She’s now known as the Queen of Destruction. But there was a time when getting behind the wheel of a car was Bekkah Doyle’s greatest fear. We talk Demolition Derbys, the joy of racing and the most crash-resistant cars. Then, we countdown the Top 5 Scary but Real Places.

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Bekkah Doyle: Demolition Derby Driver

Nick VinZant 0:12

Welcome to Profoundly Pointless. My name is Nick VinZant Coming up in this episode, go behind the wheel for some demolition. And then we'll count down the top five, very scary, but also very real places,

Bekkah Doyle 0:28

it's dangerous and stupid. At the same time, it is very much staring down your worst fear, you can literally feel the energy of the hit, come through your body. It is like a freight train that just goes through you. I've had cars where I'm like, I really suck. And then on the other side, I have driven a few Toyota Camrys that are just indestructible.

Nick VinZant 0:55

I want to thank you so much for joining us. If you get a chance, subscribe, leave us a rating or a review. If you're a new listener. Thanks for checking out the show. If you're a longtime listener, thanks for spending your time with us. I want to get right to our first guest. She's a demolition derby driver, Our Lady of destruction herself, Becca Doyle. How did you get into this?

Bekkah Doyle 1:20

Um, well, I went to my first demolition derby I think I was like five years old. My mom took me every year our account, like most county fairs have them. And I always was like, Oh, that's really fun. I could do that. But then in 2019, I actually had a real life car accident had pretty weak significant physical injuries. But I mostly had really bad PTSD in cars, like I was really nervous about having a another car accident. So once I got like, medically cleared to do whatever I felt like risking. I just I was just gonna go for it. And either it was gonna help me not be so uncomfortable and fearful in cars, or it was going to confirm my fears. But I wanted to just give it a try.

Nick VinZant 2:14

So I did it makes total sense and kind of makes no sense at the same time, right? I don't mean that to be offensive, but like, Okay, I go for it, right?

Bekkah Doyle 2:25

It's dangerous and stupid. At the same time, it is very much staring down your worst fear. But I decided to go for it. Because realistically for PTSD, your only option and fears are to be medicated for it and kind of live in a fog or overcome it as best you can.

Nick VinZant 2:48

Does it seem to have worked so far?

Bekkah Doyle 2:50

Yeah, I actually am really comfortable in cars. comfortable in the derby cars comfortable on my daily driver, I really only now get nervous in like traffic like stop and go traffic when I can't account for what the other driver is going to do. Or that's really when I get nervous. But it's not entirely eliminated that fear but drastically improved it. And each time I do it, I get more and more comfortable. It's a confidence thing. I feel a lot more confident that I know I can react to someone else. Very quickly.

Nick VinZant 3:29

I think that everybody is familiar with the basic idea of a demolition derby but what's kind of like what's happening.

Bekkah Doyle 3:36

So at demolition derby, you can start from different positions. Like if the cars are next to each other or back to back, the traditional one would be you have like a box on each side of the box is lines of cars, like trunks to trunks, you start straight back and RAM. And then from there, you drive hitting into each other until one car is running. You really want to hit with the rear end of your car to prevent any damage to your front end because again, you want to be the last car that's driving. So you really have to be good at driving in reverse. But there are no mirrors or anything to help you go in reverse so you are physically turning all the way around to look out the back of the car while driving it in the mud. Usually,

Nick VinZant 4:26

you're trying to drive in reverse the whole time. Yeah,

Bekkah Doyle 4:30

as much as possible. I only will drive forwards if I am like relocating within that box to get somewhere else. Or as you start destroying your car. Sometimes you lose gears or you can't go in reverse. Or it's like the end and you're trying to beat someone then I'll switch to driving forwards. But the majority of the time you are trying to drive in reverse as much as you can.

Nick VinZant 4:57

So like is there a generally kind of accept Did strategy to it besides just driving in reverse? Or do you have your own strategy or kind of like you go into a race, what's the game plan,

Bekkah Doyle 5:09

I will usually try to come off that start line as fast as possible to hit the car behind me before they realize I've done it, but also then pull out as fast as possible, get my front end in like a corner of the box. And then start work lines backwards, like as much as I can until there's much less cars left, because usually, in the beginning of derbies people are really, they're amped up, they're nervous, they're ready to go. And they kind of take themselves out by not being smart. So I tried to be smart and calm for the first chunk, let them kind of weed themselves out. And then I will adjust to more aggressive driving of like, you know, chasing people down in reverse moving a lot further around the box and stuff like that. But a lower car count is actually harder than a high car count. Because of the high car count. There's lots of things to hit. With only six cars in the box, you're chasing people and being chased. So you had to be really quick to react because with a lot of cars, you can kind of flop something you do have a time limit depends on the event that you either have one minute or two minutes that you have to be hitting something. So you can't be playing dead or, you know, avoiding people you have to be making contact every one to two minutes or you're ruled out. I honestly can't even tell you in the car. How long one minute or two minutes is it all feels like an eternity so I just hit whatever I can until I can't. It's

Nick VinZant 6:38

a good strategy. So what are the like what makes somebody a good demolition derby driver,

Bekkah Doyle 6:46

you have to have grit. You have to get in the car. These aren't luxury racecars. They're, they're out of junkyards and they're filthy, and they have lots of things wrong with them, you know, you're not going to buy a really nice car to destroy, you're gonna get it as cheap as you can. You're in the mud, it's dirty. But to be successful, you have to be calm in the car, you can't be freaking out. There's lots of things to react to lots of things that you can't expect or predict. So you have to be able to maintain your composure while things are seemingly out of control. And then also being able to be logical and multitask. So while I am driving, I am doing a lot of things in my head. I'm listening to the car to hear if it sounds funny if maybe I have damage. I'm looking at the smoke to see if my radiator smoking I'm looking at smells, I'm usually looking in a completely opposite direction of where I'm going to see where I want to go. As I keep my head on a swivel, because a hit can come from anywhere around me. I don't want to be hit. But I want to hit something. So you're kind of like an owl just looking around you at all times. And then on top of that, I have to watch the track officials for if there's any red flags or Black Flag, anything at all, I there's no race receivers in these cars, you are very much alone by yourself. So I have to be watching them on top of doing all of that, to make sure I follow the track orders.

Nick VinZant 8:19

Well was that first race like?

Bekkah Doyle 8:22

My first one actually wasn't great. I did a women's division in Chino. And I think I drove for like three minutes before my car just had random electrical failure from a radio getting hit out. Luckily, two weeks later, I was doing another derby. And it was my hometown derby. So it was the one that really meant the most for me. So I usually say that that's like my first real Derby gig came really full circle. It was the one I went to when I was five years old. My mom was there. It's that derby is actually only maybe three miles from where I actually had my car accident, like it's all very tightly knit together, like the cycle really was completed. And that one I was the only woman driving, which was really cool for me in my own hometown to get to have that experience to be the one representing for little girls. When I was a little girl going to those events. I never saw a woman in them. So getting to be that representation as an adult was really really cool. It was a big car derby. I usually drive compact derbies now. So it was a full sized Crown Vic in the mud avatar raceway. It was really fun. And from then I've been addicted.

Unknown Speaker 9:41

What do you get the cars? I work

Bekkah Doyle 9:43

with a guy who he owns his own like junkyard and he gets cars that have been impounded or a really good deal and he builds them. He's very established in the Southern California demolition derby world. He drives demolition derbies and has for a long time I'm So he will build them for us. And then we give them back to him because he can put it out or put it into another car. And it's like a rental almost a lot of people will buy their own cars and build them. But for me, this has been an easier option because cars are quite expensive right now.

Nick VinZant 10:17

Like if it's your your average demolition derby car, like, what does it cost to get it going? To buy it all that stuff? Right? Like? Yeah, so get it to the derby floor? What do you what's that going to cost you?

Bekkah Doyle 10:31

It depends on what type of car and then wait, what type of Derby if you're doing a bone stock Derby, which is called chaining bang, where they chain the car shut, and then literally bang, you can get a pre ran car, sometimes in the like, three to $400 range when that's been already crashed, but it's still drivable, it still works, it just might not have the best steering or might have some kind of odd hiccup to it. Fresh cars in the compacts can usually be like 900 to $1,000 if you want like a fresh, fresh one. The big cars are where they become really expensive, like Crown Victorias are ideal for Derby driving. People also just love them in general. So they're pretty expensive. They're in the couple of $1,000 range. And then there's even a layer of demolition derbies where they are, they're like, fully built race cars in the $10,000 ranges where they have. They're reinforced with steel, and they have high power engines and all of this fancy stuff because they're intended to drive more than once. And then the really big derbies where you have like heat races, and then a main event. So they can get quite expensive. And it can also be quite cheap, just depending on where you end

Nick VinZant 11:53

up. How do you then recoup those costs?

Bekkah Doyle 11:56

When are you just like,

Nick VinZant 11:58

this is the cost of doing business. And this is what I like to do. Yeah, it's,

Bekkah Doyle 12:01

it's a bit of both you a lot of people are sponsored and have sponsors who work with local companies. A lot of the times, I will instead of a traditional sponsor, if I'm doing some type of special car, or event also spots on my car for people like I did a charity Derby for breast cancer. So I sold spots on my car where you could honor people with their names instead of a traditional sponsor of like a company. Sometimes I'll sell spots on my rear bumper for people you don't like, you want to put their name to get crushed. And then I work with some traditional sponsors as well where they can put their logos on the car and stuff like that. But the best way to get your money back is

Nick VinZant 12:44

to win. Cow much money we usually talk at first place

Bekkah Doyle 12:47

is usually for the compact cars roughly like $1,000. It can depend on how big the car count is, you know, the more cars the more money. So it's usually about 1500 to 1000 for first place, second places like 500, and then so on. And you can also win additional money for like the Mad Dog Award, which is it's usually like a combination of crowd favorite and most aggressive. So if you get that award, it's usually an additional PR on top of that.

Nick VinZant 13:20

Is it hard to find people to do it? Like how many people are usually involved in the like the demolition derby scene? Is this a popular thing becoming less popular, just steady?

Bekkah Doyle 13:33

I would say steady. There's always new faces always new people wanting to give it a try. Maybe less women than there are men giving it a try. But you'll always see kind of the usual suspects at the same events. Everyone's it's kind of like a family. You know, we're all hitting each other out there. But everyone knows each other everybody's friends. I'm part of a group called the damsels of destruction. They drive female only derbies together

Nick VinZant 14:03

for the people that kind of, you know, come and go right because I can imagine a lot of people's like, I'm gonna drive in one of these one of these days. Do they usually get hooked really like I'm not doing that again.

Bekkah Doyle 14:14

It's a 5050 split. I have seen some people where it's their first time and they make it pretty far to derby. And they're like that was the coolest thing I've ever done in my life. And I've also seen people intentionally park their cars and say I don't want to, I don't want to go any further. I've done you'll know instantly if you like it or don't like it.

Nick VinZant 14:34

Does anybody ever quit though before they get hit? Like Oh, no. Nevermind,

Bekkah Doyle 14:40

no, it usually is that first hit. That will be the deciding factor for people because you have to come off the starting line. Anyways, you gotta go somewhere, someone's gonna come at you because you're usually lined up across from someone. So if you're sitting there, I'm going to come hit you even harder because you're not moving and I've traveled a lot further by Usually after that first bump, people know either like, I'm really scared, and I don't want to do this anymore. Or though like that was really fun. I want to keep hitting things. How fast

Nick VinZant 15:10

are you usually going when you hit somebody?

Bekkah Doyle 15:15

It depends how fast they can get going. If the box is really small and narrow and muddy, my speed is pretty limited. If it's dustier and a big box, I can carry some good speed. My speedometer is never work. So it's all honestly, by feel maybe like, up there would be 1520 miles an hour, as you're trying to, like zip around the box to get to safety. If I'm trying to relocate within the box, like from corner to corner, or make a lap to see what's going on, I will drive as fast as that car will let me because I'm much harder to hit if I'm moving at a high rate of speed.

Nick VinZant 15:54

It seems like it should be really easy to hit somebody but then what do you think about a moving target? It's actually probably I would imagine, it's more complicated than you would think it's really

Bekkah Doyle 16:05

hard to because you have a helmet on a huge helmet, you can only see about this much, because the rest of your head is protected. You are physically turning around in the seat to look out where your rear window used to be. Now it's just a whole more you're looking over your shoulder out, you're like rear windows. But the thing that makes it really hard on top of all of that, because there's no mirrors, as you are hitting your trunk is going upward. It folds upward and in so it's getting taller and taller and taller. So at a certain point, it's really hard to see over that as well. It becomes very obstructed there.

Nick VinZant 16:48

I never thought and you don't want to hit people with the front of your car because that's where the engine is, I'm assuming,

Bekkah Doyle 16:52

right? Right. If you are going to hit someone, you would want to hit them as dead on as possible. But you run the risk of killing your own car. So the rear end is your best bet as long as possible. I want to hit somebody's front end where their radiator is with my rear end or their axles and pump their tires. Those would be the three, like kill shots that I would want to take. But I want to do all of that as much as possible with my rear end.

Nick VinZant 17:19

Like how many hits can the average car take?

Bekkah Doyle 17:22

You know, I've had cars where I was shocked that they were still moving the car I drove in Orange County, I I did a head on hit with someone expecting that to be like, okay, yeah, we're hitting head on this gonna kill my car and the car kept driving. Sometimes the stupid things can kill your car, though, like electrical things just get knocked loose, or all of a sudden your tire came off. And now you're just on rim and you're sinking in the mud with nowhere to go. It's honestly how you react to the damage you take will determine how long your car can survive. So if like again, like I said earlier, I'm calculating in my head what's going on. If I see white smoke, I know my radiator has seven minutes before it's just done out. So drive smart, don't speed up that process. If I can tell him losing gears or anything like that. Don't be really hard on the engine, try to make it last as long as possible. So that's what makes you the good Derby drivers reacting to what your car is doing to make it last longer. But it really could be the stupidest things kill your Carson.

Nick VinZant 18:32

Are you surprised at how durable most cars are? Or it how fragile most cars are?

Bekkah Doyle 18:39

Both. I've had cars where I'm like, I really suck. Like I drove it. I think it was a Chevy Cavalier and I snapped my own wheel off in a red era in the mud just like nobody even hit me. I snapped it off. And then on the other side, I have driven a few Toyota Camrys that are just indestructible. Like you can't kill a Toyota Camry if you wanted to.

Nick VinZant 19:05

Are you ready for some harder slash listener submitted questions? Yes. worst place to crash into somebody best place to crash into somebody.

Bekkah Doyle 19:15

It is against the rules that hit somebody in the driver's door. So that would be the worst place because you will be kicked out of the derby. You'll also probably get yourself in a nice fight in the pits later. There's not much in the driver's door there's one steel beam and however much padding the driver personally decides to put and that's all the protection you have between you and a car hitting you. The best hit would be a dead on hit to the radiator or snapping someone's axle. If you get their axle they're not going anywhere.

Nick VinZant 19:46

Where's the axle?

Unknown Speaker 19:47

Remind them we'll see axle is on a cart so

Bekkah Doyle 19:51

front wheels rear wheels that they paint lines on your front tires like an X or one line through. If I hit someone's driver's door in the wheels are spinning. I was on the gas. And they No, I did it intentionally. If they're not spinning, if that line isn't spinning, I was on the brakes and it wasn't intentionally trying to hit the driver's door. It just happened. So sometimes there's a little bit of overlap, but you try his best to not do that. Yeah,

Nick VinZant 20:19

I could see, I would imagine that people like I you can tell if that was an accident or not.

Bekkah Doyle 20:23

Yeah, undeniable. If somebody meant to hit you, you're, you're gonna know.

Nick VinZant 20:29

Hardest crash that you have ever been in.

Bekkah Doyle 20:33

Two weeks ago, I took a hit that knocked me out of the seat until the floor of the car. That one was pretty bad. I'd say that was the worst. I've I've been hit out of the seat twice.

Nick VinZant 20:42

It's weird. Like for people who've never been in a car accident. Like, you don't realize how hard it is?

Bekkah Doyle 20:49

Yeah. You don't realize you feel it? Like he goes through your body.

Nick VinZant 20:56

That's exactly how you obviously know better than I do. Right. But that's exactly how I describe it. Like it goes through you, like shakes you to the to the core.

Bekkah Doyle 21:05

Yeah, I would say that is the one time yeah, you can literally feel the energy of the hit, come through your body. It is like a freight train that just goes through you. So

Nick VinZant 21:19

then the people get to a point where like, oh, I can't do this anymore. I like it. But I just my body can't handle it.

Bekkah Doyle 21:27

Yeah, it's it's a tough realization that I think everyone who does this sport will have to at one point or another, decide when it's time to not do it. A lot of people get injured and keep going because they love it so much. But naturally, we will all hit a certain age where it's just, it's really risky. It is really risky. A lot of these cars, they're not set up like a traditional race car, you know, we're not strapped in with special harnesses and Homs devices, a lot of the time we're just wearing the original stock lap seatbelt, or the original seatbelt, but like my arm is over, it's under my shoulder so that I can turn around. So the safety inside the cars is quite minimal.

Nick VinZant 22:18

Is there any kind of a thing in which like, alright, so because of how hard it is on your body, people know I got 20 races, I got 50 races, I got 100 races,

Bekkah Doyle 22:29

I think it'd be it gets to a point where instead of doing like, like I did five of them between mid July and last weekend. Instead of it being like, Oh, I'm not going to do them anymore, you'll start cutting down to I'm going to do one this year, or I'll do two or I'm going to do one in the summer and one in the fall and really spread them out to give my body a chance to heal. Most Derby drivers, you will have to force them out of that driver's seat before they ever make the decision to not do it anymore. It really is. It's kind of like an addicting drug. Which once you really get into it and you're it's a lot of adrenaline that you you can't find doing probably almost anything else but drugs. So they'll all get that itch of like I want to be in the car like it does suck watching other people be in the car. You want to be in the car.

Nick VinZant 23:22

Yeah, I would imagine you you're all of your senses are kind of tuned in Right? Like there's a certain amount of rush to it.

Bekkah Doyle 23:29

Yes, the adrenaline when you get out of a car is really high half the time you don't even realize if you have an injury because you're just ramped up and then the next day who Oh sore.

Nick VinZant 23:41

Where is like, where is the big demolition derby like, some day, I'm going to drive there like every driver wants to be at this one.

Bekkah Doyle 23:51

Um, the biggest one in the country. I think it's in Ohio. It's called Blizzard bash, and that that one's pretty big. But for California, Chino, the Chino challenge is really big. I drive in the women's division in it already. But their unlimited division with the big, fully welded $10,000 Derby cars is kind of like the goal of where you would want to go if you want to keep going up the sport. But that's really expensive. But that one's a really big derby. It sells out every year the crowds really wild. It's just like a really great time. Can

Nick VinZant 24:33

you Can anybody have this as a full time living?

Bekkah Doyle 24:40

If you worked really hard at it, like really hard at it, but you couldn't live off of it. You're kind of unless you had really big sponsors that just threw too much money at you. You'll never be able to win enough money to like buy a house or anything. Most of the car ours, you can run twice, three times if you're lucky. So you're continually buying a new car each event. So I wouldn't want to make a living doing off of it. I work a full time job so I can do this for fun and not have to worry about, oh, if I don't win, I can't race anymore. And it takes that pressure off.

Nick VinZant 25:20

Best demolition derby car, worst demolition derby car.

Bekkah Doyle 25:25

I really like Toyota Camrys, especially like the late 90s ones are like nice and big and boxy. And if you look up their crash safety ratings are really high. I look up that sometimes out of curiosity just to see. And they're just like tanks and mean people still drive them as daily drivers so they can really go the distance. The worst one is that other than that Chevy, that snapped its own wheel up. I drove an Oldsmobile Alero. And it had no power steering. I did get second place in that car with no power steering. But it wasn't the most comfortable car to drive. That's the one I got hit out of my seat into.

Nick VinZant 26:09

Are there any cars that are like the phrase I always think of is like a glass cannon? Right? Where like this car is great for hitting people. But if you get hit you're in? Like I guess. Is there a car like that? Or are there any kind of cars like oh, you want to get one of these? These these? And don't get one of these, these these?

Bekkah Doyle 26:29

I mean, there's probably a lot of compacts. I wouldn't want to get in just because there's not much in the back like a hatchback. Right? There's no trunk. So you're hitting right at your own wheels. There's not much to it. I would probably prefer not to get in one of those. Anything that's really like newer cars that are mostly made out of plastic and not the metal. I would want to skip Nissan's do well. Camrys do well. I've never driven a Ford other than the Crown Victoria. That car did really well. It had a lot of run and damage early on. But it still wasn't in the winner's circle at the end it kept running even with all of that front end damage. Any of the like early 2000s, late 90s cars, I would say in that time rain is perfect. They're like really metal, really dense. well taken care of if possible. I probably wouldn't want to do it in a Pinto. That doesn't sound fun.

Nick VinZant 27:32

Is there any trash talk during the derby? Like are you yelling at other drivers?

Bekkah Doyle 27:37

Yeah, a lot of people. I have a neon pink helmet. So you can see my head usually bobbing around in the car. It normally not trash talking because everyone at least is this little circle in Southern California like knows each other. We're all friends in one way or another. So it's usually like waving at each other laughing at each other kind of like you know if we're under a red flag, and we don't know why we're like asking each other through the windows like what's going on. You'll see people signaling like this, if they're in a final two and they want to do a head on it instead of trying to battle it out and drag it out. I've thrown my face shield up at someone out of frustration. That's probably the most trash talky thing. But usually it's fun. Everyone's just kind of like talking to their friends. So the drivers window.

Nick VinZant 28:34

I don't know if this is going to be a great question. Or a question that I shouldn't really ask you.

Unknown Speaker 28:40

But

Nick VinZant 28:44

have, have you ever been surprised by a bodily function that occurred after being hit? I think that they mean to like if you ever like do people pee themselves or poop themselves know in the middle of a demolition?

Bekkah Doyle 29:01

Or they don't admit it. If they do. I've never heard of anyone doing it. I personally, all day I don't eat. I eat like a banana water, Gatorade, Red Bull, because I don't want to get carsick in the car. I personally haven't gotten carsick. I don't want to throw up in my helmet. I do know someone who's gotten sick in their helmet just from actually overheating. It's really hot in those cars and we have fire suits on and helmets and engines are kicking up a lot of heat and you're out of breath and you're huffing and puffing because it takes a lot of muscle and there's a lot of adrenaline so she just overheated and threw up in her helmet. That's my worst nightmare. I don't want to throw up in my helmet it is in your face. So I try to eat as little as possible. Drink enough to be hydrated but not have to pee my pants. If somebody were to hit me hard enough. I could see how if you got hit just the right combination of an Fortunately, events that something like that could happen

Nick VinZant 30:04

is a great way of putting it. Just the right combination of unfortunate events. Um, has, has it ever made you though want to run people off the road? During regular driving? Like, do you ever find yourself like, wait a minute, not in the derby here?

Bekkah Doyle 30:22

It doesn't it doesn't. It really highlights when I am swerving or reacting to someone's bad driving. You know, like they're texting or they're not paying attention. And then like, you shouldn't be driving that bad. But I never feel like well, I just want to ram this car. It's usually out of my system. Well out of my system,

Nick VinZant 30:45

is there like a Michael Jordan, or LeBron James or like, who is there somebody that like that's the best demolition derby that anybody's ever seen.

Bekkah Doyle 30:57

That's hard. I think the drivers who go to Blizzard bash are probably the most comparable in that sense. They're like the big boys. They spent a lot of money a lot, a lot, a lot of money. People watch Blizzard bash on TV. But a lot of derbies are more like grassroots in your local community, or, you know, they're a lot of them are at county fair. So it's like people who live within that region. So a lot of people will know, like local drivers. The guy who builds my cars, Dan Pachala, he's won a lot, like a lot. He's very, very, very, very well known in this world. The dams of obstructions are really, really well known. Anyone who you kind of see on the podium repetitively, or you can recognize their number or their driving style, like I always paint my cars, the same design so that people can build that car recognition of like, oh, that's Becca, that's her car, big Betty 1313, you know, but it's more on a local scale than how like the NBA is like that guy's from LA but everyone. It's more of within your community, who's who and even more on a granular level, it's more of the drivers know who, that's my biggest competition. That's where I gotta take out first. That's why I gotta look out for the crowd just wants us to hit each other as hard as we can.

Nick VinZant 32:31

Oh, is there a type of race that like is, that's the most extreme or the most risky, like this type of race.

Bekkah Doyle 32:40

I mean, they're all risky, honestly, especially with the limited safety protocols that you have to follow. The big cars are pretty dangerous because they're big, and they carry a lot of weight and they can hit you, the Weldon one rollover quite a bit, because their suspension is welded, so it's quite rigid, they kind of hit each other and bounce. So it's easy for them to roll, but they all kind of have the same level of risk. You know, even in the small cars while it's a smaller car, there's less Carter protect you. So that's almost equally as risky if you're to take a really nasty it. And there's always the risk of fire to all cars have that risk.

Nick VinZant 33:25

Yeah, that would be the one thing that I'd be like, Ooh, I don't want to mess with that. Yeah,

Bekkah Doyle 33:29

I've been on fire twice.

Nick VinZant 33:31

What do you just get out as fast as you possibly Well, the doors are welded. So what do you

Bekkah Doyle 33:35

if it's bad, what do you do? There's firemen around the box, waiting to come rescue you. Usually they'll get to you before you can get out. If it's bad enough. A lot of the time the fires just like a little flare up, they put you out you keep going. The first time it was in my rear end, and I could smell it. But it didn't know it was me. And they couldn't see it from the outside. So I just kept driving. The second time it was at the end of the event, a car caught my car on fire. They just quickly extinguished us while sitting in the car. So like before I had processed, I'm on fire. They were there to put it out. But we have fire gear. Yeah. You don't have to wear it. That's the thing. You can wear either long sleeves, long pants, or a fire suit. But we also have fire extinguishers in the cars with us.

Nick VinZant 34:27

So nobody's ever, like burned alive in water or anything like that.

Bekkah Doyle 34:31

No, no, not to my knowledge, but I've seen some cars fully burned, but the person got out

Nick VinZant 34:38

for people who maybe are interested in finding out more about demolition derby is more about finding out about you. Where can they find you?

Bekkah Doyle 34:45

I have an Instagram it's at being Becca ve KKH I encourage anyone who wants to get involved especially any female drivers reach out to me I love to help people get involved. I very much Emily in the past isn't where I am because somebody helped me took me under their wings. Most of the events are done for this year. Next year, usually July, there's Chino, there's a week long demolition derby event at the OC Fair, where every night there's different types of Derby. So usually in like, July and October, and those months in between, you'll see a lot of events in Southern California. fair season is when you see a lot of them.