demean like that, like certain jobs like a plumber, right? Like, it's always the same picture that they always put out as this big oversized person with their ass crack hanging out, like trying to fix the toilet. Like, I've never seen a plumber like that. And actually, they're very needed and helpful.
Nick VinZant 38:49
It's just all perception. Right? Right. Yeah. I mean, maybe there is some like, Okay, some jobs, you could learn how to do maybe easier than other ones. But I don't think that that's necessarily true. I've tried to learn how to do any kind of trade work and I couldn't put together a desk from IKEA. It's just I mean, it's just perception, right? Like some jobs are perceived as being easier so they pay less money. A teaching is one of the hardest things you can do. We don't pay educators shit.
John Shull 39:16
Oh, it's less than we don't we don't go on rants, especially politically motivated ones. But I gotta tell you, that is one thing I would I would campaign for forever is teachers need they need more. I mean, they should be paid a lot more money. I
Nick VinZant 39:30
just have a firm belief to finish this whole conversation up. I just have a firm belief that you are never taught or learn the one thing that you need to actually know or learn. whatever situation you're in, in life, you're never taught the one thing that you need to know, or you never learned the one thing that you need to know. And then 10 years later, you're like, Man, I wish I would have known that. Okay.
John Shull 39:54
All right, let's get some shout outs here. We're gonna start off with Eric Ingerman. Josh O'Brien Hey, Carl here. Devin Garimella don't don't see a lot of Devon's usually. Albert Ragland, Austin Smith, Christopher Lewis, Gabrielle Mayer, George Mata and Anthony caster. Appreciate all of you and listen, if you haven't subscribed to our socials, you should check it out because they're pretty awesome. And we're about to hit a couple of milestones on a few of them. So I don't want to I don't want to jinx it because Nick thinks I Jinx everything but you do. If you haven't subscribed, you definitely should. I know you always kind of give it a shout out anyways, to do so. But I'm asking you to John, Mother effing Shoal is asking you to this time. Okay,
Nick VinZant 40:45
well, I'm watching this subscriber or follower or whatever account you're talking about racking up because you Jinx everything and saying, I don't I'm not gonna jinx it, you know, and then this is jinxing it.
John Shull 40:56
I'd say, Sir, I'm going to lead us into my second this, you know, I'm gonna make this a question. Or you can say a statement. I used to be superstitious, like when I was a younger person, I am not anymore.
Nick VinZant 41:12
I'm not superstitious. But I have a firm belief in the idea that once you try to grab something, it slips away from you. Because I think that once you kind of sit back a little bit and reflect on your success or possible success, you get a little bit lazy. I think that once you kind of acknowledge the possibility as it's ramping up, it slips away from you, because you kind of check out a little bit. That's what I think. So
John Shull 41:38
I just watched a show called bodies on Netflix, you should check it out. If you haven't, it's a couldn't get into that, actually. Oh, you actually checked it out, even though it's it kind of has a horror horror, like elements to it a little bit, not much, but a little bit,
Nick VinZant 41:52
you've got to okay, if you start a show, when are you? When are you going to back out of it? Like how far will you get into a show that you're not going to finish before you decide this isn't for me?
John Shull 42:04
I don't actually because I am one of those people that will spend two days trying to figure out if there's a show I want to watch. And I watch all the trailers, I see who's in it. I sometimes I'll read the Wikipedia to see like how it actually ends, and then I'll watch it like I'll commit. I do have to tell you though, that the limited series that are coming out, like like bodies, I think was like six episodes or whatever, I think there is going to be a season two but whatever. That's so much more appealing to me than like investing my time in like a 20 episode season of something.
Nick VinZant 42:38
I can't imagine myself watching a TV show that has multiple seasons that goes beyond three seasons, I can't even imagine it. I pretty much only watched limited series like I want this whole thing to be done in five episodes or six episodes.
John Shull 42:54
Yeah, I mean, I, I don't disagree. I think it's smart. I think the filmmakers and TV show folks are getting it, you know, Quicker, quicker results, less attention span and see what happens. Anyways, what I was getting to originally was one of the characters in there basically says that nothing is by chance, everything is predetermined. And the older I get, I'm starting to absolutely think that way that you know, you're born with certain genetic, you're basically born with a map of your life before you even before you even say a word. And that's why I don't think superstitions are necessarily applicable anymore.
Nick VinZant 43:34
I can kind of see that I agree with it in the sense that your life is kind of all mapped out for you pretty early on. It's basically a combination of genetics and your environment. And unless you get really lucky, it's pretty easy to see where you're going to kind of end up you're going to basically be your parents, unless something really changes. I kind of think that all people are basically the same. The person at the top would be the person at the bottom if they were faced with the same same circumstances and vice versa. I don't think that people are really special. We all would make the same decisions given the same resources and abilities. I
John Shull 44:10
mean, should I still think people who are special and wealthy and powerful still aren't special, so it doesn't matter. Oh, all right. Couple of things here for you one. I feel like I had a good intro there. But now I'm just going to ask you a couple questions. Okay. The what's the more regrettable tattoo a full on like just full sleeve but it's just the black ink like there is just, you know, it's just literally a black sleeve of ink. A forehead tattoo. Or a tramp stamp?
Nick VinZant 44:43
Oh, a forehead tattoo dude, I mean, that's pretty easy answer like that's right on your face. Anything else you can be hidden up. I would love to know like a percentage on what percentage of people regret the tattoos they got.
John Shull 44:58
That's the thing I feel like because you know you see A lot like I'm gonna use jelly roll as an example, the artists, the singer, the dude has all kinds of face tattoos. And you're telling me that if he loses a lot of weight, he's a bigger guy. Like, those aren't going to look fucked up. Or Or if he gets older, they're just not going to naturally fade and they're going to look terrible. face tattoos
Nick VinZant 45:18
are really hard things. I look if tattoos are your thing, they've just never personally been mine only because I could never think of anything that I really wanted to get. But like, face tattoo is a big move. A big move. Yeah, listen,
John Shull 45:34
like you said, I'm not hating on you. If you have them, like good on you. I just I have to tell you that. Not that my opinion matters. But I don't think I've ever seen one like a person with a face tattoo. Like on their forehead where I've gone. Okay, that's awesome. That's alright, I can see that. It's always like, Oh, shit. Like, that's, that's not a good look.
Nick VinZant 45:57
It's kind of crazy that in hindsight, Mike Tyson's face tattoo was is probably the best fake face tattoo.
John Shull 46:07
And that's not saying much, by the way. So
Nick VinZant 46:09
that's just not something I would personally do. I'd like to hear from somebody who's gotten a face tattoo like, Man, how do you just make that decision? That's a tough one.
John Shull 46:17
All right, second, second matter of business. Travis Kelce. Taylor Swift. Do you think it's real?
Nick VinZant 46:26
I think that it might be real, but it is the most manufactured PR relationship that I've ever seen. It's weird how all of the cameras just happened to be in exactly the like John and I both worked. John still does. I used to work in news and I started out as a photographer. And the interesting thing to me about it is you can see that all of these leaked photos or secret photos, or film photos all suddenly have these perfect eyelines. Like, all of this is staged, it's all played up. Maybe it's real, maybe it's not. But it's certainly a played up thing.
John Shull 47:01
Yeah, it's I don't think it's real at all. However, I say that because kind of loosely following Taylor Swift's love life for the last two decades. It seems like she really falls head over heels for whoever. And it always ends the same. So I have no I have no faith that this one will be different.
Nick VinZant 47:20
I feel like that's just all
John Shull 47:22
public relations. Could be could absolutely be. She
Nick VinZant 47:25
fascinates me in one regard only and that is a symbol and writes about as a symbol for a life that she has never lived in the sense that most of her songs are about being kind of your average person in high school. And she was in country music, but I think that she was born to a wealthy family in Philadelphia, New York. Never had any country roots never lived any kind of normal middle class upbringing, she essentially sings about and portrays a reputation of a life that she has never lived.
John Shull 47:59
While you said that very eloquently.
Nick VinZant 48:01
Yeah, that's the one thing that I don't understand about it, right? It's endlessly singing about a life that you have never lived. It's pandering.
John Shull 48:09
I almost don't even want to continue. I feel like we should just end the show. Which this whole show. Okay. All right. Last question. This kind of ties into our top five. I was just wondering this. What is your dream car?
Nick VinZant 48:23
One with four wheels?
John Shull 48:25
That's such a bullshit answer.
Nick VinZant 48:27
I don't care. I could care less about cars. I don't have a single dream car that I've ever thought of. Every time that I have gotten a car I bought three cars. And in all three circumstances I went to the dealership I was like, Alright, this is the one that I want. Give me the most basic model like well, we have this does that don't care? Like well, we want to get power windows on the truck. No, I can reach right across. I don't have it I could care less about a car. The only card that I need is a vehicle that has four wheels and gets me to where I'm going reliable a reliable car is my dream car. I could care less.
John Shull 49:01
Why did I Why did I just know you were not gonna have any kind of interesting answer at all to that they're
Nick VinZant 49:06
all the same to me. No, I don't I think that all cars my wife's car, which is a Toyota Highlander. Priya me. So Highlander. You don't have a Prius with four people. Toyota Highlander is the best car anyone would ever possibly need. Like you don't need anything in life beyond that. It's I think it's like $45,000 has everything you need. I don't think that you need to. I don't think you need anything more than a $45,000 car.
John Shull 49:36
The question wasn't what vehicles practical what's what's good for normal people? It's just you've never once in your life been like, Man, I really would love an Aston Martin or a Lamborghini.
Nick VinZant 49:47
No, I have never cared about cars.
John Shull 49:51
Okay, I don't think you have to care about cars to ever want something luxurious like that. But
Nick VinZant 49:59
you Nothing. Never. Okay, all right.
John Shull 50:03
Well, I mean, you still made it half interesting, but not really. So
Nick VinZant 50:07
what's your dream car?
John Shull 50:10
I've always wanted a Lamborghini and I, I effed up because when I first met my wife in Orlando, she bought me like a Groupon to where you can drive one like around a track somewhere. And for some reason, I didn't do it. And we ended up giving, we ended up giving it away to somebody else. Like one of our friends or something. So I could have at least gotten in it probably gone up to 150 180 miles. Well,
Nick VinZant 50:36
you could have driven it not just written with somebody else in it. No, like, I
John Shull 50:39
mean, from what I understood, I could have driven it so wow. That up? I did. I mean, obviously my dream, would it be able to get into a Formula One car, but I'm not even sure I could get my ass in the cockpit of one of those things, let alone be able to drive it successfully. So it's all good. Look,
Nick VinZant 50:57
I think that Formula One has way too many kinds of sexual innuendos to the cockpit in the pole position.
John Shull 51:04
That's all racing. That's not just Formula One.
Nick VinZant 51:07
Nobody talks about being in the pole position in NASCAR. He's first. They don't have to class it up with special words. Like he's in the pole position. You mean he gets to start first?
John Shull 51:19
I'm not going to hate on NASCAR. It's turn left going 200 miles an hour. He still got to be talented. However, give me cockpits pole positions. I'll take that all day.
Nick VinZant 51:30
I'm sure you will. I'm sure you will. Are we at our top five or do you have another one? No, we're
John Shull 51:37
ready to roll.
Nick VinZant 51:39
Okay, so our our top five is top five worst car sounds. What's your number five. There's a lot of really bad sound. Yeah, car makes you like oh, I don't want to hear that. Yeah,
John Shull 51:50
I hope us saying these brings back terrible memories for some of you out there. So I'm gonna start with my number five. And that is basically slowly hearing the air go out of one of your tires. Oh, it is and you can be driving. You can be feeling the tire up. You can be trying to check it out. But when you just hear that song. And then it just talked. Oh, you're fucked. And it is. It's so deflating. Because then your mind just goes to you know, do I have a spare? Do have a jack? You know, if you're at the dealership or whatever. It's like, well, then I have to spend $800 on new tires. It's just it's a terrible, terrible sound. Oh,
Nick VinZant 52:32
yeah. Because that's just like, how much is this going to cost me? Yeah, how much is this going to cost me and it's just endless complications to throw change a tire new cars, maybe four new tires. Yeah,
John Shull 52:45
pro tip out there for all of you who may not have a car yet. Tires cost a lot more than you think they do.
Nick VinZant 52:52
Yeah, that's why I buy cheap cars, man. I can go get four new tires for the car. I have it cost me four and $50.
John Shull 52:59
Yeah, but that's that's it? I mean, okay, that's not expensive, but not I mean, but when you're, you know, when you're a young person or even an old person, you don't have that kind of income. And you're like, Well, I've done now. Fine four and $50 so I can drive my car like, tires,
Nick VinZant 53:12
expensive, man. But next to the road. You got to be watching out for him. My number five is a seatbelt alarm. It just annoys the crap out of me because I'm gonna put it on. Just let me do it at my pace. Those
John Shull 53:25
are I mean, they are terrifying and it's just Ding ding ding
Nick VinZant 53:32
It's always like I'm doing something. It's terrible. It's
John Shull 53:38
yeah, it's by far. That's probably the most annoying like not her like not harmless sound in a car I bet.
Nick VinZant 53:47
Ah, I have one a higher on the list that I would say is the most annoying non harmless one. Or not like that. That means something's like it's not something bad necessarily like something wrong with the car wash number four. When
John Shull 54:02
your air conditioning or heat goes out, and you can just hear the vent just tucked in, nothing comes out and you're like, is there a bomb in my engine? Way? Why isn't there any air coming out? Why does it sound like there's a monkey in there just fucking around, you know, just hitting the thing over and over and over again. It's just a shitty sound. Therefore,
Nick VinZant 54:22
just go for 60 Air man.
John Shull 54:25
I don't even know what all what just rolled down the windows
Nick VinZant 54:28
for windows down at 60 miles an hour for 60 air you never heard for 60 year.
John Shull 54:33
I haven't No, but it's it's the worst man because yeah, I don't have to explain why but it's just not a good sound to have when you're driving or in a car.
Nick VinZant 54:43
What's the fastest that you will drive with your windows down?
John Shull 54:46
Oh, I mean, trust me. i Well, I haven't had air conditioning in my car. ever actually, since I wasn't a Florida so i mean i Wow. 85 I mean, I'll go I go on the highway with it. It's Fine,
Nick VinZant 55:00
I would never I would the most I'm gonna go is like, busy arterial Street. I think people know what I'm talking about, right? It's like the main street. That's not a highway. I'm not going over 45 With my windows down.
John Shull 55:13
I will say this though, that somebody commented, I used to have my hand like out the window. Then somebody wants commented and uh, how bad that made me look. So now, now I don't put my hand out out of the window anymore.
Nick VinZant 55:27
What do you mean your hand out the window? Like how far like it's just resting on the window sill? Or, like, you're sticking it out there? Like you're?
John Shull 55:33
Yeah, you know, like you have it out or you have it hanging over the side of the door. No, I know. I get it. Now. I get it. I don't do it anymore. It was a lesson that needed to be learned. And I learned it. You
Nick VinZant 55:45
should have your hand hanging out the door.
John Shull 55:50
You know what I should have learned after I got stung by two bees within a week doing that, by the way, because I was driving and literally one of them. I mean, this is what years ago, but I was driving and I felt something in my arm. I look and there's a damn be stuck to it going down the road.
Nick VinZant 56:04
Why did you start doing this? What was? Once
John Shull 56:09
again, it's kind of like what we mentioned earlier, or what we were talking about earlier. My parents did it. So somewhere in May I started to do it. And then somebody along the way, tried to be cool. Like dad. Well, you know, he probably had a sickness hand though. At least he had a reason I didn't. So I
Nick VinZant 56:26
did have a truck one time that the door got bent and I had to climb out the back window. guy to get it in and out of the back window of the car. It had like a little I don't know what they call those on a truck. But you had like the back window could spread apart. Yeah. And I had to get in and out through the back window. Like
John Shull 56:43
on a regular basis. No, yeah,
Nick VinZant 56:45
I was gonna weigh in or out. Do what I do. Like I didn't give a shit. It was kind of fun. All right, all right. What's your number one like a, like a spy movie, like jumping in the back. My number four is a loud exhaust. I hate a loud exhaust. I can't stay in that sound.
John Shull 57:03
So that's actually my number three. I so I don't I've never driven around with one. But obviously you hear them all over. It's just there's so many things you can do to mitigate that and people don't for whatever reason, I've
Nick VinZant 57:14
never understood the idea of like upgrading it just so that this exhaust sounds louder if you do something to the car that makes it faster or handle better. Okay, that's one thing, but just going in there and be like Nah, man, I'm gonna pay 100 bucks. So this thing sounds
John Shull 57:27
twice as loud. Just makes no sense at all no
Nick VinZant 57:31
sense to me. My number three is the scrape of hitting a curb. Like when you hit it and said like and you everybody like oh, he just checked it.
John Shull 57:41
Do we have so my number two is pulling into a parking spot and like running over the parking block or the roll like hitting it with the front? Yeah, and then you have to like put it in reverse and it's like yeah, it's so bad. It's so terrible.
Nick VinZant 57:57
I live in a place Seattle where there's a good amount of bad drivers like a good amount of like oh my god that person can't drive because Seattle used to be pretty bad with traffic so you wouldn't really get going that fast that much and I don't think that people were accustomed to that now that the speed is kind of increasing you can move around pretty well. But I saw somebody like pull just flat out turn completely miss where they were trying to go like the driveway and just bash right into the curb. And like go go home and then when the car goes up and then they come Oh, that's a terrible sound hitting the curb. That you're number two.
John Shull 58:36
That's my number two. Yep.
Nick VinZant 58:37
My number two is when you start the car and it's already started that like Oh, that's terrible sound.
John Shull 58:47
That is terrible. That is Yeah, or like when you turn it off too soon, like before you put it in park or something on accident and it's just
Nick VinZant 58:58
oh yeah, like you're still moving and you throw it in park and it just like you're good yeah, that's terrible.
John Shull 59:05
That's a bad one. Or like if you're driving shift and you met and you miss it the clutch or something or just miss it in general, like and I'm just making that grinding sound drive. You know how to drive a stick? Not successfully. I feel like I could probably take me a half a day to learn. But yeah, I think I could I know I could.
Nick VinZant 59:27
Okay, so you've never driven one is you don't just I've tried I've tried so then No, you don't
John Shull 59:34
think I tried driving your truck one day?
Nick VinZant 59:38
Oh, maybe every car I've ever had has been a stick shift. I'm
John Shull 59:41
pretty sure I drove it and I'm pretty sure I almost were you had to be in it with me Don't you remember this i i missed the clutch and we didn't go up hill we kept going back backwards.
Nick VinZant 59:52
Oh, maybe I do remember this. Or
John Shull 59:54
maybe like drive it and maybe we're doing something and like you asked me to bring you your I don't remember but I really remember being in your truck and just biffen it in the in an Orlando parking garage? Oh, I
Nick VinZant 1:00:06
know what this was You did me a favor. I was at a town or something like that and you move my car. And then somebody else had to do it because you didn't know how to do it.
John Shull 1:00:15
I'm like, why is this fucking thing going forwards? It was bad, man. It's not a lot of
Nick VinZant 1:00:21
people who can drive stick now. Okay, what's your number one?
John Shull 1:00:24
Oh, man, every time this happens, I just my stomach turns into knots. That's when the gas light comes on. Hmm,
Nick VinZant 1:00:35
I can see that as being a number one. My number one is silence. Because that means your car's not working. That silence is the worst, worst sound that a car can make.
John Shull 1:00:47
I appreciate you for that. But no, I It's I used to be so paranoid of the Gaslight that when it came on, I got to the nearest gas station no matter what I was doing. Like, you know, because you have what, like 40 Miles most cars have 40 miles left or something? Yeah, yeah. As soon as I would come on, I would book it. Like, like, I was like literally going to the engine was going to die and sees if I didn't get it to the gas station.
Nick VinZant 1:01:15
Oh, you panicked?
John Shull 1:01:16
I panicked? I didn't precautious you were panic. No, I'm Yeah. And then I met my wife. And she was like, Dude, you're an idiot. Like, it can be on for like, 40 miles, you
Nick VinZant 1:01:26
have nothing to worry about. Oh, you didn't know that.
John Shull 1:01:29
I know. I that is something I did not learn until I got I'm gonna sound like such a terrible person. I also did not know that the arrow on the gas, you know, the gas meter. The gas gauge tells you which side your your gas is on your fuel tank. I
Nick VinZant 1:01:51
would make fun of you. But I didn't know that until I was probably my mid 20s.
John Shull 1:01:56
Yeah, I mean, that would be me too. But you know, late 20s 2627. I had no idea
Nick VinZant 1:02:00
if I remember, right, like I took a picture of it and like posted something to social media. And everybody else was like, oh, yeah, idiot. You didn't know that. Like, I thought I had stumbled across some great discussion
John Shull 1:02:11
from my wife. My wife was like, yeah, you've you've lived 25 years without ever knowing that. How did you ever live?
Nick VinZant 1:02:18
I had no idea. I had no idea. That's what that was. But now I look at it every time and feel smart. Yeah, well, me too. How many of you read it? Have you ever fully ran out of gas? Never.
John Shull 1:02:29
And if I ever do, you might as well just hit me with your car because that means that I've given up on life.
Nick VinZant 1:02:34
Mm hmm. I did one time. One time I completely ran out of gas because I wanted to I was traveling across the country and I wanted to be like, I wonder how close I can get this down. Let's I can I can make that I can make that. I didn't I didn't make it.
John Shull 1:02:49
No, you did it. But you're here to tell the story. So it's good. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 1:02:52
it's not that big of a deal. The car just kind of sputters out and you like pull over. You're like, well, I guess I'm walking. We go walking. He was walking was fine. What's in your honorable mention? There's tons of a man. Yeah,
John Shull 1:03:05
I'll name just a couple that grind my gears. Specifically, one is the grinding of your brakes when they're gone.
Nick VinZant 1:03:13
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like the the pads are down. You hear that? Yeah.
John Shull 1:03:16
And you're like, My engine is going and then you go to the dealership or the mechanic or like, no, actually, your brake pads are just gone. What's more annoying than that, though, is like hitting the brakes in them squealing that's pretty annoying. Oh,
Nick VinZant 1:03:32
yeah. Yeah, I'll give you that one out there. That's
John Shull 1:03:36
bad. Also, this doesn't pertain to everybody at all. But I once had a car that the gas cap. I couldn't get it on. So for like, a year, I would drive and it would just hit the side of my car. tink, tink Tink. That's quite annoying.
Nick VinZant 1:03:55
I could put on a really specific one. In the sense that God I just literally forgot what it was though saying what it is. Oh, I would put on okay. I would put on there the sound of your door closing half a second after you realize you left your car keys in the car. Yeah, that's to like, God. Dang it. Well, nowadays
John Shull 1:04:20
when you do that the vehicle makes a noise. It'll like beep at you that you left the keys in the car. Oh, I don't have that kind of car. Well, I know you drive uh, I don't know a danger Ranger or something. drive
Nick VinZant 1:04:33
across Subaru. Crosstrek absolute base model 22 grand, great car by the way.
John Shull 1:04:38
God, you're such a you're such an outdoorsy guy, a Toyota Highlander. How would you say Subaru? Crosstrek maybe? Yeah, same thing. So good
Nick VinZant 1:04:49
for you. Yeah, I can drive all over the place with that. Um, I don't appreciate I don't like the sound of a real car horn honk. Not like Hey Jimmy, car horn honk or like Uh, like I'm pissed off when somebody lays on it. car alarms, I generally hate the sound of car alarms
John Shull 1:05:07
more or less the old school ones. I mean nowadays once again, I don't think I've I've heard a new vehicle, a newer vehicle with an actual car alarm. I don't think I have. I don't
Nick VinZant 1:05:17
think anybody ever pays attention to him. No, even your own car alarm you're not running out there being like, what is it? What's going on over here? Okay, that's gonna go ahead and do it for this episode of Profoundly Pointless. I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance. Leave us a quick review doesn't have to be some big thing. Just a couple of quick words. It really helps out the show and let us know what you think are some of the worst car sounds. I can't stand loud noises. I hate loud exhaust and when somebody's just laying on that horn, but I really think that the worst car sound is just nothing at all. Let us know what you think though are some of the worst car sounds to hear