Come for the pimple popping and back waxing horror stories, stay for the skin care and beauty tips. Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly joins us for this episode. We talk skin care secrets, the best way to pop pimples and beauty products that work. Then, we countdown the Top 5 Appliances.
Interview with Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly
Speakers
Nick VinZant : Profoundly Pointless Host
Reanne Kelly: Master Aesthetician
Nick VinZant 0:15 Hey everybody, welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick VinZant coming up in this episode, we're going to talk about skin and appliances.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 0:24 I mean, especially for women, and especially with social media and constant pictures, I think people are really taking the time to take care of their skin now and Oh gosh, there's so many. I mean, I've seen people completely, you know, burn their faces and you know, give themselves second degree burns with chemical peels. Lady I remember she tried to, she had some hyperpigmentation on her face. And instead of trying to treat it, she just got a tattoo gun off of Amazon and tried to color over it. I always tell people if they want to have it a really good skincare routine, SPF sun screen, vitamin A and vitamin C and you are going to be pretty set for life.
Nick VinZant 1:09 I want to thank you guys so much for joining us. If you get a chance, like download, subscribe, share, we really appreciate it. It really helps us out. So this episode is one of those where I had no idea that there was so much that went into this because not only does our first guests really have some fantastic insight into the best way to care for your skin and some really good beauty tips. But it's also this really interesting look at this strange things that people do because she has these stories that make you just what the hell was that person thinking? Our first guest is a master esthetician with over 10 years of experience. This is rianne Kelly. So What exactly is an aesthetician?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 2:02 So an esthetician is somebody that works with skin and you know, depending on the state, it can be a whole array of things but facials waxing, chemical peels micro needling and you know you go all the way up to like lasers, you know, for hair removal or resurfacing
Nick VinZant 2:21 I mean, do most people think about their skin that much, like I can't honestly say I ever really do.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 2:27 I think guys are becoming more aware of their skin and taking care of it. I have definitely a lot more male clientele that I did you know, when I started out 10 years ago, but I mean, especially for women, and especially with social media and constant pictures, I think people are really taking the time to take care of their skin now and we also have all this information at our fingertips. You know, so people are also becoming more savvy about skincare too. Can you really do something about it? Are you kind of your skin is your skin No, I mean, there's absolutely things that you can do for your skin. And it may take time and patience, but we can always improve situations. And it's definitely a team effort. I always say like, treatments are 20% of the process and your home cares 80% of the process. So it's a team effort, but you can really get phenomenal results. And that's one of the reasons that I love my job is because I can really have an impact on somebody's life.
Nick VinZant 3:27 Are you fixing a problem necessarily? Are you just trying to make somebody look better for lack of a better phrase?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 3:34 Yeah, I mean, a lot of times it is, you know, like a specific problem. wrinkles, acne hyperpigmentation, which is, you know, brown spots, freckles on the face. And you know, there times just kind of some people just won't get a while actually, I think most people want to get to a point for women anyways, that they don't have to wear makeup and they feel confident in the skin going upside.
Nick VinZant 3:58 What are you generally doing the most
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 4:02 For me, I'm more on the medical side of the spectrum for aestheticians. So I do a lot of micro needling chemical peels and lasers.
Nick VinZant 4:14 For somebody that doesn't know anything about it, like all of this sounds like that would be bad for the skin, like chemicals, oils and lasers on you
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 4:24 You definitely want to go to somebody who knows what they're doing, because in the wrong hands, it definitely can do damage. I always say like, with chemical peels, we're doing a controlled burn to stimulate college and production, fix the issue. So there is a fine line, you know, between good and bad, and that's why you definitely want to do your research and go to somebody good and then it's why I encourage my clients never to try to do these things at home because they can get these things off of Amazon and that's when you hear about all these horror stories. What's kind of like the worst horror story Oh gosh, there's so many. I mean, I've seen people completely, you know, burn their faces and, you know, give themselves second degree burns with chemical peels that they've gotten off Amazon. Lady I remember if you try to she had some hyperpigmentation on her face. And instead of trying to treat it she just got a tattoo gun off of Amazon and tried to color over it flesh color.
Nick VinZant 5:30 What?Like, like, but she just tried to tattoo over her own face.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 5:42 Yeah.
Nick VinZant 5:43 Right, like hearing that. That makes no sense. But what is it about like somebody's skin that makes them desperate enough that they would do something like that.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 5:52 It can be a lot of things. I think, you know, money and patience are definitely Some big factors, maybe not trusting somebody else to do their skin or being able to find the right fit with somebody. And I think also with the technology that we have nowadays, I think people think that they can do it themselves too. Like I'm going to try this myself first and save some money.
Nick VinZant 6:19 When when we talk about like, what most people are doing wrong, what are most people doing wrong in terms of skincare?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 6:26 It's hard to answer because it It varies from person to person, what they're doing wrong.And depending on what their issue and concern is, but you know, just having a basic routine down probably the number one thing is, you know, people aren't wearing sunscreen. That's the biggest thing and washing their face and having kind of just a basic routine but I always tell people, sunscreen is the best thing you can do for your skin. If you want to be super minimal 80 to 90% of aging is due to the sun
Nick VinZant 6:59 Do they need to use like a certain SPF or is pretty much anything enough?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 7:06 I always recommend at least an SPF of 30 and above and if you can find one with zinc oxide or titanium dioxide, those are two physical, UV filters. Those are the best ones and they cover that full, UVA UVB spectrum of protection, which is awesome.
Nick VinZant 7:24 What are some of the most popular treatments that an aesthetician is doing?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 7:30 I think most aestheticians we're known for like facials, and waxing facials are amazing. You not only come out with glowing clean skin, but you also feel very relaxed at the same time. How did you get into this? I actually started working at a medical Spa in high school, part time doing I started off as a spa assistant, and then worked my way up to front desk and went to college for a couple of years and I just was like you know, this isn't what I want to do and kind of always have In the back of my mind, because I love beauty and helping people feel better about themselves. So I just left school and went for it and it was the best decision I've ever made.
Nick VinZant 8:10 Is it financially lucrative in and of itself? Or do you have to kind of own your own business for it?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 8:16 It can be very financially lucrative, but it takes time. It is definitely not. There's definitely I always tell people who want advice, I always say, it's gonna take some time you have to hustle. You may not be where you want to be right away. But if you stick with it, it's a really amazing job. You love what you do. And you can be totally, you know, financially stable and more so, but you don't necessarily you don't necessarily have to own your own business to get there. The last place I worked at a big medical spa, and I was making very good money, so and able to financially support myself.
Nick VinZant 8:56 Why do people like watching pimple popping videos
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 9:01 I happen to be one of those sick people. Any aesthetician probably loves pimple popping as well. I think there's something about there's a problem. And you can actually see yourself getting rid of it that you get that you get that visual satisfaction and if you're actually doing the extraction, I mean, you can actually feel things like popping out and moving. And so it's very, like satisfying in that way like, Oh, I got it
Nick VinZant 9:36 more satisfying to pop your own pimple or somebody else's pimple.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 9:40 I mean, more satisfying to do somebody else cuz then it doesn't hurt me at all.
Nick VinZant 9:47 That's it every time I've been asked to like pop someone else's pimple like you can crank away on somebody else.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 9:53 Yes. And yeah, and I definitely I get lost in extraction. Sometimes I'm like, Oh, I was supposed to just do 10 minutes. extractions and that was 30 minutes. Sorry.
Nick VinZant 10:03 Is there a good technique like what's the best pimple popping technique?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 10:08 Definitely, there's definitely a technique to it because you don't want to injure or hurt the skin anymore. So I always tell people, if they're going going to do it at home, you know, do it after a shower or take a rag and run it under hot water and kind of hold it on the pimple for a couple of minutes just to soften the seat them, the oil in the pimple. And then wash your hands. Wash the area if you didn't do it right after the shower, and wrap your fingers with some toilet paper or you can use the ends of like q tips. And you just want to go on the very sides of the pimple and you want to push down and that way everything is pushed up. And if it doesn't come easily, step back and leave it alone. Clean it. Come back to it another day. I can't though I can't Seen it is really good, you can do that I sing it to help with the inflammation. Raw manuka honey is actually a really good spot treatment too, because it's anti inflammatory. It's antibacterial. And it's also a humectant. So it doesn't. So it hydrates the skin.
Nick VinZant 11:16 You have a really good Instagram following when you first kind of started we were you surprised that so many people were, were looking for this?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 11:25 Yes or no. But when I started Instagram, it was probably like, five years ago now more than five years ago, gosh, like seven. And there weren't a ton of estheticians on Instagram when I started it. And that's kind of why I started it. I wanted to get that education out there for people. And it's definitely I mean, it's really grown in the last year and I think now like, every statistic is on Instagram because it's free marketing, whether they're trying to educate or just trying to help build their business. Hardest place to pop a pimple artist placed to pop a pimple back can be backs can be a little bit stubborn. I feel like you can't, you know, the skin isn't as pliable so it's a little harder to work with. But yeah, it not necessarily is due to the area is due to the pencil sometimes to the type of pencil and if it's ready or not to come out, oh,
Nick VinZant 12:25 here's another one. What are these things on my nose? They didn't. There's no picture they just put what are these things on?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 12:35 Well, I'm guessing they're probably blackheads or sebaceous filaments sebaceous filaments, they kind of look like blackheads but they're supposed to naturally be in our nose. So yes, you can squeeze them out but they're always going to come right back. And then blackheads is you know, see them and dirt is in the poor and it gets exposed to all Oxygen, and turns black and that's why you see those blackheads in the poor, biggest waste of time treatment or product. That's I would say, I would say more of a fluffy In my opinion, something more of a fluffy facial because yes, it's relaxing but it's not, you know, doing much for your skin. I would say if you're going to do a facial at least do something slightly corrective
Nick VinZant 13:24 There's so many products that are out there for people are there are there really things that seem to work better than other ones?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 13:32 Absolutely. And I always tell people if they want to have a really good skincare routine, SPF sunscreen, vitamin A and vitamin C and you are going to be pretty set for life. We know that vitamin A, or retinoids, as they're called, they stimulate collagen production. And they do a whole other lot of things but collagen production is really what they're known for. And as we age We get into our early 20s, we start slowing down in our collagen production. So it's essential to start those really soon as soon as you can, and it's never too late either. But, and then vitamin C is an antioxidant. It helps with free radical damage, which is everywhere the sun pollution, we create them in our bodies. But also without vitamin C, we can't make or store collagen. So they kind of need each other in a sense to and then of course, you know, SPF is going to block the sun and washing your face is going to make sure you're getting all that dirt pollution and grime off of your face and your leftover products too. So the products you put on afterwards can penetrate well.
Nick VinZant 14:43 Is there one product that you would say like oh, that's that's the that's the jam. That's what people need.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 14:50 I don't know I honestly I could not pick one. I mean if it was that, if I had to pick one product like I said SPF is the most efficient Product
Nick VinZant 15:00 What about lotion or something like that? Is there? Is there one stuff that's better than other ones?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 15:06 It depends. It's so hard because there's so many products out there nowadays and they all do different things. So you have moisturizers and lotions that are more hydrating, some of them are more anti aging. Some of them are frightening. You know, and some of them kind of do a mix of all of them.
Nick VinZant 15:25 Are they really doing something? No, or some of them kind of like a marketing waste?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 15:30 Definitely, some are a marketing waste thing. You know, moisturizers, I always tell people if they want to invest properly and invest well in products serums are where people should spend money on because serums they're smaller molecules. So they're going to penetrate deeper into the skin. And then of course, it's they're super concentrated too. So you're getting a lot of bang for your buck.
Nick VinZant 15:53 Serum, I'm not sure what that is
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 15:57 so serums there. really lightweight, they can go anywhere from Gosh, a super watery consistency to kind of a lotion consistency and anything in between. But some of them there's a serum for everything I mean, acne, hyperpigmentation, hydration, you know, moisturizers and lotions. They're good for hydrating the skin and kind of making a barrier, but they're not going to be at corrective as serums would be.
Nick VinZant 16:29 No, do you do Botox or is that is that a medical doctor that has to do?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 16:33 Yeah, depends on the state. There are some states where estheticians can inject but I'm very against that and don't think that should be done. But typically it is a nurse or a doctor who's doing Botox or filler.
Nick VinZant 16:48 So how can people kind of find a make sure they have somebody that really knows what they're doing?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 16:55 Definitely checking out, you know, their referrals. Get it checking their Instagram, kind of following them for a while. And of course, word of mouth referrals too. And, you know, you can always ask people like, what their background is. And I encourage that too, in most Consultations are free with people so you can kind of go around and see who's the best fit for you.
Nick VinZant 17:20 Here's another listener question. What is the grossest thing you've ever had to do? Oh, God.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 17:29 I don't know if that's safe.
Nick VinZant 17:33 It's look it's, there's no there's nothing's off limits. It's not for kids. Now I'm really curious, like, what was it?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 17:42 Um, I think probably my worst experiences which I don't do this anymore. was with waxing.
Nick VinZant 17:51 Oh, yeah.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 17:55 And you have to wax you know, I was very good at waxing. I was very Fast they did a good job. But that's always where you kind of usually run into issues and stuff like that. So yeah, just you know, people not being clean enough for having, you know, accidents like starting their period in the middle of a wax or not wiping well enough and they turn over and you're like, oh, god
Nick VinZant 18:26 I almost threw up. Because I could imagine
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 18:29 like, yeah, you feel that way sometimes.
Nick VinZant 18:33 Was it a guy who didn't wipe enough for a girl?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 18:36 Girl
Nick VinZant 18:37 Really? I get like a guy I could see maybe he thought it was gas and didn't check correctly. That doesn't seem like a thing a woman would necessarily do.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 18:48 I know. But now that I'm thinking about it, I don't think I've ever had a man.I've never had a man. leave anything back there.
Nick VinZant 18:56 Yeah, no. Maybe we're better. Maybe we're better wipe
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 19:03 Maybe they're just really paranoid before they come in. They're like, I gotta make sure this is good.
Nick VinZant 19:08 Have you ever had a guy though that came in and you're just like, buddy, I can't help you. I'm not. I'm not tackling that whole thing you got going on back there.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 19:19 No, No, I haven't. No, luckily.
Nick VinZant 19:22 So Laser Hair Removal, does that really work, does it do what's advertised?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 19:30 Well, it's a permanent form of hair reduction is what I always tell my clients. So it's a hair reduction, can you get 100%? Yes, it's possible. And then as far as coming back, the only thing that can bring the hair back is hormones. So for females, that's more of the face area. So I always tell them, they'll have to have touch ups every once in a while because that's kind of women's hormonal area. And then for guys, unfortunately, its backs that there hormonal area.
Nick VinZant 20:01 Oh, I've heard I've heard of women that have like after, after they have a baby, they kind of get a moustache look.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 20:09 Yeah. So obviously in pregnancy hormones are the issue. So sometimes after somebody has a baby, that could stimulate some hair growth, they come back and do a couple of touch ups and then they're good to go again. I've seen some where they almost look like the pigmentation changes, though. Is that Yeah, no, that's melasma and or the pregnancy mass, and typically is associated with pregnancy, but it can happen outside of pregnancy. I see it a lot with young girls who are on birth control, and then usually a combination of birth control and sun exposure. And it triggers that pregnancy mask.
Nick VinZant 20:47 I was I was looking at some of the, you know, the some of your before or after posts. These are people can they be pretty emotional afterwards.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 20:56 Yeah, absolutely. And it's Whereas it's just so rewarding to be able to help somebody feel confident in their skin. Just the best feeling.
Nick VinZant 21:07 What advice would you give for somebody during the awkward teenage acne years?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 21:14 Definitely, if somebody is having a problem, it can be so hard for teenagers because they're so self confident about it. Sorry, self conscious about it. And especially like teenage guys, they really don't ask for help a lot. So usually, it's their mom's bringing them in and just, you know, go to the doctor, go to an aesthetician get the problem fixed now rather than later, because I just, it breaks my heart when I have these teenagers come in who have been dealing with it for years and they're so self conscious and then they have all this scarring, which is permanent, and it just really affects their self esteem. What do you think? Why is it such like leaves such lasting impact on us, like, even in our 30s I know people that are still super self conscious. Yeah. You know, it's our face. It's our skin. And it's the first thing that people see. And I think especially now, you know, I grew up kind of when technology was, you know, like I had a cell phone in middle school. But we didn't take selfies. We didn't have all these filters with Snapchat and stuff. And my friend's daughter who's 15, she's constantly on Snapchat with these filters, and it makes you look like you have amazing flawless skin. And then if that filter comes off, you're like, oh, why doesn't my skin look that good? So I think there's a lot of judging ourselves on, and especially what we see in the media, too. I mean, magazines and television. They're all edited. We're not so we think people have this amazing skin. I'm like, No, their skin does not look like them in real life.
Nick VinZant 22:58 That's always gonna Like there's anybody, have you ever seen somebody whose skin actually really looks like that?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 23:05 I mean, people have, can have beautiful skin, but what they're seeing, you know, in magazines and stuff, they have less wrinkles. They don't have any pores. And it's like, no, it's all skin has pores, and, you know, so they can have beautiful skin, but I guarantee you, it's not going to look like it does, you know, edited by Photoshop,
Nick VinZant 23:27 can you really kind of stop the aging process? Or are you basically just controlling it?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 23:33 you're controlling it, you know, aging is always a constant battle. So you're helping to control it and to slow it down as much as possible. And depending on how aggressive you want to be with treatments, I mean, you can definitely, you know, it's all it's not about necessarily looking younger, it's about feeling good and looking good for your age.
Nick VinZant 23:56 People don't tan anymore. Do they do that.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 24:00 They do unfortunately,
Nick VinZant 24:02 that's just a disaster, right?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 24:04 It is. It is. It's so sad. I'm a big cancer advocate. And so the whole month of May I dedicate my Instagram to skin cancer awareness. And I have to do all of this research and find info to put on it. And I see all of these stories of, you know, men and women, teenagers, 20 year old 30 year olds dying from skin cancer, because, you know, they were tanning AND and OR using tanning beds, and it's just heartbreaking.
Nick VinZant 24:36 I thought they outlawed them in some places, right?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 24:39 They know. They're, they're banned in Australia. But I'm here most states and in Washington. We I was actually a woman, a young girl I should say in her 20s 20s 30s she was she died from melanoma. And her and her parents worked really hard to get a bill passed in Washington that you have to be 18 or over to use a tanning bed or have a parent signature.
Nick VinZant 25:11 What would you think is the most fascinating thing about it?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 25:15 The skin isn't just fat, you know, it's our largest organ in our body and I think we forget about that because it's on the outside. But I mean, it does so many things. I mean, it regulates body body temperature, it keeps things from coming in and coming out, you know, sweat comes from it and not only you know, it's it's self repairing, I mean, you get a cut or a, you know, a wound in your skin is going to try to repair that I mean, that's pretty amazing. You not many other organs can do that and repair themselves and that's kind of where estheticians come in. We do these controlled injuries to stimulate collagen production and try to help heal the skin.
Nick VinZant 25:53 Is there really a right way to put on lotion or to dry yourself with a towel? Is that stuff true?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 26:01 No, no. I mean, as long as you're getting the lotion on your skin, I know a lot of times I'll see. You know, make sure you're doing upward movements on the neck. And I'm like, that's no, your skin too. Can't tell which direction we're applying it.
Nick VinZant 26:16 I saw something once though. Where you're not supposed to dry your face you pat your face.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 26:21 Yeah, you want to pat it, you just don't want to be too aggressive because towels can be kind of abrasive and, you know, cause irritation. And then of course, you always want to use a clean towel too, because you don't want to put any bacteria on your face as well.
Nick VinZant 26:35 I have a personal opinion that wash cloths are disgusting, and no one should be using them. Is that true?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 26:41 I kind of feel the same way. I mean, but there there are some really great soft like microfiber washcloths now that are just super soft and not abrasive. And as long as you're using a new one each time, that would be fine.
Nick VinZant 26:57 Or guys embarrassed when they come in, do they try to act a certain way
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 27:00 They do some, I mean, sometimes you can tell they're a little bit hesitant but like I said, you know, the last couple years guys have really started to get into skincare. And, and a lot I have some followers that are guys and they're so knowledgeable, knowledgeable about it too. So that sometimes Yeah, they are a little embarrassed especially a lot of times guys are coming in for like acne related problems so they're already a little self conscious to begin with.
Nick VinZant 27:31 I used to be a TV news anchor. And I had an agent that recommended like your eyebrows are too pointy you need to get that taken care of of. It was kind of nice. I'm not gonna lie.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 27:44 Yeah, I do see that. And I do a lot of laser hair removal on guys too. And you know, they love it knows that that kind of gets them into the arena to and starts to get make them think about doing things.
Nick VinZant 27:58 Do you have any advice For somebody with splotchy facial hair
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 28:03 in what regard?
Nick VinZant 28:07 I can't grow a beard, and I just feel stupid.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 28:10 Yeah, well, they do do beard transplants and hair transplants have really come a long way. They look really amazing. I mean, you can't even tell anymore. You could also try doing PRP injections in the area to see if that stimulates some hair growth and PRP is when we draw blood from you. We spin it to separate it and then we take the PRP which is basically liquid gold, it's just full of like growth factors and all this good stuff. And then they can inject it into the areas to help stimulate hair growth. Do it a lot on people who are having, you know, losing hair on their head
Nick VinZant 28:51 They can do that for male pattern baldness.
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 28:55 Yes they can do it for balding but not bald. There still there still has to be some You know, follicles in the area?
Nick VinZant 29:03 That is That seems to be the big thing for guys right when they lose their hair?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 29:08 Oh, definitely. I think it's an issue for guys that they don't really I mean, it definitely affects their self confidence and I just don't think it's talked about enough and it's not made normal enough to, you know, try and fix the issue so guys just live with it a lot of times and it affects them.
Nick VinZant 29:27 If people are kind of interested in booking an appointment with you, they want to follow you what should they do?
Master Aesthetician Reanne Kelly 29:33 So Instagram is probably the best way to get in touch with me. My Instagram handle is the dot master dot s petition with an A in front of it. And that has all of my info on there where I'm located. I'm opening up a business as soon as all of this COVID stuff is over and it'll be in Bellevue area and you can see all my before and afters and stuff like that kind of get to know me. And you can also always shoot me an email and my email is the master esthetician@gmail.com.
Nick VinZant 30:09 I want to thank Reanne so much for joining us. If you want to connect with her, we've linked to her on our social media accounts. We're Profoundly Pointless on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. And we've also included information about how to contact her on the RSS feed that's on this podcast, her Instagram. It's, if you really like pimple popping videos as a place to be man. That's the place to be.