Nick Jonas, Michael Keaton, Rami Malek, her clients are some of the biggest names in movies and music. But what does it take to to keep leading men looking good. Go behind the scenes with Celebrity Groomer Marissa Machado. We talk breaking into the industry, working with celebrities and how to look your best. Then, it’s a fierce competition between water and the sky as we countdown the Top 5 Blue Things.
Marissa Machado: 02:03
Pointless: 38:18
Top 5: 58:02
Hollywood Groomer of the Year Vote (Closes February 10)
Celebrity Groomer Marissa Machado
Nick VinZant 0:11
Welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick VinZant Coming up in this episode looking like a celebrity, and the best blue things,
Marissa Machado 0:22
I just want them to look their best to where when they hit the stage, the carpet, whatever. Everyone's looking at him and just thinking, man, he looks good. I just did whatever I could to be part of it. Because I just thought one day, it'll be my big break, and it took about five years, you have to really love it because there are ups and downs. And when you're riding that wave really high, it is fantastic. But when you're in that, when you're riding that wave low, it can be really dark. And you have to remember those highs to keep yourself balanced for the lows. I think for a man to look good, you should do these things. These things are,
Nick VinZant 1:00
I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance to subscribe, leave us a rating or review we really appreciate it really helps us out. If you're a new listener, welcome to the show. If you're a longtime listener, thank you so much for all of your support. So our first guest specializes in getting Hollywood's leading men to look their best. Nick Jonas Michael Keaton, Remy Malick, her clients are a who's who have movies and music. But what I think is really interesting is not just the behind the scenes working of celebrity, but the tips that she has, that everybody else can use in their life to look their best. And her her story about persevering and figuring out what it is that you want to do. And just going after it, no matter what challenges are in your way. This is celebrity men's groomer Marissa Machado. When you started out, like did you specifically want to work with celebrities or was this kind of something that just happened?
Marissa Machado 2:09
I specifically set out to work with celebrities. I I grew up in Bakersfield, California, my family's all in agriculture. But my mother was an avid Entertainment Tonight, watcher and she made clothing. So she always had an eye for fashion. And that was something we enjoyed together. i From a young age loved. I would always cut my Barbies hair, cut my daughter's hair, which transpired into school dances of doing friends hair and makeup. You know, when I was in high school, young girls, we didn't hire makeup artists, there wasn't such thing. So we just did it ourselves. So I just became the girl that people would come to and I loved. I loved watching the red carpet. And I wanted to just I want it to be the reason why they looked so good. We didn't know anything about Hollywood. It's only an hour and a half away. But it's a vastly different world. So I didn't have those connections. And it was just sort of one step at a time as to how I was going to get to Hollywood and how I was going to get my foot in the door.
Nick VinZant 3:11
How difficult was it to kind of get your foot in the door. I mean, how competitive of an industry is this?
Marissa Machado 3:16
It's extremely competitive. And the difference is I moved here in 2003 I moved to Los Angeles in 2003. And when I started I was working at a makeup counter for Steelo cosmetics. I got that job. When I finished cosmetology school. My passion was more in makeup at the time, even though I always loved hair. So I got a job at the makeup counter. And when I went to work every day I would meet you know different people that were I don't know getting married or so you know, I started doing weddings. There was no such thing as social media. You couldn't I mean, there was no direct into these agents, photographers, other makeup artists to assist to get my foot in the door that way. So it was really about meeting people at the makeup counter. And I slowly you know, I started working in Barney's in Beverly Hills and I would go in there and work at the steel counter. And I would just meet different people and from there I met a makeup artist who led me to his agent and I started assisting and and then that got your foot in the door. But if you didn't come with any celebrities, they didn't want to take you so it was a real catch. 22 it was it was difficult. I took every single job that came my way whether there was money or not I assisted stylist and fashion. I assisted hairdressers, I assisted makeup artists. I just did whatever I could to be part of it. Because I just thought one day it'll be my big break. And it took about five years.
Nick VinZant 4:51
Is that normal? I guess for getting into the industry in terms of like that's how people usually get in. This is how it usually takes or would you say that you're kind of an aberration one way or another.
Marissa Machado 5:03
I think that's how it used to happen. I know now I have people direct messaged me saying, you know, I'd love to assist you, if you ever need an extra set of hands, I would have loved that opportunity to reach out to these people and say, Hey, I'm willing to work, you know, because I was. So I think I don't know what the appropriate time to break in is. I know, people that assisted a lot longer than me before they got their big break. I know people that are still doing the type of jobs I was doing when I was assisting and they're, they're completely happy. For me, I just, I just kept thinking there was there was, it was going to happen. And there there was going to be something more I don't know, I set. Like I said, from age 14, I said, this is what I was going to do. And it's like, there was just something in my mind that I knew I was going to do it. And I also had that thing in my mind that was like, I have to prove to everybody that I really did it.
Nick VinZant 5:57
Earlier this morning, interviewed someone who's a gold and motivation researcher, she's like, the most successful people are people with slight chips on their shoulder. Gotta have a slight chip and the sense that like, I'm gonna show him, show him I'm going to show them all.
Marissa Machado 6:14
Yeah, it was like family members, high school counselors, all those people, you know, I had to prove to them because when I went to my high school, college counseling meetings, and they asked me what I wanted to do, I told them, I was gonna go to Santa Barbara to do your city college and have a college experience. But I was gonna move to Hollywood. And I was going to do you know, hair and makeup for celebrities? And I said, I'm going to travel the world. And their response would say, well, you should have a backup plan, what's your backup plan? And I just said, there is no backup plan. This is what I will do. So yeah, I definitely had something to prove, I suppose. Good for you. Some clients take you everywhere around the world with them, you're their only person, some clients hire you, just when they're in LA, and then maybe they have their person in New York or you know, Europe or whatever. So but usually, once you're established with those clients, if they're around in town, and they have things going on, you're going to be that person, there's not going to be that sort of competition. However, yes, when you're starting out, it is. It's one of those things that it is not for the faint of heart. It's, it's not an easy job. You really don't. It's like, okay, I don't know how to explain this, you really don't get a lot of praise. And even if you do want a lot of praise, you're going to kind of have to find it within yourself. Because in the men's grooming world. We're not celebrated, I suppose as much as maybe hairdressers or makeup artists that are working with females, because we're celebrating the makeup, right? We're celebrating the look, the thing about a man grooming a man is that you want to just present them as a good looking man. Right? So it's not about what they have on it's, it's just, they should just walk in and look good. And nobody's asking what they have on or why they look so good. They just do. So you really don't, you really don't get that sort of shine. So you have to you have to find it within within yourself and which maybe isn't for everybody, but it works for me. It works for me, because I'm not somebody who likes to be center stage or any of those sorts of things.
Nick VinZant 8:27
I that makes sense, right? Like, I want to be on the winning team. But I don't care if I'm the player I get. Yeah. And it almost reminds me to continue this sports analogy of kind of like the kicker. If you make the kick, you are supposed to make the kick the whole time, right. Like you're only acknowledged if you've done something wrong, essentially.
Marissa Machado 8:44
You're right. You're right. Yeah.
Nick VinZant 8:47
How so? How is working with a celebrity different than like working with another high end client?
Marissa Machado 8:52
Yes, every job varies. And every salon celebrity varies, you know, and I think that one of the most important things about my job is understanding how to be around people not just being good at what you do. But understanding how to read people, maybe what mood they're in, just sort of feeling the energy in the room and understanding when it's when it's time to speak, when it's not time to speak how much you should be saying, you know, what kind of space are they in an understanding that also, maybe they're going out to do an appearance on let's say, Jimmy Fallon. And maybe it's one of their first big, you know, late night appearances. They might be in their head about it, they're nervous about it, you know, but you can't take that on and take it personally. You have to understand the space that they're in, and respect, respect that you know, so. And some celebrities, you know, maybe you're gonna go in and you know, that we're not going to speak it's going to be it's going to be 20 to 30 minutes, where I'm going to just do what I need to do work around them and then get in and get out. Other people. I'm going to walk in the door. They're going to ask me, How am I Family is what's been going on. You know, it's, it's, it's different between between everybody, but I do have a client that I work with often who is a CEO of a company. And he just, he likes to be groomed for his zoom meetings and such. And, yeah, that's just like, I don't know, that's just having a normal conversation with anyone, it kind of, it takes the pressure off. But at the same time, I want to do equally as good a job, you know, I want to make that man feel as important as if he were on the red carpet.
Nick VinZant 10:29
I know, this is kind of a super broad question, right? But say you're getting somebody ready for a red carpet event or to go on Jimmy Kimmel, or any of those kinds of things. Like what is that? What do you do? When do you show up? What's that process like?
Marissa Machado 10:42
Those are, I'll be honest, my favorite kind of days, my favorite day. I mean, this is just as I've gotten older, my favorite days are the days where you just the job is like a couple hours. And so I get to have like my morning to myself on those kind of days. They don't, as you said, Jimmy Kimmel. So when I'm doing Jimmy Kimmel, I have the whole morning to myself, then I get all my stuff ready, which is my kit, which is basically like a 40 pound suitcase. It's a carry on sized suitcase that has everything that I know I need for that person. Plus anything that could just possibly come up that you you need, because Murphy's Law, like I always have a client asked me for that one thing that I just don't have, or I just took out of my kit for some reason. So you want to make sure you have everything. And then I arrive usually around 3pm 3:30pm 30 minutes before the client, I get there. And I get set up, which I'm, as you mentioned, in the beginning, you have an OCD brain. I do too, I like my setup to be very clean and very specific in the sense of, I'm only putting out what's necessary, I don't like to be veered off track for any reason. So everything is laid out in a specific order of use. And it varies per person, what products those will be, from face products to hair products. And then usually the client will get there, you know, the publicist greets them, they come in, they say hello to everybody, they get a little briefing, and then they sit down with me. So that's where I mentioned earlier, that's that time where I've had a few moments to sort of read their energy and where they are as to how that session between us is going to go if we're going to chit chat about whatever they're promoting, you know, but for the most part, they sit down and if anything's changed within within the way they look, I'll ask, you know, what are you using in your hair? Now maybe I haven't seen them for a couple of months, and the hairstyle is different. And I'll say, Oh, what are you using in your hair now something along those lines or anything different you want me to do. But for the most part, I just do my thing. Because as I say, at this point, I have a group of men that I work with. So that is sort of the luxury of them hiring him is hiring me is that I don't have to ask them questions or say anything I already know what to do. It's this, this very, you know, it's a dance, it's I kind of do my thing. I finish them up, I at the end of my grooming, I always hand them their chapstick as I hand them their chapstick that I take off the cape, and then they're off to the stylist and then they get dressed. And right before they go on, I like to do a last look, check them out, you know, and then they're off to the show. And after that, that's really all you can do. Some shows like The James Corden show, The Late Late Show, some shows have segments where you can actually go out in the commercial break and adjust. But some of the shows if they're just on for one segment, you know, it's like, once they're out there, they're out there. So then you just then as they're out there, I watch them on the monitor, I enjoy what they say. I always listen because I know they're gonna come back and maybe want feedback on how they did. As I pack up my stuff, then they come back we all laugh about or talk about the appearance. And then I'm back home, back to cook dinner, whatever it is,
Nick VinZant 13:57
when you're dealing with kind of celebrity clients, like how nitpicky slash whatever word you want to use, do you have to be in the sense of like, look, that left? Hey, there's a hair on my left ear that was out of place? Like are you checking every single thing that's got to be imperfect position? Or is it kind of like, Alright, you're good to go.
Marissa Machado 14:15
When they're in my chair, I'm checking every single thing. But then there's gonna, and we're talking men, right? So like, I would think that women are more particular more careful, more worried about it, like, I could finish grooming a guy and he could be like, You know what, I have a little bit of downtime. I'm just going to go do a quick workout. And I could stress about it. I think everything I just did is I'm gonna have to redo it. Or I just have to say like, this is what it is. He's a guy he wants to get those push ups in or whatever, I get it, you know, so or they're gonna go change and just pull their shirt over their head and not even think about it, you know? But once they're on set, I become their mirror because they can't see themselves. So then I have to I have to seek for them. So yes, that's okay. If the cameras just face to face with somebody and I saw hair out of place in the back of their head that nobody else is going to see, I'm not going to jump in and ruin their flow of whatever it is to fix this one hair, I'm going to look from the camera angle and see what everybody's seeing. And then worry about that. Because I don't like to, I don't like to step in for touch ups unless it's necessary, because I think it just breaks the flow of everything, and it slows down production. So I like to make sure that they're good when they're go out, I like to take a look at the camera, from what I'm seeing, make sure that everything's in place, and then only have to step in accordingly. But if I have a guy with long hair, which I do have guys with longer hair, and they're moving around, I'm gonna have to go in more often, because there's going to be hair falling in the face covering an eye creating a shadow, whatever, whatever it may be. So yeah, it's delicate.
Nick VinZant 15:55
Are you ready for some harder slash listener submitted questions? Sure. Do you have the juice? And I think what they mean by that is like, they're not asking you to share the juice. But do you generally have the juice?
Marissa Machado 16:06
Oh, like the juice doesn't like the gossip? Like the gossip, I
Nick VinZant 16:10
think is what they mean. Yeah,
Marissa Machado 16:12
I do hear a lot. And I think that the reason that I've been able to keep my job is because I don't repeat the juice. It's one of those things, you kind of just put it in the vault, you know it, and then you see different things on social media or on TV or in magazines said about people. And you just think they've got it all wrong, or Oh, my God, they've got it totally right. But you can't ever say anything, because you won't work. You won't work.
Nick VinZant 16:40
Yeah, that's a pretty fast way to burn your reputation, which is why I think they didn't ask any specifics more just like do you?
Marissa Machado 16:46
I do?
Nick VinZant 16:48
I would imagine so right? There's something about sitting in that chair, where you just like, you start to open up to people a little bit, or you hear things. Yeah. And
Marissa Machado 16:57
you also you overhear conversations around you. And for the most part, I like to leave the room when I know that it's conversation that I shouldn't be hearing, because I don't even want to be placed in the situation of well, Marissa hurt that or Marissa was around when that was said, it's like, if I'm not part of this, I'm just going to excuse myself, because I don't actually want to be part of it.
Nick VinZant 17:19
How much are you really doing? And they mean this in a nice way, in the sense that like, are these fundamentally good looking people in the beginning? Like are you turning sevens into nines are you turned in like threes and eights,
Marissa Machado 17:31
you can certainly take a look at my work. I work with men from you know, their 20s to their 70s. So, as far as fundable fundamentally good looking, I guess that depends on your scale, have a good looking as I find them all attractive, I think they're all good looking men. Okay, I don't really think I'm turning anyone in from like a low number to a high number. My goal always is to walk in and make that man be the best version of himself. Because everybody's scale of what good looking is going to be different. So everyone's scale of a number is going to be different. But I just want them to look their best to where when they hit the stage, the carpet, whatever. Everyone's looking at him and just thinking, man, he looks good. Whoever it is.
Nick VinZant 18:18
Would you say that there's a commonality, though, in the sense of like getting a man to look good. You should do these things.
Marissa Machado 18:25
Yes. I think for a man to look good, you should do these things. These things are checking your ears, making sure you don't have your hair growing, checking your nose, making sure you don't have wild nose hair. Your facial hair thinking about the structure of your face and how that facial hair is actually changing your face structure. Is it making your face look fuller wider? Is it Do you have a beard that's bringing your face down? All these type of things, I think make the difference in a man and my number one thing and a guy that like when I'm on the street or anywhere that I just can't help but notice is how many men let their neck lines just overgrow and never clean it up. And I just think it's one of those things in life. If you have a significant other, they could really help a guy out by doing that whoever that is even a family member, whatever, who if you have someone around you, it's like so many men just let that neckline overgrowth straight into their back and it just crushes my eyes.
Nick VinZant 19:26
Yeah, I would imagine that makes your eyes twitch. But can you Okay, can you go like walk down the street without just being like, oh, you know if you did this if you did that. Do you find yourself constantly judging people's hair?
Marissa Machado 19:39
No. Okay, I only I typically only judge people or look at them in that way if they asked me to because you know, it's one of when you when I was younger and I wanted to do makeup, right? It was fun to play makeup. But as I'm older and this is my job. When I'm not in my job, I try not to be in my job. Have any more, even though it's a fun job, and I love it, when I'm not doing it, I'm not thinking it necessarily. So I'm not always walking down the street thinking, oh blah, blah, blah. Now if somebody showed me a picture of a guy, right? Oh, this is so and so or oh, I'm dating him or whatever, then I'm going to look at that man. And think to myself, Oh, if he just did this, or if he grew his hair this way, whatever. I do think those things for sure.
Nick VinZant 20:26
Do most people have a generally right are kind of generally wrong.
Marissa Machado 20:30
I think that I mean, again, it's Where are you living? I live in Los Angeles. So I think that most people generally have it right in the sense that we are a little consumed with how we look in, in Los Angeles, we do live in this world of Hollywood and celebrity and plastic surgery and fitness and all of those things. So I think that people here genuinely, genuinely, you know, do have it right. I think I don't want to name a state. But I think if I go to somewhere in middle America, I'm going to say Not really. Also even when I go to my hometown, when I went to Bakersfield recently like my, my dad started going to my my brother's barber because his hairdresser retired. He had an old school hairdresser that I used to watch in the salon as a little girl. And you know, he's older, he retired and he used to cut my dad's hair scissor over comb this beautiful hair cut. And now my dad's go into this Barber. And though the guy's a great Barber, he's cutting my dad's hair, like he's cutting my brother's hair. And my dad doesn't need high and tight. You know, he's, he's 70 years old. So, you know, it's where are you as to how they're getting it.
Nick VinZant 21:44
As a person from Kansas, I can say I understand. You can sometimes go back in time a little bit. Um, what celebrity do you ultimately think has the best haircut?
Marissa Machado 21:57
Okay, I'm gonna say this. There's one celebrity that I think always has it right, as far as haircuts. And it's not one specific haircut. It's many. And that's Brad Pitt. I think that Brad Pitt is ever changing his hairstyles, and they're always right. We always love them along the way. You can ask any person about Brad Pitt, and they're going to name a time when they loved Brad Pitt. And it's going to be a different look from the time that the other person loved Brad Pitt. So it's like, even with all these different haircuts and hairstyles, he's always getting it right.
Nick VinZant 22:31
I completely agree. Like I'm married with two children, I would completely agree like Brad Pitt always has good hair, like it looks no matter what he does, it always looks like yeah, he never looks bad in any haircut. And you can't say that about a lot of people.
Marissa Machado 22:48
Not a lot of people the other person. So the reason I bring up bring up Brad Pitt is because whenever I have clients that will start discussing like a new look. And it's more on the music side of things that I feel like people go for new looks more my music clients. I think it's just you have more freedom to have new looks versus actors, because they're playing characters. So I always love to reference Brad Pitt, because we've had so many different looks along the way. And the other one that I reference a lot is David Beckham because David Beckham is another man who has had so many looks along the way. And though I might not think they're all right, I think that we could go through and again, people are gonna, at some point, love all of them. But I like I like men that can change up their look. And people, people all people in general are still attracted to it.
Nick VinZant 23:37
What is your favorite trend haircut? What is your least favorite trend haircut and we can go all time,
Marissa Machado 23:44
most recently, the one that I could not wait to end was the super faded sides. I was just so tired of seeing every guy with the same look just that really, really faded, like almost almost, you know, on a zero, you know, like, just at the scalp, you know, and then rising up above the ear and then the top kind of just being messy. I was I was just so tired of seeing it. I missed it the days of Nick Minh, who's Nick of men having natural necklines, and so I I'm liking seeing more of that kind of come about I think that we're having more length on men's hair and you're seeing actors like Bruce just most recently hitting the carpet so often like Austin Butler, you know who just finished this whole Elvis campaign his longer hair I just didn't we've got Timothy Chanel Chanel, I
Nick VinZant 24:39
can never say his I can never do that when he I think it's like anyway, he's got the long
Marissa Machado 24:43
curls and I I'm really enjoying that we're seeing longer hair come about one I know I mentioned another style that I want to go away but actually this just came to me the one style that I really really want to go away currently that hasn't gone away is this tick tock hairstyle that all the young boys have. And it's all shaved up on the sides. And then the top kind of swoops forward and then back. It's like it comes forward sweeps back and then it kind of flips up all around the edges. And all the tick tock, guys like the Tick Tock stars have this haircut, leading my nieces in high school, and every single boy has the same hairstyle. And I just, I can't understand it. Because when I was in school, the guys didn't have the same hairstyle. Everybody kind of had their own thing, which could have just been more like yours like crew cut style, but it wasn't like a specific look that everyone had to have at the same time.
Nick VinZant 25:41
For I remember it was called the standard boys haircut, which is like what I have and what most people that I grew up with men my age all have the standard boys haircut. Right? It wasn't a style. It was just like, right kid's hair cut. And that's how you cut it. Yes.
Marissa Machado 25:54
Yes, exactly. There's sort of a lack of individuality right now that I see in this in a younger generation and, and everyone wanting to they they find one celebrity or one person that they idolize, and then everyone tries to tries to look that exact way. It's like I just, you know, I think it's better when people go with what, what they feel, you know, that they want to do or what they think looks best on them, but not based on because somebody else did it.
Nick VinZant 26:24
What should I do about back hair.
Marissa Machado 26:27
Okay, couple options. I'm assuming this is a man. But if it's not, even if it's a woman, you could do the same thing. A quick fix is to always just shave it. I know that can become a process if you don't have somebody to help you because you can't get back there. The second option is to get it waxed, you could once a month go into your waxer. And you know, the thing about waxing is it doesn't grow, you know, eventually over time the hair will die, it gets tired of being ripped out of the skin. So it will die over time and you will get lesser hair, it's not going to go away permanently, it's going to be something you have to continue to do. The permanent option is laser. There are a couple of things with laser though. It works best on people with light skin, but dark hair, because it has to pick up on the skin. So it's like if you had light skin Bud Light hair, the laser isn't going to pick up the hair follicle. So the darker the hair, the better it is, but the skin needs to be lighter. So it's one of those things that you want to do when you're out of the sun. Maybe in the winter. You're not. Yeah, we should all be out of the sun at this point, but we're not. And so it's those type of things. It doesn't always work on people with darker skin as well. They might have to go through more sessions also. The skin can scar you know, so it's there's pros and cons to all of those. I'll be honest,
Nick VinZant 27:50
bowl cut, man bun, or what's the Mohawk? Oh no, the mullet that's what they that that's what they Oh, they literally just put bowl cut man bun or mullet.
Marissa Machado 28:04
If I'm gonna pick a favorite out of those three. I'm gonna go with the mullet. And I know that sounds ridiculous. But a mullet could either look really trashy, or it could also look really cool. Just depending on how you style them all. I have a client that I've worked with for like 10 years now his name is Travis femoral and he was on the show Vikings, which he had these crazy haircuts and braids and stuff. And one night he had a premiere and right before the premiere. He took my face trimmer because he also has this long beard. He took my face drummer and he just kind of went up the side of his head, thinking it was funny right before his prayers like, oh shit, you know, so I kind of just had to roll with it. And I ended up shaving the sides into this kind of cool mullet. And then I don't know it just it really worked on him. It looked really cool. I've also seen a revival of mullets and the last few months to be honest, like even like some reality people and different people going for this look. I saw a stylist the other day kind of growing his back out a little bit but keeping you know, so I think a mole it could be cool. I think a bowl cut just takes me back to my childhood. My brother had a bowl cut for a while. And it was very cute in the late 80s, early 90s. Bullet mold cut and man bun man bun. You got to be a real man. I don't know. That's like, I think it only works on types like Jason Momoa. If that makes sense. Yeah,
Nick VinZant 29:34
you've got to be like six five to 15 It'd
Marissa Machado 29:37
be like grizzly. You know what I mean? Like, you got to have some grit to you. Because otherwise you go too pretty. And then it's not my thing.
Nick VinZant 29:48
That's what it is. That's what annoyed me about that trend. People went pretty with it and it didn't work like you've got to be I just finished chopping down lumber and fighting off a bear and Yes, and I feel like that works. Yeah. Yeah.
Marissa Machado 30:03
My hair was like so sweaty that I just had to throw it back in this messy bod. You know, right.
Nick VinZant 30:09
Like, I had to pull that child from the river and this hair was way so I put it in a bond, they just can't be wet. Yeah. What's trendy? Like what trends do you kind of see common?
Marissa Machado 30:20
The the more natural hair lines coming back sort of more of a 90s effort? Like think like, I know this is gonna sound so boring. But like the the Richard Gere types of the 90s Right, the Dennis Quaid types of the 90s, sort of just these more gentleman's haircuts, not the super shape sides. But I just think we're going to start seeing more length all around. And yeah, I just more length all around not, I think that the barber shops were really, really busy for a while. And that was a specific look. And I think we're kind of we're going back to a scissor haircut.
Nick VinZant 31:00
So you were nominated for Hollywood Beauty Awards groomer of the year, when did you find out? What was that kind of like?
Marissa Machado 31:07
I found out, I guess, just about a month ago, I found out that I was that I was being nominated. And I'll be honest, my first reaction is to think Thank you, my, my real reaction is to think that's not really something I want to participate in. Because as I mentioned, at the very beginning of this, I don't like a lot of attention, but I like to win. So it's a lose lose, in my opinion, it's one of those things that I would hate to lose. But I don't want the attention if I win. So I think it's a real honor. It's it's very nice of my peers or, you know, people to recognize me. For my work. I think it's it's really nice. But again, I'm just so uncomfortable in talking about myself in that way. It's one thing to answer questions when you ask me questions. Yeah. Yeah, I have. It's really nice. It's an honor. It is an honor.
Nick VinZant 32:07
Congratulations. I think it's great. Yeah.
Marissa Machado 32:10
Thank you. Because I'm like getting red.
Nick VinZant 32:14
Men are men easier? Are they harder?
Marissa Machado 32:17
This is a common question. And it's not easier as far as the job goes. Because there are some difficult men, there are some really particular men. And I always say it's easier for me because I have two brothers, I was raised around a lot of men. And I don't know, I think I'm a bit of a tomboy. I think that I can relate to them in a way and understand I don't know, I understand the process with them. I'm not somebody who looks in the mirror all the time and is obsessed with how I look. So therefore I don't become obsessed with the way other people look to where I get really nitpicky on their face. And I feel that's more the way women go. So it just, it works for me, because it's like you do the job. You have a nice bond. You tell them they look handsome, and then they feel good about their day. You know, just like most men in general, not one specific man. But most men, you know,
Nick VinZant 33:09
we're a lot easier, right? Like, I can speak for me specifically, as long as my hair is still there. I'm not gonna say anything bad about it. Like,
Marissa Machado 33:17
honestly, that is the number one concern, I will tell you with men and hair is losing it and it thinning. And I always anybody that always anybody that ever makes a joke about a man's hair thinning or losing their hair. I'm always like, no, no, that's off bound. Like that's out of bounds. Because I think that is men's number one insecurity is losing their hair. And it's a sensitive topic. So I really I don't joke about it. But yeah, that is very, something that's very common.
Nick VinZant 33:47
You can always tell when a guy starts wearing hats and a lot of at like, Oh, he's noticed it's going
Marissa Machado 33:52
or they start styling the hair where it kind of goes forward a little bit on the sides, you know?
Nick VinZant 33:57
Yeah. Is there anything that meant like, you're going bald? Well, it's time to get it over with like, what should men do in those last days before?
Marissa Machado 34:07
Yeah, I think that if you've gotten to the place where you're just holding on to the few strands, then you've basically been going about your life being bald anyway. Right? So you might as well just shave it. But I think that if you're especially like in your early 20s, and you're starting to notice your hair thinning, and you have the financial means, I think that you should absolutely look into getting hair transplants because they've come an incredibly long way to where people are growing back full heads of hair, and if you do it early on before it gets really bad and noticeable. You can really change the trajectory of what your hair is going to be like in your 40s and 50s. So I think that if you're looking around your family and you're noticing maybe your your mom's dad is bald, you know, and maybe your hairline is starting to recede in that way. And and you have the financial means It's definitely something to look into. Because I've, I've had some incredible results on on people that I know that I've recommended a doctor to in LA. And you would never know ever know. So that's the route I would go. But if you're already going around, basically bald with your couple hairs on the top that you're pulling over, yeah, just shave it.
Nick VinZant 35:21
Can you say which of your clients has the best hair? Not hair cut, but like, oh, they have the nicest hair? Probably? Like that's the easiest one to work with.
Marissa Machado 35:33
Okay, interesting question. Because the best hair doesn't necessarily mean the easiest to work with. I, gosh, it's so hard to say I'm I have somehow fallen into this world of curly haired clients. It's like I started with the Jonas Brothers. And then from there, people would say, Oh, she's good with curls. So I have a lot of clients that have a lot of curly, nice hair. But I do think I think that Joe Jonas has really beautiful hair that's really easy to style. He's one of those clients that his hair is ever changing, we always kind of go back and bounce ideas off each other for the next look, or the next thing or where he wants it to go. And it's always really fun. And he's his hair. He's got the kind of hair that will do whatever I want. However, I want it to look, it's going to do that. So he I would say, yeah, he could. There's other ones, but I can go with that one easily.
Nick VinZant 36:31
That makes sense. Um, last question for me, what would advice would you give to the next you somebody coming into the business?
Marissa Machado 36:41
I joke with my niece, I tell her, she should come down and she's got my same last name come take over. But the next me? Well, I'm just gonna give the advice that Catherine gave me. And the advice is that you never know who's in the room and who's listening. So everything you say can be repeated. You never want to get yourself into a situation where you're talking too much. So it's it's knowing your place, it's knowing how to be in the room, it's reading the room understanding when to be and where, and why. You know, it's it's knowing how it's being good at your job, but also being really good at reading people. I would say that, you know, it is a struggle. Like I said before, it's not for the faint of heart, you have to really want it, it has to be your dream. This can't just be something that you think, Oh, that looks fun, I'll go do that. You have to really love it. Because there are ups and downs. And when you're riding that wave really high, it is fantastic. But when you're in that when you're riding that wave low, it can be really dark. And you have to remember those highs to keep yourself balanced for the lows.