As an Aquaphiliac Raven Lynette loves the water. But this isn't about just swimming around.
In this episode of Profoundly Pointless we explore Aquaphilia. We talk why people are attracted to water, the kinds of things Aquaphiliacs like to do in the water and her most interesting requests.
00:00 Introducing Raven Lynette
01;06 What is Aquaphilia
03:08 What Aquaphiliacs are Looking For
05:26 When Water is Sexy
08:20 Why the Type of Water Matters
09:41 How Popular is Aquaphilia
12:20 Aquaphilia and Mermaids
14:28 Most Interesting Requests
16:52 Pointless
37:01 Candle of the Month
42:22 The Top 5 Batteries
Interview with Aquaphiliac Raven Lynette
Nick VinZant 0:01
Nick, welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick Vinzant. Coming up in this episode, aquaphilia and batteries.
Speaker 1 0:21
Sometimes they just want to see me hold my breath, like they don't want any kind of like danger element or anything traditionally sexual happening. Yeah, I had one request where that was the main point of the video, was being in the open ocean with a current that would carry away my clothes. It was a peril clip, so I was a, I was diving for treasure, and there's a giant snake guarding the treasure that attacks me and tries to drown me.
Nick VinZant 0:50
I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance, give us a rating or a review, we really appreciate it, really helps out the show. So, I want to get right to our first guest. This is Aquaphiliac Raven Lynette. So, what is aquaphilia?
Speaker 1 1:07
For some people, it is just like being wet, feeling the water. For others, it's a breath play thing. For me, I just.. I've always loved the water. I love diving. I love being in the ocean. I love anything to do with the water.
Nick VinZant 1:21
When did you discover this about yourself?
Speaker 1 1:24
I saw a photo of underwater photography in a gallery, and I thought it was just like the most beautiful thing, like it looked like a painting, but it was photo that's kind of like the unique properties of waters, it can make something look really painterly and dreamlike. And then I had also been doing Only Fans, and I also got into doing rope work, like Shibari and bondage, and I really loved that, and I think I kind of loved certain aspects of that kind of overlapped with the sensation of being underwater, like the lack of control and the sensory deprivation, and so one day I just had this crazy idea, like I love bondage, and I love being underwater, so why don't I do bondage underwater? And then someone reached out and asked if I would shoot a custom video for them, of me pretending to almost drown, and I did, and then that kind of just like it took off. I started to get like a lot of requests to do drowning videos or different perilous situations underwater.
Nick VinZant 2:36
For the requests that you get in that regard, is it about the water for those, or is it more about the situation that somebody is in danger, however you want to phrase that.
Speaker 1 2:48
I think it's both. I think so, like in the fetish world, damsel in distress or peril are both really popular fetishes, and I think being underwater adds a whole other element of extra danger, because you don't have to be tied up underwater for it to still be dangerous.
Nick VinZant 3:08
So, when I watch more mainstream stuff, right, like there's certain things that I am looking for, like I'm looking for that in the things that I watch, are there things that people in this genre that they're looking for that,
Speaker 1 3:24
yeah. So, sometimes I will just get requests for breath hold videos, specifically the underwater ones. Sometimes they just want to see me hold my breath, like they don't want any kind of like danger element or anything traditionally sexual happening, sometimes they just want to watch me sit there, about framed up, about like this, just holding my breath underwater, and with those ones I also like to see the contractions, so when you're holding your breath for an extended period of time, once you get past the initial urge to breathe, so like the average person holds their breath for maybe 30 seconds, 30 to 50 seconds will get the urge to breathe, and they'll breathe. If you push past that point, your diaphragm starts to involuntarily contract, trying to force your body to breathe, and you can actually see that, like, on your stomach, and so some of those videos were just a breath-holding video, they want to see, like, they want to see the contractions happening, there's other people that specifically like the peril and the danger, the struggling and the screaming and the panic, like the panic underwater and I some of those I feel I think a lot of those like stem from like movies that they saw or I know a couple who have had like real life near drowning experiences and they don't even like being in the water but watching it is exciting or. Or it could even be a form of therapy, like exposure therapy, maybe, and then other things that people like underwater, they like the long hair flowing, they like a mermaid thing, that's a whole sub genre, mermaids, bikinis, like bikinis, people like wetsuits, people like the look of a dive mask, the way it changed your face.
Nick VinZant 5:26
I get the idea of it. I guess the thing that I don't quite understand is, like, but what about the water is sexual?
Speaker 1 5:33
I don't think it's water itself that's sexual. I think it's the effect it has on the body, specifically. with breath holding, I mean, and like just tactile, like the feel like you feel weightless and luxurious and sensual underwater, like I mean, like taking a warm bath can be a sensual experience, going for skinny dipping can be essential, like sensory experience, but I think it's, it's flies in mostly to the lack of oxygen and the breath holding aspect.
Nick VinZant 6:10
Would you say are there other kink slash fetishes slash whatever that go along with it that are outside of the water, like, oh, if they're gonna like this, they're gonna probably also like this, that is not related to water
Speaker 1 6:26
spandex swimsuit fetish. I mean, I've done videos where I'm just laying in my bed and dive gear, not in the water, but I'm wearing all the underwater gear, Carol damsel in distress, you know, various aspects of BDSM, the whole like power dynamic and control, and giving up control. But I think probably the most closely related would be breath play.
Nick VinZant 6:55
Have you ever had an incident that's like, well, I shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 1 6:59
I did do a self bondage underwater, where I was chained to a like 50 pound dumbbell, bottom of the pool, and I don't do it by myself. Whenever I'm filming underwater, like disclaimer, like I have someone there at safety, because it only takes one mistake to die, so I don't want to do that, so but I did have a scare where I couldn't. I tried to make it like quick release the chain, and so it was cuffed, I was chained, cuffed my ankles are cuffed together, and I was like a couple inches right below the surface, where I couldn't, you know, breathe, and I went down to unhook my chain, and it like got stuck, but I used like a cheap, like thin chain with like a cheap latch, and I was able to just like yank it and and break it, and also I was close enough to the surface where if I gave like one big like push I could get my mouth out of the water to breathe if I had to, but there was that like moment of panic, like, oh shit, like this isn't coming undone as easily as it could, and I need breathe now, but it was totally fine.
Nick VinZant 8:15
Are you ready for some harder slash listener submitted questions?
Speaker 1 8:18
Yeah,
Nick VinZant 8:20
does the type of water matter? Are people more interested in, like, a pool versus a stream, or a lake versus a brook, a river? I could go on with all the various bodies of water, if you want me to.
Speaker 1 8:33
I think probably, realistically, like logistically, it's hard to get anything in a natural body of water,
Nick VinZant 8:44
they want it, but this logistically you can't really do it.
Speaker 1 8:48
Yeah, so I had, like, my, for example, one of my favorite custom videos I did, actually, it was a scene was I was a free diver diving for treasure in, like, a lagoon or something, or the ocean, and just like logistically with all the props I would need, and trying to team up with, you know, someone to film me and someone to be safety. Just doing it in a pool made more sense.
Nick VinZant 9:17
Have you ever had somebody that the body of water really mattered to them, like, no, no, that's an inland sea, and I was looking for a fjord, or whatever, like, I don't, that's
Speaker 1 9:31
yeah, I had one request where that was the main point of the video, was being in the open ocean with a current that would carry away my clothes,
Nick VinZant 9:41
how popular would you say this
Speaker 1 9:44
is? It's definitely one of the smaller, like lesser-known fetishes. I would say it's probably getting a little bit more popular, but it's definitely a small niche.
Nick VinZant 9:56
What is mask off, mask on,
Speaker 1 9:58
so like a. A popular drill in diving, free diving, or scuba diving is filling and purging your mask, so if your mask fills with water, you don't panic, you know how to like purge it. So I've done videos where I do that, like I'm wearing my mask and I let water in, let it fill with water, and then I put it back on, and then I blow air out of my nose till it, the water goes out. People like that, and also, yeah, starting with the mask on, so you have that like comfortability and safety of the mask, and then taking it off underwater. I've done that. Some people just specifically like the look of a dive mask, and they want mask on the whole time, and while other people like the look of no dive masks, and they, or they know the feeling, the sensations of being underwater without a mask, and like, how uncomfortable that can be, so they prefer that.
Nick VinZant 10:59
Is it ever in again, I'll use this word, I don't mean this word, but is it? Does it ever go into kind of the more normal stuff? Like, I just want to see somebody do their thing in a hot tub.
Speaker 1 11:10
Oh yeah, for sure. My most popular selling video is just like normal boy, girl, you know, horn, just in, in the water, underwater.
Nick VinZant 11:20
Yeah, that's the thing, is like logistically that seems kind of difficult, like you're both going to be underwater, that's the part of me, like, how do you do this logistically? Yeah, you just go down for like 1015, seconds, pop back up, go back down, pop back up, like that seems like a lot of work.
Speaker 1 11:37
It is a lot of work, and it is a lot of up and down, and so filming it, I am kind of like, I don't want to like make any like my fans sad or whatever, but I, it is, it is kind of like a okay, like, okay, ready, we're gonna go under, I'm gonna eat your pussy, and then we're gonna come up and and breathe really quick, and it's very like there's a lot of talking that it's not like a genuine feverish like thing happening organically,
Nick VinZant 12:06
right? Because you can't like the thing that I would think of is it's two people just kind of going at it,
Speaker 1 12:11
yeah,
Nick VinZant 12:11
but then you got to take a break, get some air,
Speaker 1 12:15
a lot of timing involved, unless you're on scuba, then you can just go at
Nick VinZant 12:20
it. Is mermaids part of this, or is this a whole.. oh, that's no, that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 1 12:26
Um, mermaids are part of it, but they're also their own thing.
Nick VinZant 12:30
What's the appeal of the mermaid? That's just
Speaker 1 12:33
the mysticalness. The mermaids, I mean, I've done both, so like mermaids are often like, like the siren dragging sailors to their doom, kind of thing. So, there's that aspect, and there's also like capturing a mermaid. So, I've done a few videos where I'm a captured, like, captive mermaid.
Nick VinZant 12:58
What is your most common request?
Speaker 1 13:01
Drowning, usually. usually
Nick VinZant 13:03
do they want it just to go like right up to the limit or no? They want you to act like you have drowned, because to me those are two different, like that's a little different. Yeah,
Speaker 1 13:17
yeah, I definitely have like I've had questions about these types of fetishes, because there's also like death fetish, like that's a thing that's not allowed to be sold in on most platforms, but it is a thing, and I've done some, like on dry land, where after I was done, I was like, I feel weird about that, but the drowning ones specifically, I don't know if it's just because I just like playing in the water, so I'll do anything in the water, but they doesn't like unsettle me as much as just normal death better stuff does, and I think it's also because the people that have asked me to do these drowning videos, they're not like, oh, I really want to see the light drain from your eyes, and I want to see you suffer.
Nick VinZant 14:06
They're not super strange about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1 14:08
they're it's more like they're putting them themselves in my shoes, like they're imagining that that that it's that they're the one drowning, or almost drowning.
Nick VinZant 14:19
That makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 14:21
Yeah,
Nick VinZant 14:21
right. Like, they're not thinking of you doing this, they're thinking of themselves doing this.
Speaker 1 14:26
Yeah, or, or doing it with me.
Nick VinZant 14:28
Your most interesting one, like one that you're like, "Oh, that is.. I have not gotten
Speaker 1 14:33
that before. The one I mentioned earlier, the free diver diving for treasure, part of that video was it was a peril clip, so I was a, I was diving for treasure, and there's a giant snake guarding the treasure that attacks me and tries to drown me. That was the first time I'd ever gotten anything like that, and I haven't gotten anything like that since. That was, yeah, super fun. So it had a giant toy. Snake that I attached fishing line to, and dragged it around the pool, and wrapped it around me, and like I'm wrestling it, and it's trying to drag me to my doom, but I survived that one, I escaped that one, a lot of, a lot of the drowning ones I end up drowning, but they're more like a, it's like more of a like letting go, like surrendering to to the pleasure, like you're so lost in pleasure you just lose all control and forget to breathe.
Nick VinZant 15:34
Yeah, that to me, I get that right, like that's completely different than like ending, ending, that's more just like I have accepted the circumstances.
Speaker 1 15:41
Yeah, yeah.
Nick VinZant 15:43
What's kind of the next evolution of it? Do you see it going somewhere else?
Speaker 1 15:47
Um, like, there are, you know, like dungeons and like sex clubs and sex parties and things like that, where you can do stuff in real life. Um, it'd be interesting to see, like, an underwater version of that done safely,
Nick VinZant 16:03
that's all the questions that I have. Is there anything you think that we missed?
Speaker 1 16:06
Or I did kind of want to touch on like the whole peril and fear and like danger of it all. I like to kind of compare it to like enjoying horror movies and roller coasters like sometimes being scared is fun, but like pleasure centers and fear centers of the brain are very intermingled, very close together, and so I think that's where kind of a lot of it stems from, especially like all the drowning stuff.
Nick VinZant 16:36
I want to thank Raven so much for joining us. If you want to connect with her, we have linked to her on our social media sites. We're Profoundly Pointless on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube, and we've also included her information in the episode description. Okay, now let's bring in John Scholl and get to the pointless part of the show. On a scale of one to 10, how good of a cook do you think that you are?
John Shull 17:03
Eight. Oh, I'd say an eight. I mean, I can spice it up if needed, or I can go basic and make macaroni and cheese. Like, what? What makes you know an average person a good chef? I think it's being able to do everything.
Nick VinZant 17:18
This goes into my thing that I think people vastly overestimate how good or bad they are at something, because I polled the audience about this: 10% of people said between one and 330, 5% of people said between four and six, 40% of people said six to eight, and 15% of people said eight to 10 in terms of how good they were at cooking, so I think that people vastly overestimate how good or how bad they are at something. So, you think you're an eight, I would say you're probably a six.
John Shull 17:56
I think most people, I wouldn't say eight to 10, like that's upper echelon, like that's that's definitely a little overbearing, but I think most people are within the four to eight range, probably. I mean,
Nick VinZant 18:09
I would say most people are probably in the four to six range. Like, if you have, if you're an eight, if you're a legitimate eight, you should have a restaurant. That's the way that I look at it like to be an eight or a nine or a 10, because okay, think about it like this. This is the way that I look at it, like if you're an eight in sports, you're probably playing high level college basketball, like a nine is a pro and a 10 is a generational talent in terms of that. So, if you're an eight, what is the college high-level college basketball equivalent of cooking? That would be owning your own restaurant.
John Shull 18:48
I do agree with that. My other, my counter argument to what you just said, though, would be that just because you don't make it to the pros doesn't mean you're not a pro. I mean, how many chefs out there should have their own restaurant? They just don't, for whatever, whatever reason. I mean, that would be working.
Nick VinZant 19:06
I get where you're going, and I would agree with you if you're looking at people who are in the eights, but if you're somebody who cooks at a 10 level, you are doing that professionally, like people have pushed you out there and encouraged you, or made the circumstances possible, where you are doing that, so I think if you're really, really, really good at something, you end up doing that at a very high level professionally. Otherwise, you're just not really that good.
John Shull 19:35
I understand. I don't know if I agree with that thought on that, but I don't think I don't think average people are nines or 10s, eights pushing it. I'm not saying that I'm up there eight wise, but in my mind I think I'm an eight, because I can cook a wide variety of foods, I can cook them fast if I need to, and they're. Delicious, but and I have an honest, all you know, I have an honest wife who lets me know when something's crap, so I have a pretty good balance in my life. At least,
Nick VinZant 20:13
my concern is that what seems to be the only thing that you're cooking is your face. Can we talk about why you're not wearing sunscreen and spending endless hours outside,
John Shull 20:24
I don't know how to tell. I mean, that's that's what it is, man. I've, yeah, I've been outside. I'm probably outside more than I am inside on most days now. I mean, during the sun, of course.
Nick VinZant 20:38
Yeah, well, yeah, I guess that, yeah, it's a good qualifier there, but I just don't understand, like, what part of you is like, you know, what I'm going to be outside for five hours today, should I put on sunscreen? Well, no, I did put
John Shull 20:50
sunscreen this past weekend, but obviously it's too late to a certain degree, but it is what it is, I mean, I'm Irish and German, like this happens. Should I have been smarter and probably prevented it? Prevented it, it probably, but I also didn't think a May 65 degree day in Michigan was gonna burn the shit out of me. So here we are.
Nick VinZant 21:18
Don't, don't you check how many cities are currently on your weather rotation that you look at on your phone, where you go through and you look at what the weather is in all of these cities? Just can you tell real quick, tell me how many different cities are on that?
John Shull 21:32
I mean, I found I actually went through and updated it not so long ago. Let's see, nine,
Nick VinZant 21:42
so you have nine cities that you can check the weather on almost relatively instantly. I also know that on that list of weather in the cities is the UV index, so you could check the UV index.
John Shull 21:57
Sure, I could, but I did it,
Nick VinZant 22:01
this like, look, sunscreen is my pet peeve. I get mad when people don't put sunscreen on and they're not taking care of themselves. It's something that's really easy to do, but when you go to the doctor and get diagnosed with skin cancer, like, what are you gonna say? Like, oops, you're gonna get mad, you're gonna be like, why me? Why me? Are you just going to be like, yeah, I knew this was going to happen, and I didn't do anything about it. So, as long as you take it like a man, that's fine.
John Shull 22:27
I've already had three melanoma removed, so I'm already there. I get checked every, every year in August, like I'm doing what I'm supposed to. I've already admitted that I should have worn sunscreen, but it is what you're not
Nick VinZant 22:43
doing. What you're supposed to, you're not doing what you're supposed to. If you're doing what you're supposed to, you would have put on sunscreen before you went out there,
John Shull 22:50
but I didn't. But I did this past weekend. It's a mute point.
Nick VinZant 22:54
It's not a mute point. You got to learn your lesson. I'm getting upset. If I was your doctor, if I was that dermatologist, and be like, yep, so you are 40 years old, roughly. You've had three things removed from your body already, and you decided that you're gonna spend all these hours outside not wearing sunscreen. If I was your doctor and there weren't various laws to ban this, I would just punch you straight in the face, punch you right in the mouth,
John Shull 23:20
what's the, what's the deeper root here? Why, why are you, why is it your pet peeve?
Nick VinZant 23:26
Oh, sunscreen,
John Shull 23:28
yeah, why, why is it your pet peeve?
Nick VinZant 23:30
Because it's an incredibly easy thing that people can do to protect themselves from something that is going to affect them in their lives. It's like not putting on a seat belt, like no, I just didn't
John Shull 23:43
do it. I mean, all I'm hearing is that you really care about me. So,
Nick VinZant 23:47
oh yeah, I'm not gonna disagree with that.
John Shull 23:50
Wow, when you
Nick VinZant 23:51
are dead from cancer at 50 and you leave your children fatherless because you didn't want to spend five seconds putting on sunscreen, think about that. That's the choice that you're making.
John Shull 24:03
Wow, you're going that deep on me. I'm
Nick VinZant 24:05
going.. it's.. I'm sorry to be the one to call and tell you the truth.
John Shull 24:09
I mean, I don't think.. I don't think I look this red in jet, like I think it's this, the camera, the lights. I don't think I look that red.
Nick VinZant 24:18
You look like a Twizzler, you. That's what you look like. You look like a Twizzler right now.
John Shull 24:27
All right. Well, can we? Should we move on? Shout outs. I think I think we've had enough of this. All right, let's do some shout outs now. We're going to start with Enter Fox, Quinton Anderson, Marjorie Franklin, and Marjorie gonna give her some love, because her profile picture, which I think was her, she's probably 95 so apparently we appeal to the elderly of the elderly, Isaiah Miles, Nicole Venezuela, Emmanuel Watson, Kathy Best. Walter Walters, man Robin Lucas, and Nigel Mathis. Good level, good Nigel.
Nick VinZant 25:08
I like a good Nigel. You pretty much know that they're from Europe,
John Shull 25:12
all right. Not
Nick VinZant 25:12
going to run into, you're not going to run into a lot of American Nigels. I think there needs to be more Robins. Robin is one of those classic, but not real common names.
John Shull 25:24
Okay, yeah, with a Y or an I, or both.
Nick VinZant 25:30
Well, a Y if it's a girl, an I if it's a boy. You can't have a boy with an R O B Y N.
John Shull 25:39
Yeah, no, I don't think so. I don't even think you can really have a robin as a boy if you're going traditional names. I don't think
Nick VinZant 25:46
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that five letters is the perfect number of letters for a name. Five letter names are the best names.
John Shull 25:59
I don't know about that. I think four letter names are better.
Nick VinZant 26:04
No, because you're a John, I'm a Nick. My son is a Logan and a Riley. Those are both better names than John and Nick. Five letters, five letters is traditional, but just a little bit different.
John Shull 26:22
No disrespect. disrespect to your children's names, but I think John and Nick are better names.
Nick VinZant 26:26
Vin, you're wrong. I just.. I mean, no,
John Shull 26:30
no, like Chris. Chris sucks. Sorry for all you Chris's. Vince sucks. Chris sucks. Brandt sucks. Butch sucks
Nick VinZant 26:42
all the crappy ones,
John Shull 26:45
Dave Maria
Nick VinZant 26:45
Mar, Maria. I think that a five letter, I think five letter names are better than four letter names.
John Shull 26:56
I got, I gotta disagree,
Nick VinZant 26:58
man.
John Shull 26:58
Gotta disagree with you,
Nick VinZant 27:00
possibly even an extra syllable, because five letters gets you that extra syllable.
John Shull 27:06
No, I gotta, nah, man, four, four letters is where it's at, and I'm not being biased either.
Nick VinZant 27:13
Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm a four letter, and I would go five. Okay? Are you ready?
John Shull 27:19
Yeah. What are we doing? Which part
Nick VinZant 27:21
you know, which part we're not doing the candle thing until later. Stop trying to push it up in the show.
John Shull 27:26
I'm so excited. I have a fantastic candle that was given to me by the most unsuspecting of people, but I guess we'll come back to it. How do you feel about automated vehicles like these Waymo robotaxis.
Nick VinZant 27:47
Oh, I trust computers more than I trust people.
John Shull 27:51
See, I'm.. I was all about it four or five years ago, whenever they really started kind of developing the technology. I saw one of these things in action over the weekend, and it was fine. Just, just throwing that out there, it was a test model. They were running it around Metro Detroit, for whatever reason. I guess it was fine. There was no issues, but just the thought of like an unmanned vehicle driving around just kind of gave me the the hebes, and I don't want to be old like an old man, you know. I understand that's where we're going. Thank you, but it was just weird. I don't know how else to say it, and I'm not sure how I would feel if there was even a quarter of those compared to how many of people driven cars out on the road.
Nick VinZant 28:43
I am really against AI. I do not like the idea of AI, because I think that it replaces what makes us who we are, which is our ability to think. Like, people need to be able to still continue to think, and I think that when people use AI a lot, they don't think and use their brain as much as they should be. And I don't like the idea of, like, well, we should put in this technology with no idea how to replace it, but when it comes to self-driving cars, I'm completely okay with that. I'm completely okay with computers taking over tasks that we don't really need to
John Shull 29:16
do. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, we have to drive, right? Most people have to drive to and from work to stores like your AI. Your AI statement's pretty spot on for me, and I think the scariest thing is we control it, but yet we make it to the point to where it's going to be uncontrollable, which is super scary to think about. It might already be there, I don't know.
Nick VinZant 29:39
Oh yeah, we can't control something that you fundamentally cannot control, something that is smarter than you, like you can't out think someone who is smarter than you. You might be able to get lucky for a little bit, but eventually that thing is going to outsmart you, and something that is magnet orders of magnitude smarter than us. But I'm completely okay with self-driving cars, completely. Completely okay with self-driving cars, and I actually hope that that speeds up, because if you have self-driving cars and you kind of take out the human variable of it, I think traffic could move a whole lot slower. Like, just think about when you're at a red light and one person goes, and then another person goes, and then another person goes. Like, how much time do you spend waiting for the person in front of you to go, if that was just automated by computers, and all of those cars went at the same time, like right as that car turn, that light turns green. Think of how much smoother traffic goes. So, I think it would be fantastic. I'm all for it. I ain't again, it I'm for
John Shull 30:42
it. Okay. Okay, yeah, I'm still on the fence. We'll see. Obviously, it's gonna.. it's coming.
Nick VinZant 30:48
Sorry again. Are you again it or fur it? Are you fur it or again it?
John Shull 30:54
What's in the middle of that? I'm again.. I'm a.. I'm a ferg in it. Like, I don't know. Try to combine the two stupid names.
Nick VinZant 31:03
Are you for it or again? It
John Shull 31:07
for drop for driverless cars. I'm for it, I guess. I don't, that just doesn't sound correct to say
Nick VinZant 31:16
it just does. Is it for it? I'm fur it. No, I'm a guinea.
John Shull 31:20
You're gonna go have a ferret. You're gonna jump in a turret. Like, what are we doing for it? You want some fur?
Nick VinZant 31:26
I'm just fur it. I'm fur being fur it or again it. I'm not again being again or fur it. I'm fur being fur again.
John Shull 31:36
Those of you that might stumble onto one of our shorts and see my red face, just know that 85% of it is the fact that I'm sunburned, probably, but the other 15% is out of rage, just against Nick saying the word for it, and again, it to be honest.
Nick VinZant 31:51
Did you shave your face, but not your neck?
John Shull 31:54
No, nope, I just haven't shaved it into two and a half weeks.
Nick VinZant 31:59
Oh, that's that's pathetic, if that's what you look like after two and a half weeks, that's pathetic. That's pathetic.
John Shull 32:07
Thank you. We've talked about it.
Nick VinZant 32:08
Yeah, you can't grow nothing. Dang, dude, I would at least, you would at least notice it. Although I've reached the age where I'm getting a little salt and pepper in there.
John Shull 32:16
That boy, well, you always look sharp. It was got good hair.
Nick VinZant 32:20
Thank you. Little salt and pepper in that beard, though. Okay, all right. You got anything else? Are you just going to move on to the only thing that you ever want to talk about, which is candles?
John Shull 32:29
I mean, I wanted to talk World Cup, but you know, I'm because I'm just.. I just feel like it's just so disappointing. I like, yeah, Canada, Mexico. like that's. and once again, we don't live there, but you just see all the stuff coming out of those countries, because they're host countries too, and it's all about the World Cup, and that's what we should be. But yet, I feel like I feel like I'm going to say this and be definitive in this: 97% of Americans, if you were to ask any of them to name one national team player, they couldn't name you a single player.
Nick VinZant 33:05
Oh, I couldn't, for the, you, you're talking for the United States, obviously, where I couldn't just get lucky and say Ronaldo
John Shull 33:12
from the US team only,
Nick VinZant 33:14
not a clue, not not a single clue, like not a first name, not a last name, like I couldn't even just be like, oh, that Craig guy couldn't nothing, but the United States isn't any good,
John Shull 33:28
yeah, but I mean, that's the, we're the home, I mean, I get what you're saying 1,000% but we're the whole nation, like, it's, it just, it baffles me, I mean,
Nick VinZant 33:37
but here's the thing, too, to me about the World Cup is that if we wanted to, if the United States wanted to, we would absolutely wreck everybody else. If we took who the people who are our best athletes, the Lebron James is the NFL cornerbacks, the wide receivers, the best athletes that we have, and had them play soccer, we would destroy people, so yeah, you have soccer, but it's because we are letting you have soccer, so the rest of the world don't get cocky about it. If we wanted it, we could take it.
John Shull 34:10
Let us such American narcissism attitude. I are you going to
Nick VinZant 34:15
disagree with that, though? Are you going to disagree that the United States has the best athletes in the world, and then, if we put the best athletes in the world into that, we would destroy people
John Shull 34:28
just to save 10 minutes. No, I do not think we have the best athletes in the world, and I do not think even LeBron James himself could step onto a soccer field and dominate, even with training. I just.. I don't think he would.
Nick VinZant 34:44
You're talking about somebody who's fundamentally one of the most athletic people who have ever lived. A person that is incredibly fast has something like a 40 plus inch vertical, is six eight and 260 pounds. Like that dude is just gonna just kill you, he. It's not even a competition, like basketball players alone, because they're agile, they're fast, they're explosive, they're all of that stuff, they're all of the things that you need a soccer player to be, except bigger and stronger and faster.
John Shull 35:15
I mean, I'm not, I don't want people to think I'm taking anything away from LeBron, he is one of the greatest specimens that we know that's ever been created. I just, I don't, I don't think, I don't think those are the best athletes. I just, I don't kind of, I'm kind of skewed.
Nick VinZant 35:33
Yeah, here's, here's where I can like shut this down with some factual evidence. If you look at the fastest soccer players, the fastest soccer player, because I just happened to be watching this other day, ran 22 miles an hour while playing soccer. The fastest NFL players are running 20 twos and 20 threes with pads on, with other people holding on to them and chasing them. So this isn't a competition, like I don't think it's even really a boisterous statement to say that our athletes are really good, and our best athletes aren't playing soccer.
John Shull 36:09
I know you thought you shut it down, but I think there's a thing in beating somebody to a spot and then being able to take a lob pass, or being able to catch a ball, and then dribble,
Nick VinZant 36:19
being able to catch a ball, like being able to catch a ball, while somebody else has this trying to keep you from catching that ball, and is also trying to tackle you, and you're able to just get away from them. I'm sorry. Look, listen, this isn't an argument that we even have to have, because I'm in Seattle, where we have champions. I'm a champion, I know what it takes to be a champion, and you're in Detroit, you don't know what it takes to be a champion. You can't speak about sports, you're not a champion. You don't have your hand in the dirt. Your hands,
John Shull 36:51
anyone to think that I agree with anything that you said, that's all I want. We can move on. Okay. Well, it's time, isn't it.
Nick VinZant 37:01
Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's time the Outlaw Candle connoisseur rides again. Candle of the month,
John Shull 37:13
make this fast, because I know you got stuff to do. The people listening,
Nick VinZant 37:18
always have time. I think our top five is going to go really quickly, but go ahead with your candles.
John Shull 37:23
So, this was this candle was given to me. I actually had forgotten that I was given it about a decade ago, and I was cleaning out some stuff in my basement, and I was like, oh hell, here's a candle that I forgot about. So, this person I don't have to talk to anymore. It was a going away gift, actually. When I left Florida, so it's been more than a decade ago. But, needless to say, the candle, which is made by the Do Candle Company, is its label is basically the Blockbuster logo, though they can't legally use the Blockbuster logo, so it's just called Video Store, and I love, I love, love, love the way that they promo this candle, because it says that, like, the first layer is going to be like carpet dust, like soft wood, you know, stale cigarettes, the second layer is gonna be like that, that machine smell, you know, dusty video game prints, things like that, which all really translate to it's gonna, it's kind of like a pecan, like vanilla, lots of vanilla in the candle, but it's, you get two things when you burn it, and they have, they have like five different sizes: one wick, two wick, four wick, you know, things like that. But you're gonna get two things, you're gonna get nostalgia, right? Because everyone went to Blockbuster, if you're our age, or a family video, right? So it's dope, it's sweet, it's cool, you know, the way that they design the package on the candles, awesome. And then, secondly, I mean, you have five options to choose from. You can get 100 and 100 plus hours of burn time, or 20 plus hours of burn time. Like, it's great. And I don't think I've ever featured this candle company. I'd do a little research. I had to post on the candle forums, sent him crazy, except for old.. I won't say her last name, but Gene B, who said Deal Candle Company, they're amazing, like. And then we had a whole.. we had a whole separate message thing about it. So, anyways, Candle the Month from Deal Candle Company, that's called Video Store. Check it out.
Nick VinZant 39:39
What's your. what. what. what's your screen name on the candle form? I'm
John Shull 39:44
not, I'm not gonna say that publicly
Nick VinZant 39:48
able to, if I, if I get on the candle form, would I be able to figure out that it's you?
John Shull 39:55
Oof, that's a yeah, probably, just because you know my man. Energyisms and work and things, but like my profile, I don't, I don't use my real name on purpose, so oh,
Nick VinZant 40:08
you don't have, you're not gonna go say it with your chest, then you know, hot little keyboard warrior back there.
John Shull 40:14
Well, I started off this, it was kind of a joke at first, and then I actually realized, like any niche that our niche that people love this, so I, you know, I wanted to make sure that I participated fully, but you know, didn't get too in the weeds.
Nick VinZant 40:32
I was going to make fun of you, but that is also a word that I can not really sure exactly how to pronounce it, so I never know,
John Shull 40:41
is it niche or niche, I think, like each niche.
Nick VinZant 40:46
I always feel like I'm gonna say niche, niche. Okay? Do you have a.. do you have a nemesis in the can of forms? Is there, like,
John Shull 40:56
we've talked about.. always,
Nick VinZant 40:57
always comment on my pope.
John Shull 40:59
No, I mean, there's certain topics that, of course, draw bots and people that are just there to stir trouble, but the candle forums are usually pretty peaceful. It's they're very well moderated too. The people that do the moderation are very, they're on top of it, they're very fast. So,
Nick VinZant 41:15
do you think you do you think you have what it takes to be a moderator someday? Is that your goal to work up to a moderator?
John Shull 41:21
I don't, I don't want to be a moderator, but yes, I think if I, I think, I think I could be a moderator, but I don't want to be.
Nick VinZant 41:30
Well, by all means, never have the courage to find out what you really got.
John Shull 41:37
Fair, I'm never gonna find out how good I am there.
Nick VinZant 41:42
Okay, all right. Just a quick reminder, after the candle of the month segment, that John has had sex at least twice.
John Shull 41:51
Yes, at least twice, that we know, at least twice
Nick VinZant 41:55
with a woman,
John Shull 41:56
yes, with, hey, whatever, but yes, whatever, but with another,
Nick VinZant 42:00
but I, what I should have said, with another person,
John Shull 42:03
yeah, yeah, at least twice,
Nick VinZant 42:06
at least twice. Okay? Are you ready for our top five? I have no idea how this is going to go. This is a great idea when I was pretty high on Saturday or Friday, but, man, all of a sudden, in reality, I don't know if it's a good idea or not.
John Shull 42:19
I think I have a really good top five list, actually.
Nick VinZant 42:22
Okay, all right. So, our top five is top five batteries. It's your number five.
John Shull 42:28
I don't know why you're laughing. There's a lot of batteries. Uh, alright, so my number five is the power bank battery, and those are the basically the batteries that you use to plug it and charge other devices that have batteries, so it's like a rechargeable battery pack, essentially. So maybe a battery pack is probably the better way to put it.
Nick VinZant 42:49
Okay, okay. I also have a big old battery in my top five, like big old batteries. You just can't go wrong with a big old battery, that's what I want. So my number five is a lan a lantern battery, you just can't go wrong with a big old battery,
John Shull 43:07
like it's a
Nick VinZant 43:08
lantern battery.
John Shull 43:09
Yeah, but doesn't have, like, isn't like a G or something like battery, you know, the DC.
Nick VinZant 43:16
I actually looked this up, and I was a little bit confused if a lantern battery is technically what my number four
John Shull 43:24
is, so I'm just gonna
Nick VinZant 43:24
go ahead and say it's different.
John Shull 43:26
All right, fair enough. My number four are the AAA batteries, the smaller ones.
Nick VinZant 43:32
Ruh, I wonder what you're going to have up at the top of there, because I would have had triple A at least in the top three.
John Shull 43:40
I mean, I'm pretty sure you have my final three somewhere on your list, but there's a couple of really big ones out there.
Nick VinZant 43:49
My number four is a D battery, yeah. Just whenever you got a big old battery, you know you're gonna be doing something fun, like, oh, it's gonna be cool. So big old battery,
John Shull 44:02
so far all your list has consisted of is you saying the word big old battery, so I love big
Nick VinZant 44:07
old batteries, man. Get some big old batteries out there,
John Shull 44:10
that's a win. Um, my number three in.. I'm probably gonna regret this, but my number three is your phone battery,
Nick VinZant 44:22
okay? Can you replace your phone battery,
John Shull 44:27
and when your battery starts to die, you have to get a new battery, you have to get a new phone, essentially. So, you know,
Nick VinZant 44:36
I have some bad news. I think, like, as you can see, it's starting like it's literally starting to come apart. I think I'm, I think I might have to get a new phone by 2027 Definitely within 2027 I'm gonna have to get a new phone, which would be my first new phone since 2016
John Shull 44:58
Good, I mean.
Nick VinZant 45:00
It's going to be devastating to me.
John Shull 45:02
Your fingers will rejoice.
Nick VinZant 45:04
My number three is a triple A,
John Shull 45:07
okay?
Nick VinZant 45:09
But I'm always just disappointed whenever I have to use a triple A, because it's not a double A, like number two.
John Shull 45:19
So, speaking of my number two is the double A battery.
Nick VinZant 45:23
Your number two is the double A.
John Shull 45:25
It was, it's tough, it's tough, it's a tough decision between my number one and number two, but my number one gets it based on something I'll mention in a minute.
Nick VinZant 45:37
Okay, my number two is a nine volt,
John Shull 45:41
okay, the
Nick VinZant 45:41
nine volt powered every RC type remote control type thing that you had growing up as a kid, like if you saw nine volts in the Christmas stocking, you knew you were getting something like, oh, those were the ones you always had to touch to your tongue to the nine, yeah, give
John Shull 45:59
you a little shock, little springs, yeah, yep, God, that was terrible. And whoever thought of that was not the greatest person ever.
Nick VinZant 46:07
Like, could you imagine being the first person that's like, you know what, take this electrical device and touch it to your tongue, that'll be a good idea.
John Shull 46:16
No, that sounds terrible. Just shitty.
Nick VinZant 46:20
Isn't there a better way to do this? Nope. Only pain. The only way to know if the battery works is through pain.
John Shull 46:27
Only pain. What's
Nick VinZant 46:29
your number one?
John Shull 46:30
My number one has a car battery.
Nick VinZant 46:33
Oh, I mean, yeah, I feel like that's kind of cheating. Like, my number one is a double A. I think Double A is still better than a car battery.
John Shull 46:43
I mean, but car, you, you legitimately need a car battery for the car to work well. Yeah, even an EV, yeah, you literally need the car battery for the car to work, like regardless of what kind of combustion cycle you have.
Nick VinZant 46:59
Double A's run TV remotes,
John Shull 47:04
I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with you on the importance of the double A battery, but car battery gets the nod for my number one.
Nick VinZant 47:12
I can get to where I need to go another way. I have no options other than the TV remote. The TV remote to me is more essential than a car. I
John Shull 47:25
mean, technically you can operate your TV via your phone now.
Nick VinZant 47:30
Oh, well, I can't. Of course,
John Shull 47:32
you can. You probably still have a TV.
Nick VinZant 47:35
Actually, I think I got it free. That somebody was in my neighborhood was giving away TVs. I never understood that they put it up on this buy nothing thing. They're like, we're moving, we've got two TVs. Who wants them? You never give away a TV.
John Shull 47:50
Yeah, yeah, because you know you can always find a use for a TV.
Nick VinZant 47:54
Can always find a use for a TV. Do you have anything in your honorable mention? Because, honestly, I can't even think of anything other, other types of batteries,
John Shull 48:01
uh, I wrote down a watch battery, but that was it.
Nick VinZant 48:05
Oh, yeah, that's probably good. I mean, I, yeah, I should have put a watch battery in there, but I'm not the kind of guy. Are you a watch guy?
John Shull 48:13
Uh, ish, yeah. You think my watch now? Look at this.
Nick VinZant 48:19
Oh man, yeah, it's some by all means, man, don't take any steps to protect yourself from the fucking sun.
John Shull 48:26
Maybe I am that red. Holy shit,
Nick VinZant 48:29
yeah. Oh yeah,
John Shull 48:31
I got a problem. You see the Kool-Aid man walking around Metro Detroit.
Nick VinZant 48:35
That's exactly what you, okay, that's gonna go ahead and do it for this episode of Profoundly Pointless. I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get us a chance, give us a quick review. We really appreciate it. Really helps us out. And let us know what you think is the best kind of batteries. I, I mean, I know that a car battery is ultimately more important than double A batteries, but I also feel like double A batteries are more important, and I can't really explain.